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8 hours ago, JCM said:

India is a huge market for WWE and they have a tour coming up. Don't kid yourself as to why Jinder really won the belt.

If that is the new philosophy for attracting fans across the country, the next time the WWE goes to China Neville or Austin Aries should lose the Cruiserweight title to Ho Ho Lun the previous week

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14 minutes ago, hammerva said:

If that is the new philosophy for attracting fans across the country, the next time the WWE goes to China Neville or Austin Aries should lose the Cruiserweight title to Ho Ho Lun the previous week

I fully endorse WWE Universal Champion Leo Gao.

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Is the (groan) backlash against Jinder lessened at all if he doesn't have obvious signs of wellness issues? He's obviously not the first guy or the last guy to use AAS, but i'm having trouble recalling a "top star" dealing with some of the less aesthetically pleasing side effects in such an obvious way.

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1 hour ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

Is the (groan) backlash against Jinder lessened at all if he doesn't have obvious signs of wellness issues? 

First : Yes.  Jinder's World title push seems to have directly coincided with his "improved look".  If it's separated by time, or if the push had been more gradual, it wouldn't have been as bad, IMO.

1 hour ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

He's obviously not the first guy or the last guy to use AAS, but i'm having trouble recalling a "top star" dealing with some of the less aesthetically pleasing side effects in such an obvious way.

(What's AAS?   I haven't heard the term before and Google isn't helping, other than it being an enhancement cycle.)

The biggest one I can still remember is the Rock in early 1999 when he had the gynecomastia surgery and was wearing the track shirt for a few months - he had it on for the Rumble and SVDM PPVs, but ditched it at WrestleMania.  It actually wasn't the worst look ever, but I'm glad it didn't last long.

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11 minutes ago, Michael Sweetser said:

First : Yes.  Jinder's World title push seems to have directly coincided with his "improved look".  If it's separated by time, or if the push had been more gradual, it wouldn't have been as bad, IMO.

(What's AAS?   I haven't heard the term before and Google isn't helping, other than it being an enhancement cycle.)

The biggest one I can still remember is the Rock in early 1999 when he had the gynecomastia surgery and was wearing the track shirt for a few months - he had it on for the Rumble and SVDM PPVs, but ditched it at WrestleMania.  It actually wasn't the worst look ever, but I'm glad it didn't last long.

Good call, I completely spaced on that actually.

AAS just stands for androgenic anabolic steroids-- that's what we were supposed to refer to them as in school, and for some reason it's just stuck with me 

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4 minutes ago, Overly Critical Man said:

So everyone just exaggerated Randy Orton dangerously dropping two guys on their heads onto a table with release suplexes because we just hate him that much?

I think it's also that he dangerously dropped Gurv on the first one, then did even WORSE on the second one to Harv immediately after.  

(Sorry, I've known these guys for more than ten years, it's going to take a long time to not call them the Sihras. :))

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5 minutes ago, Overly Critical Man said:

So everyone just exaggerated Randy Orton dangerously dropping two guys on their heads onto a table with release suplexes because we just hate him that much?

And I thought the White House being filled with Russian spies was a crazy conspiracy theory.

Ken Anderson did something more safe than those suplexes and Orton got him fired, no?

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3 minutes ago, Infinit said:

Ken Anderson did something more safe than those suplexes and Orton got him fired, no?

Didn't Orton specifically tell him not to do a specific type of suplex because of his bad shoulders and Anderson did it anyway?  I remember it was something to that regard (and I think it was both Cena *and* Orton that demanded Anderson be fired, not just Orton)

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4 minutes ago, Michael Sweetser said:

Didn't Orton specifically tell him not to do a specific type of suplex because of his bad shoulders and Anderson did it anyway?  I remember it was something to that regard (and I think it was both Cena *and* Orton that demanded Anderson be fired, not just Orton)

Rings a bell to me.

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3 hours ago, hammerva said:

If that is the new philosophy for attracting fans across the country, the next time the WWE goes to China Neville or Austin Aries should lose the Cruiserweight title to Ho Ho Lun the previous week

That would probably make WWE a lot more money than what's going on right now on 205 Live.

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1 hour ago, Michael Sweetser said:

Didn't Orton specifically tell him not to do a specific type of suplex because of his bad shoulders and Anderson did it anyway?  I remember it was something to that regard (and I think it was both Cena *and* Orton that demanded Anderson be fired, not just Orton)

Someone already mentioned this earlier in thread. It was multiple screw ups adding up. The one with Orton was just the last. And it was supposedly Orton and several other main eventers who made the complaint. Cena was supposedly one of them. I think Taker might have been another.

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Fuck Randy Orton.

I think it is awesome that Jinder's finisher, Khallas, literally translated from standard Hindi means "finish" or "ending."

And damn.  I love the Usos, but I really was hoping that the book would put the tag straps on the Fashion Police. 

Missed opportunity...

Poor Baron Corbin...  I know that Sami desperately needed a big win but Holy Shit, Baron is what... 0 for the century in PPVs?

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14 minutes ago, Eivion said:

Someone already mentioned this earlier in thread. It was multiple screw ups adding up. The one with Orton was just the last. And it was supposedly Orton and several other main eventers who made the complaint. Cena was supposedly one of them. I think Taker might have been another.

I remember reading that Batista didn't really like working with Kennedy b/c he would always flail around whenever he went up for powerbombs and moves like that. Kennedy's reasoning was that it made it look more realistic b/c if you'd naturally try to fight out of moves like that but the counter argument is that it makes it harder for the guy who's doing the move to you to not drop you on your goddamn head b/c you're squirming around so much.

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Did anyone note that per JBL's comment immediately after the dress hit him, "The last time that happened to me I paid for it", and then when it was replayed again at the end of the match, "The last time that happened to me it was also a guy."?

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