RIPPA Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 Supposedly Carmella has been taping Total Divas stuff so that might explain some recent things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 Titus O'Neil's Ted Talk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Spoiler: it's just 20 minutes of URAHURAHURAH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Was there anything in the sheets around mania 12 about warrior-hhh? In the hhh story warrior changed the finish last second and was unprofessional. As warriors rep was so lousy it sounds totally believable. But at the time trips was just a featured midcarder and this was warrior returning after 4 years. Arguably his return was the biggest match on the show. There was no build up to the match and no one would have expected the match to be anything but a squash. So I don't necessarily buy the idea that the match was going to be much different than what we saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, JohnnyJ said: Was there anything in the sheets around mania 12 about warrior-hhh? In the hhh story warrior changed the finish last second and was unprofessional. As warriors rep was so lousy it sounds totally believable. But at the time trips was just a featured midcarder and this was warrior returning after 4 years. Arguably his return was the biggest match on the show. There was no build up to the match and no one would have expected the match to be anything but a squash. So I don't necessarily buy the idea that the match was going to be much different than what we saw. This is what Dave wrote a couple of weeks after Quote The original plan for the Ultimate Warrior-Helmsley match was to be more competitive but Warrior reportedly vehemently refused to do anything that would help Helmsley. But I could also see Dave's source being HHH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, RIPPA said: Titus O'Neil's Ted Talk It's a TEDx talk, which is different than a TED talk - TEDx are independently-run events that, frankly, don't have a lot of requirements to be able to speak. It's like the difference between running the NWA under Crockett and running the NWA under Joe Blow's tiny promotion. It's cool that Titus did one, but it comes down to "find someone doing a TEDx event, and ask them to speak there." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 32 minutes ago, RIPPA said: This is what Dave wrote a couple of weeks after But I could also see Dave's source being HHH I think in this case we don't have to look for conspiracies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 13 hours ago, mattdangerously said: True, but dating Steph certainly didn't hurt. Actually, it probably did. Based on their WM entrances, they're into some kinky shit. I wonder what their safe-word is? Macho 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Re: Ziggler on @Midnight, crossposted from the TV thread Quote Hey, guess what? Dolph Ziggler is horrible. Hardwick casted down to his level AND kept him on instead of giving him the red light because he's a nice guy. We should all be so positive, but... naw, fuck that. That episode was awful and he was awful. Yuck. EDIT: In stark contrast the Monday ep with the Ru Paul's Drag Race queens CRUSHED it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 There isn't anything about Dolph that isn't terrible right now. He stopped trying to have good matches months ago. As shitty as his "show-off" character could be, at least he seemed to give a shit back then. His hair sucks, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, mattdangerously said: There isn't anything about Dolph that isn't terrible right now. He stopped trying to have good matches months ago. As shitty as his "show-off" character could be, at least he seemed to give a shit back then. His hair sucks, too. But to be fair if you were him would you give a shit at this point given all the stuff he's been through with the company? Guy has basically been told in giant neon letters "You are midcard for life and nothing you do will change that". He's reached the "pin me pay me" phase at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 It's not like midcard gatekeeper is a bad spot. Dolph's made lots of money, won some titles, been on TV for years. His lack of main event runs isn't entirely the company's fault. Some of it is on him, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Any spot is a bad spot if it's not a spot you're happy to be in. See: Punk, CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I don't blame Dolph for mailing it in, but that doesn't make him any more watchable these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Dolph is in a sub-prime situation but I also don't give him a pass to mail it in for that reason. WWE is paying him to do a job (sic) and to do it to the best of his ability, and he's not doing that. This on top of his apparent constant backstage complaining and it's no wonder WWE doesn't want to push him. It's a catch 22 but it's between two groups of people to change it: Dolph himself Vince, Stephanie and Triple H I think the path of least resistance is obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 3 hours ago, nate said: Macho To be fair, I don't think anyone ever gets over Macho Grande. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 Supposedly the WWE has added Brock Lesnar vs. Baron Corbin to the 7/29 Detroit house show... which is a Smackdown show Note that this will be the last show at the Joe Louis Arena so that could be why 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I watched the episode until they introduced the panel. As soon as they referred to Dolph as a comedian I turned it off. I might check it later, but it's going to be a rough one. if Dolph cared he should at least try to apply the advice that's been given to him countless times. He's got the tools but after all this time still doesn't know how to put it together properly. If he feels that defeated then might as well just let the contract run out and do something else....except for comedy. EDIT: I thought they had their last show at the Joe earlier this year. Didn't they advertise it as "Farewell to the Joe" with shirts and everything? It seems strange in that case to do that for a TV show knowing they have one more show there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I would think it'd be a good idea NOT to keep sacrificing their future top heels to the Brock Lesnar threshing machine, but WWE gave up on truly building for the future a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 This is why Dolph's situation won't improve unless the people running things change their mind on him...Look at Fandango, Tyler Breeze, Daniel Bryan, Heath Slater, and the Miz for just a sampling of wrestlers who were saddled with shitty gimmicks or shitty booking and they're all creative enough, intelligent enough, and talented enough to overcome it. And then look at Dolph. Dolph has been Dolph for way too long and the only changes to him have been a shitty hair metal look, a denim vest with shitty band patches from Hot Topic, and long tights instead of short ones. His stand up comedy game is straight garbage. He just doesn't have the wit or creativity to get him out of the spot he's in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 The other thing about Dolph is that he desperately wants to be recognized as a stand up comedian, but his material is awful and he's not even pleasant to be around. I've heard multiple comedians, men and women, refer to a wrestler trying to tell jokes or an unnamed sports guy trying to be a comedian and how said person sucks or this guy who used to be with Amy Schumer and now play fights for a living. Who else would they be talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said: EDIT: I thought they had their last show at the Joe earlier this year. Didn't they advertise it as "Farewell to the Joe" with shirts and everything? It seems strange in that case to do that for a TV show knowing they have one more show there. I am pretty sure it was marketing as last RAW or last PPV (whatever it was) instead of "last event" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I thought Dolph worked hard in the mitb match. He's just a guy who is stale and hit his ceiling. He also slowed down a bit. He's 36 now and can't take nutty bumps to the outside for our amusement anymore. That being said, his hair is awesome. I've give up a kidney to be that follicly gifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 34 minutes ago, Cristobal said: Any spot is a bad spot if it's not a spot you're happy to be in. See: Punk, CM. Then he should go work somewhere else. See: Rhodes, Cody 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I think the company was done with Dolph when he cashed in MITB and got the concussion. Which was not necessarily fair to him but its understandable. I've supported him since the start, but he has stopped trying. There are some guys who can go half speed and still be really good, Dolph is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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