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Vince is such a fascinating set of contradictions. The evil bastard that screwed so many people over, but also the guy that flew Percy Pringle first class to New York, comped everything at the hotel, and gave him a job interview just because Rick Rude asked him too and Percy twas struggling deeply (broke, car just repoed, etc)

The guy who crushed the territories with evil underhanded moves (paying Hogan a bonus to not work out his last few dates) but also who so many people seem to have so much respect for.

The movie could potentially be fascinating. Pandemonium is a terrible title though.

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2 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said:

Vince is such a fascinating set of contradictions. The evil bastard that screwed so many people over, but also the guy that flew Percy Pringle first class to New York, comped everything at the hotel, and gave him a job interview just because Rick Rude asked him too and Percy twas struggling deeply (broke, car just repoed, etc)

The guy who crushed the territories with evil underhanded moves (paying Hogan a bonus to not work out his last few dates) but also who so many people seem to have so much respect for.

The movie could potentially be fascinating. Pandemonium is a terrible title though.

Good name for indy lucha guys though?

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2 minutes ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said:

Are we certain those are real luchadores?  That's some sad white boy dancing right there.  I kinda think one of those guys is Vin Gerard.

Maybe one is also Lana. 

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I'm interested to see what the source material on the Vince biopic is. Usually these things are based on a book or hell even an article or something. There's nothing to indicate the people that wrote this script and who want to make this movie did any of that. That means the WWE will have a lot of control over the source material especially if they have a huge hand in producing this. I can't imagine there will be one negative thing about Vince in this movie.

It's gonna be like that John Gotti movie with John Travolta that's coming out that John Jr Gotti is making. You better believe his dad is gonna look good in it.

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37 minutes ago, Roman said:

This continues to be amazing:
 

 

I'm not sure if Brain was 

1. Trying to get Tony to crack up

2. Trying to piss Tony off

3. Having fun for his own amusement

4. Just playing his character

5. All of the above

It's probably the last one. 

Also, that dancing is perfectly acceptable from rudos. Christ, it's almost required. 

EDIT: #6 would be "Completely sauced" but I think that goes without saying

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Just now, Curt McGirt said:

I'm not sure if Brain was 

1. Trying to get Tony to crack up

2. Trying to piss Tony off

3. Having fun for his own amusement

4. Just playing his character

5. All of the above

It's probably the last one. 

Also, that dancing is perfectly acceptable from rudos. Christ, it's almost required. 

6. Legitimately thinks Duggan is a fucking moron and was laughing for real.

I have no idea, but it's great any which way.

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25 minutes ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said:

Are we certain those are real luchadores?  That's some sad white boy dancing right there.  I kinda think one of those guys is Vin Gerard.

Look, I'll be totally honest. When I first started to look, I thought it was a Panda gimmick for some reason. Maybe I was thinking of this?

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It's possible. Duggan in interviews seems like a sweet guy but no great marks upstairs and Brain is, well, the Brain -- the best comedian in professional wrestling. I can see him having a mocking attitude to most if not all in the locker room for his own smarts alone, which was probably kept completely to himself

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A quote from his Playboy interview in 2001:

 

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"At around the same time there was a girl my age who was, in essence, my cousin. Later in life she actually wound up marrying that asshole Leo Lupton, my stepfather! Boy, this sounds like Tobacco Road. Anyway, I remember the two of us being so curious about each other’s bodies but not knowing what the hell to do. We would go into the woods and get naked together. It felt good. And for some reason I wanted to put crushed leaves into her. Don’t know why, but I remember that."

 

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Seriously though, that's pretty bizarre behavior. If Vince were the type of kid to also kill small animals, I would say that for sure he would have turned out to be some kind of mass murderer. 

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10 minutes ago, Cristobal said:

I could've gone my whole life without reading that.

But you didn't, so might as well embrace the madness!

Since you can't believe any of the weird shit that comes out of Vince's carny mouth, really this film should be structured like The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. 

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Have any of you guys seen The Founder with Michael Keaton as Ray Krock, the guy who took McDonald's nationwide? For me that's EXACTLY how you should do a Vince biopic. Start him out as the ernest kid who's just buying his dad's business to keep it going and then slowly he puts everyone around him out of business, comes across as a shark and succeeds in the end. 

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19 hours ago, caley said:

Mike Enos was amazing on WCWSN around this time when he was just a singles wrestler, and busted out all kinds of crazy power moves on jobbers and just dominated them.  I remember at the time i was tracking Wins/Losses on WWF/WCW TV shows and then making a Top 10 based off of those Wins-Losses (I long ago lost the records but it was fun at the time) and Enos would always win in dominating fashion so I kept moving him up my Top 10 list and had him right near the top and thought "They must have big plans for him" and was waiting for the big Mike Enos moment, then he'd get squashed by some low level NWO guy (Like Brian Adams) and I'd have to move him down off the list.  This happened a few times and I got fooled every time ("This.  This is the Enos' time to shine!").

Just watched this and he pulls some wild shit out. His bumps and immediate selling are really nice, but he doesn't sell long term. Everytime he makes a comeback he looks like he just got in the ring. But still the 180 powerslam off the top and the weird ass fisherman shoulderbreaker thing are fucking aces.

Might go on an Enos binge.

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