MAY 2017 WRESTLING DISCUSSION.

[Craig H]

Carrot Top is a prop comic. I believe the comparison you're looking for there is Tommy Dreamer.

[Curt McGirt]

Does Stan Hansen = George Carlin in this whole comedy/wrestling comparison deal?

[Technico Support]

37 minutes ago, MORELOCK said:

This is some seriously elitist bullshit. No surprise that you're defending indy spotfest nonsense all over the board.

1) it was just a stupid analogy.  Fuck.

2) Are you saying there's not better wrestling out there than Randy's "20 minutes of chinlocks" style and, if there is, people shouldn't be seeking it out?  Should consumers of a given product not educate themselves to find anything better?  What about restaurants?  If I told you there was better food out there than McDonald's, is that elitist, too?

Holy shit, some people.

[Technico Support]

(double post)

[JonnyLaw]

41 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

2) Are you saying there's not better wrestling out there than Randy's "20 minutes of chinlocks" style and, if there is, people shouldn't be seeking it out?  Should consumers of a given product not educate themselves to find anything better?  What about restaurants?  If I told you there was better food out there than McDonald's, is that elitist, too?

If you couched people who went to McDonald's as "people who don't know enough to want anything more out of their food", then yeah.

Also, "better wrestling" is subjective. 

[Nice Guy Eddie]

To keep the comedy/wrestling discussion going, who would be the Denis Leary, stealing his act from a lesser known, more skilled wrestler and using it to become bigger than his predecessor? Would it even apply since everything in wrestling seems to be borrowed from something before it?

[MADCAP]

So are we calling Rip Rogers a bad worker?  Is this the thing now, that when vets voice their opinion on how the industry that gave them careers and fame, has changed drastically and they're sad/upset about it, is to tell them they're out of touch and don't know what what is really good???

I think it's time for me to migrate over to the Big Kids Table(PWO).  I mean, most of y'all that post in the music forum regale old-school music, so it sounds silly when you gripe about old vets speaking up about not feeling today's product. 

[Kevin Wilson]

1 minute ago, MADCAP said:

So are we calling Rip Rogers a bad worker?  Is this the thing now, that when vets voice their opinion on how the industry that gave them careers and fame, has changed drastically and they're sad/upset about it, is to tell them they're out of touch and don't know what what is really good???

I think it's time for me to migrate over to the Big Kids Table(PWO).  I mean, most of y'all that post in the music forum regale old-school music, so it sounds silly when you gripe about old vets speaking up about not feeling today's product. 

I love when people get all angsty about DVDVR, as if they do doing us a favor by posting here. The issue was that Rip was being an asshole, not that he doesn't like today's style of wrestling. If I don't like dinner your wife cooked but instead of excusing myself I throw the food at her and tell her how much better my wife cooks, I think people would agree I went over the line. If you support him using a picture of Jimmy Savile to mock wrestlers, then I think that says more about you than other posters.

[Raziel]

10 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

To keep the comedy/wrestling discussion going, who would be the Denis Leary, stealing his act from a lesser known, more skilled wrestler and using it to become bigger than his predecessor? Would it even apply since everything in wrestling seems to be borrowed from something before it?

CM Punk?

[Lacelle]

15 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

To keep the comedy/wrestling discussion going, who would be the Denis Leary, stealing his act from a lesser known, more skilled wrestler and using it to become bigger than his predecessor? Would it even apply since everything in wrestling seems to be borrowed from something before it?

Rico.

[MADCAP]

5 minutes ago, Kevin Wilson said:

I love when people get all angsty about DVDVR, as if they do doing us a favor by posting here. The issue was that Rip was being an asshole, not that he doesn't like today's style of wrestling. If I don't like dinner your wife cooked but instead of excusing myself I throw the food at her and tell her how much better my wife cooks, I think people would agree I went over the line. If you support him using a picture of Jimmy Savile to mock wrestlers, then I think that says more about you than other posters.

Rip is a known loudmouth. Why people took that tweet and ran with it, I'll never know. 

 

[Matt D]

5 hours ago, RIPPA said:

This is an embarrassingly written article but basically - the WWE (because of NBC Universal) will be using more of the picture in picture during commercial breaks

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/advertising-and-marketing/nbcu-looks-pin-down-viewers-during-wwe-smackdown-breaks/165809

 

The other interesting thing in there is that WWE Network is the biggest advertiser on Smackdown apparently.

[JohnnyJ]

Should we have a pool on how long Orton can work a chinlock during a commercial break?

[SorceressKnight]

48 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

To keep the comedy/wrestling discussion going, who would be the Denis Leary, stealing his act from a lesser known, more skilled wrestler and using it to become bigger than his predecessor? Would it even apply since everything in wrestling seems to be borrowed from something before it?

Ric Flair seems to be the most undisputable of them there.

[sabremike]

I think the biggest thing about wrestling is something (ironically) Cornette once said: "Wrestling isn't like a geography test where if you know where Brazil is you pass". People here love shitting on the Young Bucks or others like them but the fact is that they make a nice living and are constantly booked. So a decent amount of people must enjoy what they do. What I'm saying is there isn't only one way to successfully do pro wrestling.

[MORELOCK]

1 hour ago, Technico Support said:

1) it was just a stupid analogy.  Fuck.

2) Are you saying there's not better wrestling out there than Randy's "20 minutes of chinlocks" style and, if there is, people shouldn't be seeking it out?  Should consumers of a given product not educate themselves to find anything better?  What about restaurants?  If I told you there was better food out there than McDonald's, is that elitist, too?

Holy shit, some people.

Oh, I know the analogy was stupid. The restaurant one is too. I agree that there's better wrestlers out there than Orton, it's just that I don't think the indy flip scene contains any of them and indicating that the Young Bucks and their ilk are factually better than Orton and that everyone who disagrees must be some kind of simpleton is, yes, elitist.

[RRR]

The may wrestling thread summed up so far. 

[Matt D]

1 hour ago, sabremike said:

I think the biggest thing about wrestling is something (ironically) Cornette once said: "Wrestling isn't like a geography test where if you know where Brazil is you pass". People here love shitting on the Young Bucks or others like them but the fact is that they make a nice living and are constantly booked. So a decent amount of people must enjoy what they do. What I'm saying is there isn't only one way to successfully do pro wrestling.

Sure, but you can still criticize art. Both things can be true.

[odessasteps]

Nothing wrong with saying "x is talented/well-made, but not for me." 

These days, I only watch LUCHA and old stuff, but I know there are good/great workers in Japan or wwf or the super Indys. I just don't care (generally speaking).

[piranesi]

5 hours ago, Technico Support said:

Wouldn't Orton actually be the Gallagher of wrestling?  Walk in, do the same stale, boring act in front of fans who don't know enough to want anything more out of the show, get paid and leave, never putting forth any effort to better your game because who gives a shit? 

Gallagher went away eventually.

[The Iron Yuppie]

10 minutes ago, piranesi said:

Gallagher went away eventually.

Nah, he does a really racist set now, flips out on interviewers and performs at the Gathering of the Juggalos. This article's a bit old, but still entertaining. 

http://www.avclub.com/article/gallagher-36622 

Bitter act from the '80s? Definitely Honky Tonk Man. 

[Peck]

4 hours ago, Peck said:

Word circulating on social media that Doug Somers has passed away.

Meltz has confirmed.

http://www.f4wonline.com/other-wrestling/pretty-boy-doug-somers-passes-away-65-years-old-235651

[nate]

3 hours ago, Technico Support said:

1) it was just a stupid analogy.  Fuck.

2) Are you saying there's not better wrestling out there than Randy's "20 minutes of chinlocks" style and, if there is, people shouldn't be seeking it out?  Should consumers of a given product not educate themselves to find anything better?  What about restaurants?  If I told you there was better food out there than McDonald's, is that elitist, too?

Holy shit, some people.

I find the "Block User" option is pretty fucking awesome.  Works for me, when elitists are accusing others of being elitists.  Sometimes makes threads shorter and more pleasant to read.

I look at Randy Orton through the glass of an ice cream analogy I read on Wrestlecrap: There's all kinds of ice cream out there, from rocky road to butter pecan to cookie dough.  With all those options, vanilla ice cream still exists for those people who just like eating shitty ice cream.

Randy Orton is shitty ice cream.

[piranesi]

49 minutes ago, The Iron Yuppie said:

Nah, he does a really racist set now, flips out on interviewers and performs at the Gathering of the Juggalos. This article's a bit old, but still entertaining. 

http://www.avclub.com/article/gallagher-36622 

Bitter act from the '80s? Definitely Honky Tonk Man. 

Amazing.

 

Who said it: Gallagher or Abe Simpson?

1) I don't ride side-saddle. I'm as straight as a submarine.

2) Well, I don’t think Katie Couric should have been the anchorperson for the news.

3) We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways.

4) and then of course President Clinton ruined oral sex.

5) The metric system is the tool of the devil.

6) and they also don’t pay attention to what they’re wearing or how they’re standing.

7) The only real leader in America was David Stern.

8) There’s no vaudeville. Show business isn’t organized.

9) But that's America for you!

10) It'll be a cold day in hell before I recognize Missouri!

11) Detroit is drunken idiots.

 

[Wyld Samurai]

5 hours ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said:

 

I think Dolph is the Carrot Top of wrestling,

Carrot Top had more muscles