2017 Summer Blockbuster Movie Pool

[_MJ_]

The box office ranking is the only list that could have significant changes so I don't like my chances. Respectable but not good enough this year.

[RIPPA]

Well Dark Tower should manage to stagger past Valerine and King Arthur (it is at 34 million right now so you think it will make 4 million more by the end of 4 weeks to pass both of them)

Dunkirk will catch Pirates and Emoji is gonna come real close to Captain Underpants

There is a chance that Dark Tower could slip down into that quagmire below it on the RT list but I don't know how many more reviews might come in.

[S.K.o.S.]

I think Emoji will pass Capt. Underpants.  Also Valerian will pass King Arthur, and Atomic Blonde should pass All Eyez but it'll be close.

Let's see what happens if it finishes like that...

[S.K.o.S.]

So if the RT list doesn't change, and the box office list ends up like this:

 

1 Guardians 2

2 Wonder Woman
3 Spider-Man Home
4 Despicable 3
5 Dunkirk
6 Pirates 5
7 Cars 3
8 Planet of the Apes 3
9 Transformers 5
10 Baby Driver
11 The Mummy
12 Alien Covenant
13 Emoji Movie
14 Capt Underpants
15 Baywatch
16 Atomic Blonde
17 All Eyez
18 Dark Tower
19 Valerian
20 King Arthur

Then we would get

 

1. Elsa 46 pts
2. MJ 48 pts
3. DreamBroken 58 pts
4. Paco 58 pts
5. Natural 58 pts
6. SKoS 60 pts (but I don't get prizes)
7. RossWB 62 pts.

J.T. would finish in 9th with 64 points.

[Elsalvajeloco]

7 minutes ago, S.K.o.S. said:

So if the RT list doesn't change, and the box office list ends up like this:

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1 Guardians 2

2 Wonder Woman
3 Spider-Man Home
4 Despicable 3
5 Dunkirk
6 Pirates 5
7 Cars 3
8 Planet of the Apes 3
9 Transformers 5
10 Baby Driver
11 The Mummy
12 Alien Covenant
13 Emoji Movie
14 Capt Underpants
15 Baywatch
16 Atomic Blonde
17 All Eyez
18 Dark Tower
19 Valerian
20 King Arthur

Then we would get

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1. Elsa 46 pts
2. MJ 48 pts
3. DreamBroken 58 pts
4. Paco 58 pts
5. Natural 58 pts
6. SKoS 60 pts (but I don't get prizes)
7. RossWB 62 pts.

J.T. would finish in 9th with 64 points.

I'm down with that.

[J.T.]

I AM NOT~!

[Ace]

57 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

This is a ploy to get me to watch Xanadu. 

Don't I have to review it or something?

 

[RIPPA]

Ironically - Sorceress Knight was the one who suggested the movie for last place. That was when the idea of reviewing too was thrown out.

I just agreed to get the movie - there are no strings attached on my end

[Ace]

Feck it. I'll review it if I stay in the cellar. I liked it when I was 7.

 

[Death From Above]

I can't stop staring at how many films Baywatch beat on Rotten Tomatoes score by climbing to the heights of 19%. What a summer.

[RIPPA]

I guess it could still drop but it appears that Emoji Movie will manage to not be the worst reviewed movie in this pool's history (or at least back through 2013)

Hot Pursuit finished at 7%

Ironically Fantastic Four had 9% that year and those two are the only single digit RT movies in the pool (against at least through 2013 since those are all the ones on this version of the board)

[DreamBroken]

I'm hangin on, awesome! Thought I had bombed myself with Pirates and was out of this long ago.

[SorceressKnight]

11 hours ago, RIPPA said:

Ironically - Sorceress Knight was the one who suggested the movie for last place. That was when the idea of reviewing too was thrown out.

I just agreed to get the movie - there are no strings attached on my end

 

Doubled with...

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In, even though I'm so usually near the bottom that there should eventually just be a memorial booby prize named for me for last place finisher,  receiving a really, really bad movie. That they have to watch and report on to DVDVR.

...at least then I'd finish next to last.

 

If I predicted movies as well as I predicted my finish, then I'd never lose.

[Elsalvajeloco]

The film wasn't in the contest, but Detroit made it a whole twelve and 1/2 days in the theaters here before getting yanked. Now, that is a bomb.

[Spritenaut 32]

Box Office mojo says Detroit has taken in about $13 million in two weeks - an average of less than $1,000 per screen.  Wow.  

[RIPPA]

3 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

The film wasn't in the contest, but Detroit made it a whole twelve and 1/2 days in the theaters here before getting yanked. Now, that is a bomb.

It is only in 40% of the 3000 theaters it started in

And yes - the last two days, it has averaged less than $200 per screening. Heck, Monday it barely broke $100

[Kuetsar]

Its not the type of movie that would make huge bank anyway. It look like more a prestige movie(not that ther's anything wrong with that), and releasing it at the tail end of the summer seems misplaced. I doubt it would have drawn much better in a month or two, but with all the shit that happening in the news that similiar, its not going to draw the escapist audience, which is the vast majority of movie audiences. . .

[Elsalvajeloco]

1 hour ago, Kuetsar said:

Its not the type of movie that would make huge bank anyway. It look like more a prestige movie(not that ther's anything wrong with that), and releasing it at the tail end of the summer seems misplaced. I doubt it would have drawn much better in a month or two, but with all the shit that happening in the news that similiar, its not going to draw the escapist audience, which is the vast majority of movie audiences. . .

Yeah, I considered all of that but you would think it would be in the theater for at least a month during perhaps the leanest part of the release schedule. 

Also, I would safely assume if you're waiting for a relatively serene time to put out something like Detroit, you would be waiting decades. So I don't buy that one at all. I mean Selma came out right after Ferguson and did okay considering Oyelowo is not really a name here and the lead actress who also really isn't known played Coretta Scott King in a made-for-HBO TV movie thirteen years earlier.  I mean Nate Parker, a guy who hadn't been in a film for two years and wasn't really known, went up against a nine week long smear campaign and the most well known actress/actor in the film penning a letter in the LA Times (IIRC) right before the release that didn't help his cause at all and STILL did seven million in nine hundred less theaters.

Although I don't believe Mackie and Boyega are really stars outside of Disney owned properties that were going to be successful anyway, you would think Bigelow's return from a motion picture directorial hiatus, first non war (in the conventional sense at least) film in forever, and the positive reviews would draw at least some intrigue. At least enough intrigue for a respectable $10-$12 million opening weekend (on par with Selma's wide basically). I mean if Nate Parker can do $7 million amidst people wanting him to do a nationwide apology tour for something he was not convicted of and also the sabotage of Blavity/TheRoot/Ebony/Essence/whatever other white owned black entity that caters to the 18-35 year old black crowd that doesn't like cishet black males, Kathryn Bigelow can do $15 million first week when barely anything else of note is out and won't be out for another month upon its release. That should be feasible especially with the demand of more females behind the camera (granted Unforgettable and Rough Night didn't do well commercially and had females featured prominently in the cast as well).

[S.K.o.S.]

I seriously had no idea.  I heard the great reviews and just assumed it was doing well.  Among movies opening in at least 3000 theaters, Detroit is in the top 25 for worst opening weekend ever.

Haven't seen it yet, but it took me a couple weeks to get around to seeing Dunkirk too.

[Kuetsar]

All of which is fair, and makes sense. Maybe theater chains are having a quick hook with films that start slow? I'm not ignoring the elephant in the room, just hoping its not that. . . .

[Elsalvajeloco]

I was skeptical about seeing it. When a film about racially heated real life event is marketing solely around it being the "real truth" (to be fair though, they spent almost as much time billing it as the best reviewed film of the summer or year...I forgot which), directed by a white person, and written/produced by white people, I'm naturally skeptical to say the least but I try not to be. Honest.

Anyway, I got some good reviews back from people I really trust and was planning to see it next weekend. So yeah, that's not happening now.  At least, Logan Lucky is playing in the other Malco theater here (the smaller one closer to me replaced Detroit with Wind River) and I can see it this weekend instead a couple weeks from now when Arkansas football folks make traffic even more a bitch to deal with.

[Niners Fan in CT]

Wow all the way down to 14th. My season is over.  As for Detroit,  I think one possibility is that viewers just want to watch upbeat stuff right now. I'm just guessing based on the current political climate and also the latest Planet of the Apes movie did well below the last.  That was another movie that was "tough to watch" for audiences though I loved it. 

[Brian Fowler]

It was always a really weird release date for Detroit, but industry projections had it opening around 12-14 the Thursday before it opened. Good reviews, a trusted director with a proven track record, a topic far enough removed from present that the people who want to pretend all the problems have gone away can, but still relevant enough to comment on today... It's the most inexplicable bomb in recent memory. Like... Huh?

I think it's vanished from my local theater as well already. 

[S.K.o.S.]

UPDATE 15 OF 17 - through August 17

Standings

1 [- 1] Elsalvajeloco - 46 points (20/26, tiebreak 0.108)
2 [- 2] _MJ_ - 48 points (32/16, tiebreak 0.311)
3 [- 3] DreamBroken - 58 points (30/28, tiebreak 0.105)
4 [- 4] Paco - 58 points (26/32, tiebreak 0.157)
5 [↑ 6] The Natural - 58 points (32/26, tiebreak 0.348)
6 [↑ 7] S.K.o.S. - 60 points (24/36, tiebreak 0.318)
7 [↑ 8] RossWB - 62 points (32/30, tiebreak 0.137)
8 [↑ 10] The Z - 62 points (32/30, tiebreak 0.315)
9 [↓ 5] J.T. - 64 points (34/30, tiebreak 0.055)
10 [↓ 9] hobo joe - 64 points (26/38, tiebreak 0.181)
11 [- 11] caley - 68 points (38/30, tiebreak 0.215)
12 [↑ 13] The Erotic Terrorist - 68 points (30/38, tiebreak 0.273)
13 [↑ 15] Lacelle - 68 points (28/40, tiebreak 0.747)
14 [- 14] Niners Fan in CT - 68 points (30/38, tiebreak 0.892)
15 [↓ 12] Rippa - 70 points (32/38, tiebreak 0.132)
16 [- 16] Phantom Lord - 72 points (24/48, tiebreak 0.259)
17 [- 17] The Unholy Dragon - 76 points (36/40, tiebreak 0.049)
18 [- 18] CSC - 78 points (22/56, tiebreak 0.279)
19 [- 19] Sublime - 78 points (34/44, tiebreak 0.365)
20 [- 20] King Leonidas of Sparta - 80 points (42/38, tiebreak 0.36)
21 [- 21] Kuetsar - 84 points (40/44, tiebreak 0.735)
22 [- 22] JRGoldman - 86 points (58/28, tiebreak 0.098)
23 [- 23] ivpvideos - 90 points (42/48, tiebreak 0.126)
24 [- 24] Hail Sabin - 94 points (50/44, tiebreak 0.041)
25 [- 25] SorceressKnight - 102 points (32/70, tiebreak 0.193)
26 [- 26] Ace - 108 points (56/52, tiebreak 0.041)

Box office

1 [- 1] Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - $345,741,332 (28 days)
2 [- 2] Wonder Woman - $330,529,475 (28 days)
3 [- 3] Spider-Man: Homecoming - $286,107,776 (28 days)
4 [- 4] Despicable Me 3 - $222,699,905 (28 days)
5 [↑ 6] Dunkirk - $158,808,079 (28 days)
6 [↓ 5] Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - $154,765,326 (28 days)
7 [- 7] Cars 3 - $136,864,500 (28 days)
8 [- 8] War for the Planet of the Apes - $133,578,413 (28 days)
9 [- 9] Transformers: The Last Knight - $125,810,415 (28 days)
10 [- 10] Baby Driver - $86,363,750 (28 days)
11 [- 11] The Mummy - $76,810,270 (28 days)
12 [- 12] Alien: Covenant - $72,185,985 (28 days)
13 [- 13] Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie - $68,145,793 (28 days)
14 [- 14] The Emoji Movie - $67,417,352 (21 days)
15 [- 15] Baywatch - $55,732,692 (28 days)
16 [↑ 17] Atomic Blonde - $44,978,855 (21 days)
17 [↓ 16] All Eyez On Me - $44,578,273 (28 days)
18 [↑ 19] Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets - $38,830,728 (28 days)
19 [↑ 20] The Dark Tower - $37,884,378 (14 days)
20 [↓ 18] King Arthur: Legend of the Sword - $37,760,563 (28 days)

Rotten Tomatoes

1 [- 1] Baby Driver - 239/253 = 94% (28 days)
2 [- 2] War for the Planet of the Apes - 240/258 = 93% (28 days)
3 [- 3] Dunkirk - 304/328 = 93% (28 days)
4 [- 4] Spider-Man: Homecoming - 257/279 = 92% (28 days)
5 [- 5] Wonder Woman - 285/310 = 92% (28 days)
6 [- 6] Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie - 61/72 = 85% (28 days)
7 [- 7] Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - 238/293 = 81% (28 days)
8 [- 8] Atomic Blonde - 165/220 = 75% (21 days)
9 [- 9] Alien: Covenant - 202/286 = 71% (28 days)
10 [- 10] Cars 3 - 105/155 = 68% (28 days)
11 [- 11] Despicable Me 3 - 92/151 = 61% (28 days)
12 [- 12] Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets - 107/210 = 51% (28 days)
13 [- 13] Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - 60/209 = 29% (28 days)
14 [- 14] King Arthur: Legend of the Sword - 57/200 = 29% (28 days)
15 [- 15] Baywatch - 34/178 = 19% (28 days)
16 [- 16] The Dark Tower - 26/160 = 16% (14 days)
17 [- 17] All Eyez On Me - 11/68 = 16% (28 days)
18 [- 18] The Mummy - 35/230 = 15% (28 days)
19 [- 19] Transformers: The Last Knight - 26/176 = 15% (28 days)
20 [- 20] The Emoji Movie - 7/90 = 8% (21 days)

[RIPPA]

Oof...

Is it too late for me to free fall all the way to Xanadu?