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21 hours ago, brocklock said:

I put In A Glass Cage with Salo, Nekromantik, and Man Behind The Sun in the category of too much for me to watch. And then there's the pretend snuff movies like August Underground or Guinea Pig series I feel like I'll end up on a list if I watch.

Odd.  my ballot will certainly include its share of psycho killer thrillers and slasher movies, but I really don't consider the snuff pack to be horror.

Horror is supposed to mostly incite fear, not revulsion.  I prefer horror that tries to frighten me and that crap mostly triggers my gag reflex.

The notable exception would be the Mermaid in a Manhole story from the Guinea Pig movies which was actually a rather well told love story despite the disturbing bits.

9 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

While I remember it, Kill List

Always remember Kill List.

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6 hours ago, J.T. said:

The notable exception would be the Mermaid in a Manhole story from the Guinea Pig movies which was actually a rather well told love story despite the disturbing bits.

See, that's the one I remember as more of a comedy. Well, black comedy, I guess. It's been years since I saw that. 

If you put something like Flowers of Flesh and Blood or Aftermath on your list I'm giving you shit, so be forewarned

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13 hours ago, J.T. said:

Odd.  my ballot will certainly include its share of psycho killer thrillers and slasher movies, but I really don't consider the snuff pack to be horror.

Horror is supposed to mostly incite fear, not revulsion.  I prefer horror that tries to frighten me and that crap mostly triggers my gag reflex.

The notable exception would be the Mermaid in a Manhole story from the Guinea Pig movies which was actually a rather well told love story despite the disturbing bits.

Always remember Kill List.

I don't either, although they are eligible as IMDB lists them as horror. I'll be creeped out by anyone giving votes out to August Underground's Mordum. Just knowing that movie exists makes me feel gross.

I think only Flowers of Flesh and Blood and Devil's Experiment are snuff from the Guinea Pig movies. I still will not be watching anything from the series regardless.

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This reminds me of a Flickchart user's top 20 I saw recently. It has to be a joke, right? I don't want to believe that there's someone who loves these movies that much and watches them repeatedly.

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On 2017-5-20 at 0:17 AM, Curt McGirt said:

You just reminded me of A Serbian Tale. Luckily I've never seen that, and I hope none of you have either. 

So um, I actually have seen it, at the Fantasia festival in Montreal.  This was well before the synopsis was up on Wikipedia for everyone to be horrified at.  Basically, they were selling it like "you can't handle this movie" and that's a pretty good way to get me to watch something, although I've only seen 4 out of the 20 movies in Throat's post.  Anyway, A Serbian Film won't be making my ballot.

FYI, to the best of my recollection, some of the most offensive parts in the movie are implied rather than shown.

A point about the ending in the spoiler:

 

I was actually going to mention A Serbian Film earlier when Kill List was brought up - it always struck me as such an incredible coincidence that one particular aspect of the endings of both those movies are so similar.  I think they came out a few months apart, close enough that you can't say that one ripped off the other.

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8 hours ago, Throat said:

This reminds me of a Flickchart user's top 20 I saw recently. It has to be a joke, right? I don't want to believe that there's someone who loves these movies that much and watches them repeatedly.

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They're probably either a Wall Street banker or a high-ranking politician, either having some shit on their hard drive that would get them thrown under the jail if they didn't have enough money to make it go away. 

I don't even want to know what Captured for Sex 2 (or 1, for that matter) is

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On ‎5‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 0:17 AM, Curt McGirt said:

You just reminded me of A Serbian Tale. Luckily I've never seen that, and I hope none of you have either. 

Umm..  Er.... Yeah....  I watched it to check the box one night and It is about as nasty as you'd expect it to be. 

18 hours ago, S.K.o.S. said:

This was well before the synopsis was up on Wikipedia for everyone to be horrified at.  Basically, they were selling it like "you can't handle this movie" and that's a pretty good way to get me to watch something.

Yeah, the marketing of the movie pretty much showed me what an overindulgent idiot that director Srđan Spasojević is.

Spasojević has all of these legit socio-political, governmentally critical, and artistically expressionistic points he wants to convey to the audience, but he does it in a movie that he has deliberately crafted to be nigh unwatchable.

A film only the director would be able to sit through and / or appreciate.

A Serbian Film just reminds me why there are times that I'd love to palm heel strike directors like Gaspard Noe, Tom Six, Fred Vogel and Lars Von Trier squarely in the nose.

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22 hours ago, Throat said:

This reminds me of a Flickchart user's top 20 I saw recently. It has to be a joke, right? I don't want to believe that there's someone who loves these movies that much and watches them repeatedly.

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The only movie on that list that I would remotely consider to be a horror film is Audition.

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2 hours ago, J.T. said:

The only movie on that list that I would remotely consider to be a horror film is Audition.

That's also the only movie of the eight I've seen from that list that I've watched more than once. It was disturbing, but not so much that I regretted seeing it. You said earlier that horror should incite fear rather than revulsion, which I generally agree with, but I think Audition is a good horror film that incites both. That's rare. Shit like Aftermath is all revulsion. There's really no arguing the merits of that one. IMDB categorizes it as horror, but it's really just porn for corpse-fuckers.

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There are couple of movies on that list that deserve some mentioning.

  • Despite being totally repulsive, Cannibal Holocaust is the undisputed mother of the horror found footage genre.  I grudgingly acknowledge its street cred because there would be no NOROI: The Curse, Blair Witch Project, or Paranormal Activity without this landmark motion picture.
  • If you can bear what Monica Bellucci puts herself through for the sake of her craft, Irreversible is a very clever motion picture.  It still does not make me any less likely to want to punch Gaspard Noe in the throat if I ever saw him in public, though.
  • Audition totally does not belong on that list because it is a great fucking movie.  It starts out so light and fluffy and then nose dives straight into hell.  You spend the first half of the movie in semi-loathing of the lead guy and saying to yourself, "I sure do hope this bastard gets what's coming to him," and when he finally does get what's coming to him you are all "NO ONE DESERVES TO BE PUT THROUGH THAT~!"  Audition plays you like a banjo and it is great.

 

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Happily I've only seen four of those (Cannibal Holocaust/Audition/Aftermath/The Girl Next Door). I don't count Men Behind the Sun but I saw the sequel and that was bad enough. And the first Nekromantik which was bad enough, but somehow less nauseating than the Men sequel. 

I own a Dutch bootleg DVD of Cannibal Holocaust so I can't really bitch about anybody adding that if they want, but for me... nope.

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On 5/22/2017 at 9:42 AM, J.T. said:

The only movie on that list that I would remotely consider to be a horror film is Audition.

What about The Girl Next Door? Definitely an uncomfortable view especially if you're buds with the author of the book, as I am and have been told that what really happened was worse than anything in the book or film... Still, any film that does justice to a Jack Ketchum novel is worth your attention...

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I've seen it more than once (the second time in an uncomfortably near-uncut version during prime time on Chiller) and though I appreciate the forwardness of dealing with the subject matter, it's just no fun. Is it horror? Sure, but it's not making the list. 

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I read the synopsis of A Serbian Film on Wikipedia once. Nope. 

I haven't read Ketchum and I've always avoided The Girl Next Door, but I watched the adaptation of The Woman a couple of years ago. It relies totally on the performances to suggest an abusive household for the first 2/3 and it's spellbinding. Once the shit hits the fan though, it's pretty disgusting and reprehensible to my recollection. 

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On 5/27/2017 at 4:31 PM, OSJ said:

What about The Girl Next Door? Definitely an uncomfortable view especially if you're buds with the author of the book, as I am and have been told that what really happened was worse than anything in the book or film... Still, any film that does justice to a Jack Ketchum novel is worth your attention...

I still think of it as more of a True Crime movie even though it is indeed horrifying and worth watching and Jack Ketchum's novel is definitely a must read for any Criminology or Psychology scholar.

Humans are definitely capable of things that are light years more horrifying and cruel than anything a movie studio could dream up.

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Horror or not, The Girl Next Door is a pretty shit movie.

The performances are pretty terrible.. The Mean Woman's Mean Dialogue is corny. The ending is silly. The score sounds like generic filler. Is the story it's based on scary? Yeah a girl getting tortured in a basement is scary. But that doesn't make this movie scary. 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, jaedmc said:

Horror or not, The Girl Next Door is a pretty shit movie.

The performances are pretty terrible.. The Mean Woman's Mean Dialogue is corny. The ending is silly. The score sounds like generic filler. Is the story it's based on scary? Yeah a girl getting tortured in a basement is scary. But that doesn't make this movie scary.

More disturbing than scary. 

It's not a great movie, but it's not totally horrible and it is moderately better than its counterpart, An American Crime..

But yeah, not horror.

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