Cristobal Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The problem with that analogy is that Strowman is starting his 3rd year in the bigs, when his first year was spent in the pen, whereas Dean's the wrong side of 30 and been in the rotation for years now. Yeah, regression for Strowman is possible, especially if he gets sacrificed on the altar of Making Roman Look Really Strong and he loses some of that monster aura, but it's not really the expected path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cristobal said: The problem with that analogy is that Strowman is starting his 3rd year in the bigs, when his first year was spent in the pen, whereas Dean's the wrong side of 30 and been in the rotation for years now. Yeah, regression for Strowman is possible, especially if he gets sacrificed on the altar of Making Roman Look Really Strong and he loses some of that monster aura, but it's not really the expected path. Can Jericho be Corbin Bernsen in this somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Even giving Dean Ambrose the "he's on the down side of the booking" excuse, Braun has been in more entertaining stuff than Dean has been in the established time frame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 57 minutes ago, Matt D said: Can Jericho be Corbin Bernsen in this somehow? Jericho is Jamie Moyer, putting up a 2.8 WAR season at age 45. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Braun's theme music also sounds like some Victory Records thing my friends would have subjected me to circa '96 or so. Not a selling point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Greggulator said: Braun's theme music also sounds like some Victory Records thing my friends would have subjected me to circa '96 or so. Not a selling point. I think that Braun earning such high regard in spite of his theme music IS a selling point. He definitely needs something a bit more Mastadon-y to come to the ring to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 His song is pretty Mastadon-y. And it starting with him just yelling is soooo great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Both of these guys have had starkly different years pre and post-Draft. I think Dean picked up a good bit of steam as the top babyface on Smackdown (non-Cena division) and did better than a lot of people expected. Since the draft, Braun has played his role perfectly, which is usually enough to get advance someone pretty far in these. He's also responsible for introducing us to Ellsworth, which depending on your stance, is a pro or a con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 45 minutes ago, Oyaji said: His song is pretty Mastadon-y. And it starting with him just yelling is soooo great. It sounds more Blood And Thunder Mastadon-y when I need it to sound more Divinations Mastadon-y. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The Jericho feud, people. The Jericho feud. The Asylum match. Come on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I blame that on Jericho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 They're both guilty but I think he did more after that to justify a pick over Braun and, again, I love me what Braun's become but it's been a few months of that. He was often the best part of the Shield match and at least he's been getting more creative with the rebound lariat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 I love y'all are ignoring the Brock match too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I do not know this Brock match that you speak of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I mean, the Brock match was awful, but it was also simply not given a real chance to be great. As much as I'm not a big Ambrose guy, I'd blame him least for it behind Brock and the booking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Strowman has been playing his role to perfection and improving in the ring. Ambrose seems to have just stopped giving a shit. Also, Strowman was a better Austin podcast than Dean, who seemed to be suffering from narcolepsy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Knowing what we know now, I'd agree with that. Brock didn't want to take any decent bumps or look remotely bad since he was going into that match with Hunt. Ambrose could only do so much and I don't think he's crazy enough to pot shot Brock or work stiff because Brock would just kill him. You can look at the Brock vs Reigns match and you can easily tell that Brock was going to let Reigns punch the shit out of Brock's face and Brock was going to take stiff shots to get that match over. There was practically none of that when it came to the match with Ambrose, which is bullshit. I honestly can't remember which way I predicted this match either. I may have voted for Ambrose just because while Braun is awesome, he only started coming on strong within the last couple months. Ambrose has done excellent work on SmackDown! since the draft happened. Nothing mind blowing, but he's been consistently good to great for longer than Braun has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The Brock and the Jericho match are both examples of the problem- they sucked, but they both were not Ambrose's fault for Lesnar not wanting to give him anything, booking letting them, and Jericho seeming washed up until the JeriKO thing began. Even if they're bad things, compare it to Wyatt Family Strowman between March-June before he split off from the group and came into his own, and Ambrose STILL had the better first half of the voting period (albeit with Strowman's second half still managing to be better than Ambrose's second half, EVEN WITH Ambrose normalizing on SDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 This is the year of Styles making things that should not be good great. It's also the year of Ambrose sure as hell not doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 He's not against Styles in this round, he's against a guy that does his role well but his role isn't particularly difficult to pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Ambrose is a fairly competent babyface Doink, I'll give you. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I laffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Damn, Matt's showing little ring rust, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Matt D said: Can Jericho be Corbin Bernsen in this somehow? Only if he says "Strike this GUY out" but when reading his lips, you notice guy replaces a much longer word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I am unsure on this one. In-ring, both of their best matches were against better wrestlers. Both had some mediocre (or actively bad) parts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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