Travis Sheldon Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 I forgot to mention Red Letter Media did a +/-90 minute video on The Acolyte and the online culture clash surrounding the show. It's a long watch, but if you're into those Wisconsin reprobates it's worth your time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roofiethebutcher Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 The show has bad writing, acting, editing, and pacing. Every "character" is just a tool to move the "plot" forward. The named characters that died had about as much depth as the red shirts. Mae and Osha are so hollow and contradict themselves all the time. Sol is the only one I care about, but the writing keeps trying it's hardest to make him stupider and stupider that liking him is getting more difficult. Every character is dumb, but they seem to be doubling down on making him the worst. Lee Jung-jae deserves so much better for all the effort he has put into the role. I also feel bad for Yord. Treated as a damn punchline and punching bag the whole series. I think the only one that has gone unharmed from a character perspective is Bazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bones Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 23 hours ago, Travis Sheldon said: I forgot to mention Red Letter Media did a +/-90 minute video on The Acolyte and the online culture clash surrounding the show. It's a long watch, but if you're into those Wisconsin reprobates it's worth your time. I like those guys. But I tend to not watch their Star Wars stuff anymore. I kind of already know what they’ll do so I’ve heard it all at this point. Complain all they want. But they sure don’t miss a chance to make a Star Wars video for content. To be fair they’re mild compared to the rage farming dolts out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Yeah, I haven't seen The Acolyte yet, but I have no idea if it's any good or not. Because it's hard to parse whether it's an actual bad show, or it's a perfectly acceptable show that is being hated due to certain people hating it's comparative lack of Straight White Men. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 2 hours ago, AxB said: Yeah, I haven't seen The Acolyte yet, but I have no idea if it's any good or not. Because it's hard to parse whether it's an actual bad show, or it's a perfectly acceptable show that is being hated due to certain people hating it's comparative lack of Straight White Men. Its mainly just ok. It hasn't reached the highs of any of the other shows, but the latest episode was probably the first time it had an arguably bad episode. Before then it hadn't really reached any of the other shows' lows. Even last week's wasn't such a problem it necessarily killed the potential of the show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 19 hours ago, AxB said: Yeah, I haven't seen The Acolyte yet, but I have no idea if it's any good or not. Because it's hard to parse whether it's an actual bad show, or it's a perfectly acceptable show that is being hated due to certain people hating it's comparative lack of Straight White Men. Exactly what @Eivion said. The shitty parts of Star Wars fandom are getting all the headlines for acting exactly the way you'd expect, and if this show is trolling via the lack of white males in key roles, I heartily applaud the creators, as I've said before. Tuning out all that noise, the show is just fine, not bad, not amazing, but the last episode sure did have some, let's say, interesting choices that I hope are redeemed in the final three. Nothing as egregious as Boba Fett's multicolored hot rod kidz, though. Edited July 2 by Technico Support 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 I actually liked last week’s episode, but I agree with the overall consensus that it’s just fine. I’m digging Jason Mendoza from the Good Place in it, but otherwise it seems like it’s hinting at much bigger things that presumably won’t get settled/revealed in this show/season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Jason as a Sith feels so weird, but I mostly associate him as Jason from the Good Place when I see him. I do wish it had been less obvious or not the case at all if only for a surprise. Thought this week was better with the focus on Jason and Osha. Hopefully we get the answers on what happened in the past in full next episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) Never seen the Jason guy before but it’s hilarious that the Sith dude is an impossibly good looking underwear model with dreamy eyes and pouty lips. Did he turn because the Jedi tried to restrain his mojo? Was Yoda like, “this rizz, contain it we cannot?” He was totally trying to distract Osha with his other lightsaber when he got out of the water. Edited July 5 by Technico Support 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 I immediately envisioned Jason Vorhees as a Sith when I read that. Lightsaber machete! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, Technico Support said: Never seen the Jason guy before but it’s hilarious that the Sith dude is an impossibly good looking underwear model with dreamy eyes and pouty lips. Did he turn because the Jedi tried to restrain his mojo? Was Yoda like, “this rizz, contain it we cannot?” Re: Qimir/Jason Mendoza ,It’s a little funny because (spoiler for a minor plot twist from very early in a ~7 yr old show) Spoiler He started off in the Good Place playing a goofy idiot who was pretending to be a stoic monk. Edited July 5 by JonnyLaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Damn, he got on that Hollywood 2 chicken breast 1 broccoli diet for Acolyte. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 On 7/5/2024 at 11:31 PM, Technico Support said: Damn, he got on that Hollywood 2 chicken breast 1 broccoli diet for Acolyte. He was really ripped in the Good Place also. So was Chidi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 12 hours ago, Craig H said: He was really ripped in the Good Place also. So was Chidi. This reminds me that all four of the Good Place regulars have Disney jobs. I wish Chidi’s didn’t seem destined for a throwaway role, but he can always be recast as someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 So I actually like the show. The story is interesting. The acting and dialogue is bad, even by SW standards, which are low to begin with. Lee Jung-Jae is great despite not knowing English. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 I think the acting is mostly ok. Its more the dialogue that is off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) The latest episode, the long-awaited flashback, was very good. I'm theorizing there's a correlation between my enjoyment of this ep and its lack of Stupid Sexy Sith. Edited July 11 by Technico Support 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Overall? The Acolyte was a narrative cluster fuck. Characters all in a moral gewy area and being in the wrong despite insisting they were doing the right thing. My honest opinion is that the best Disney era Star Wars are projects that do not have Jedi involved. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) I thought it had interesting ideas but needed better directing and writing. The Mandalorian, Rebels, & Ahsoka all rank pretty well for me in Disney era Star Wars so I'm not sure I can agree the best projects don't involve Jedi. So Spoiler that was Plagueis who they showed peaking out when they left the planet, right? Edited July 18 by Eivion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 5 hours ago, Eivion said: I thought it had interesting ideas but needed better directing and writing. The Mandalorian, Rebels, & Ahsoka all rank pretty well for me in Disney era Star Wars so I'm not sure I can agree the best projects don't involve Jedi. So Hide contents that was Plagueis who they showed peaking out when they left the planet, right? Answer: Spoiler Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Rogue One: A Star Wars Movie (2016) is definitely the best Disney Star Wars. I still go back to watch THAT Darth Vader scene. It's perfect. After that, Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015). I'm sad what happened afterwards. I really didn't like Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi (2017) and Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker (2019). Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018) wasn't necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 The best Disney Star Wars thing is Andor. The best movie is Rogue One. And to be fair, if you remove the word Disney, that's still true. It is pretty interesting to me that, those of us who watched the OG trilogy as kids and then the prequels in our 20s, the overwhelming narrative was "Get George away from Star Wars, he insists on both infantilising and over-complicating everything, he can't direct actors and his plots make no sense... it peaked with Empire when he was more collaborational and less of a dictatorial god". But there's a subset of fans who were kids for the prequels, in their 20s for episodes 7-9, who rage against Kathleen Kennedy and her constant besmirching of the godlike genius that is George Lucas and his brilliant and fantastical vision for the Star Wars universe. Now granted, a lot of them are actually mad because Star Wars is liberal and diverse now (it always was; George Lucas made Red Tails, despite it not being his story to tell, because nobody else was going to tell it if he didn't), and are being disingenuous. And a lot of them are refusing to actually look back and see that the Star Wars franchise, from its inception, has never actually been as good as they falsely remember it being. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) Honestly I had Acolyte in the middle of the pack in terms of the live action shows, and I honestly quite liked it. It's just a show that swung for the fences, but came away with a double. I'm not even going to entertain all the dumbass arguments that the rage bait youtubers brought up about breaking lore and shit. But I keep seeing people attack the writing, acting and directing, and outside of a couple of things, I just never saw a problem with any of those. I recommend people try out some media literacy. Frankly, outside of the sequel trilogy, I think Disney has done a good job with Star Wars. The shows are mostly good-great, the books are coherent and actually mostly good. They are trying new things to take the franchise in interesting directions, and the franchise desperately needs new. I saw someone suggest that most of the hate comes from people who have ignored the last 10 years of the actual canon, and can't accept that the stuff that they held onto isn't relevent anymore, and that just makes too much sense to me. Lastly, I'm totally fine with the show not having a true protagonist or good guy. The Jedi are cops and the show treated them like it. Edited July 21 by RandomAct 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Finally found time to watch the finale, and I agree with @randomact. It’s not a narrative cluster just because characters in a morally gray area are acting like they’re in the right. Treating the Jedi like powerful and well meaning people who accidentally overreact while thinking they’re doing what’s right is probably the best and most reasonable take on the recent canon given what we’ve seen and know about their fall. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Leaked Mandalorian & Grogu teaser trailer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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