RIPPA Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 ROMAN REIGNS ROUND ONE SHINSUKE NAKAMURA ROUND ONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Two people voted for Roman? That's just precious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Anyone want to take Nakamura's best matches and put them against Reigns best matches? Cause while Nakamura's best match in the time frame is amazing, everything else he did was just kinda middling between "meh" to "pretty good" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Hot take: Shinsuke has been a detriment to NXT. I dunno, is that even a hot take at this point? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Sandwich Carl Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 This one is a no brainer to me: Reigns. Nak was frustrating all year while Reigns was consistently good-great in ring all year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, JonnyLaw said: Hot take: Shinsuke has been a detriment to NXT. I dunno, is that even a hot take at this point? I'm not sure Nak himself has been a detriment, but the booking itself has been pretty shit and led nothing of note the entire year that interested me outside of the tag division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, JonnyLaw said: Hot take: Shinsuke has been a detriment to NXT. I dunno, is that even a hot take at this point? I think NXT has been a detriment to Nak. You can tell he's mostly just biding his time until he gets called up to the big show. And it's not like they've sacrificed the roster or the show to him: he's jobbed the title twice and done multiple injury angles that kept him off TV for stretches. I can't think of anyone of consequence that he's beaten who wasn't already on their way up to the main roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Funnily enough - we are all like GOD WE NEED MORE NXT FAN CAMS!!!! in the hopes it would be a boon for all their workers Nak would be actively hurt if his house show stuff was out there in full 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I liked Nakamura-Zayn, but I think I actually preferred Rusev-Reigns from Raw. So I ended up going Reigns on the higher end as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Nak's been a case of diminishing returns since his hot debut, and Reigns has had some really high highs the past year. Their fortunes have sort of reversed since last Wrestlemania weekend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Nakamura has pretty much been in NJPW house show 6 man tag match mode since arriving at NXT (don't blame him due to his age and miles on his body). Reigns has had a better year overall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 This is the "grading on a curve" match. One guy we expect more of and felt let down vs one guy we expect nothing of and are pleasantly surprised when he doesn't step on his own dick and fall out a window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I'm a Nakamura fan, but I've enjoyed more Reigns matches than Nak matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I would take Reigns's matches with AJ over anything Nakamura did in this period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Sandwich Carl Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 27 minutes ago, Technico Support said: This is the "grading on a curve" match. One guy we expect more of and felt let down vs one guy we expect nothing of and are pleasantly surprised when he doesn't step on his own dick and fall out a window. While I agree with the sentiment, Reigns was actively good this year and has been for years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 And I'd take AJ/Nakamura over anything Roman has done in his entire career. Meanwhile I'd take Nakamura/Booby Roode over anything Roman did not against AJ Styles, and Nak/Zayn is still something Reigns can't match. I'm not gonna hold the tire fire that is the booking of Roman Reigns against him, but his stuff with Owens, Jericho, and Strowman wasn't really any better than Nak's series with Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 AJ/Nak was definitely not in period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I'm a huge Nakamura mark. While his coasting is better than a lot of people's all out best, he's been firmly coasting, and that's the fault of the booking and him being stuck in NXT. While his booking is absolute shit, Roman's been busting his ass to attempt to overcome it, or at the very least justify it, regardless how people react. I'm going Roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, EVA said: AJ/Nak was definitely not in period. I think his point is that AJ/Roman doesn't mean as much when you consider Nak would have likely produced something much better had he been in that spot, and the evidence is that we know what an AJ/Nak match looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Reigns is becoming a Cena-type who love him or hate him is producing solid work every time out. Nak isn't that type of performer and has been handcuffed by the limitations of nxt. I don't see how naks year measures up to reigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Evidence be damned I'm not voting against Nakamura. The fact that Roman's winning, and maybe deservedly so, is highly damning evidence of Nak being stuck in NXT. FFS he needed to be on the MR last year and it's borderline criminal he's not. While I get why people vote Reigns I damn sure don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Technico Support said: This is the "grading on a curve" match. One guy we expect more of and felt let down vs one guy we expect nothing of and are pleasantly surprised when he doesn't step on his own dick and fall out a window. Are there really people who don't expect much out of Roman at this point? 34 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said: Evidence be damned I'm not voting against Nakamura. The fact that Roman's winning, and maybe deservedly so, is highly damning evidence of Nak being stuck in NXT. FFS he needed to be on the MR last year and it's borderline criminal he's not. While I get why people vote Reigns I damn sure don't like it. I see Nak sticking to his wacky schtick just as much on the main roster as on NXT, if not moreso. At least in NXT he's not on the show every week, while on Raw/Smackdown he will be, so the coasting, if it continues, will be more pronounced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I can see that on the weekly shows, but considering the awesome talent they have there could be some pretty damn good matches. If somebody like Cesaro was against him I can guarandamntee they'd do what they can to make some magic out there. And the network specials could be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 For the past few months of NXT my feelings on Nak is that he is bored and probably frustrated with being in NXT still and at this point the best thing might just be for him to go back the NJPW. I'm pretty sure he'll be on the main roster after Mania but who knows how well that will turn out. He could work magic against a lot of the guys on either brand but will his heart be in it is the question I have. That said his matches with Sami and Roode were aces. I'm not entirely sure I'm ready to vote for Roman yet so I'm holding off to think some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 3 hours ago, JonnyLaw said: Hot take: Shinsuke has been a detriment to NXT. I dunno, is that even a hot take at this point? Shinsuke hasn't been the detriment to NXT as much as he just had bad luck to get there just as they lost everything that made NXT NXT - all the great NXT stars who did it on how well-written they were (it's highly meaningful Nakamura's first NXT match was Sami Zayn's swansong in NXT), losing Ryan Ward's writing, having lost Dusty Rhodes's character work- and it was replaced with the "oooh...new indy darling! They're all SHIIIIIIIIINYYYYYYYYYYY...shiny shiny shiny...oh, now it's boring...OOH! NEW new indy darling!", repeat booking that's hindered it. It's not a hot take to say Shinsuke was a detriment to NXT- it'd be a hot take to say: Swap AJ Styles and Shinsuke Nakamura's WWE careers thus far and there is no difference. Nakamura likely does as well as Styles has, and Styles wouldn't stem the bleeding in NXT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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