Zimbra Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I think "nerds are shitty and toxic" is a sufficient answer without trying to bring foreign plots into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Today's ink blot test: But! It's down relative to TFA. But! Physical media sells less well in general now, and TFA had more special editions and novelty in its favor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Matt D said: I honestly starting to think that some of the TLJ hatred is part of a Russian disinformation campaign. "Never ascribe to malice, that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Beech27 said: Today's ink blot test: But! It's down relative to TFA. But! Physical media sells less well in general now, and TFA had more special editions and novelty in its favor. This is exactly why I hope Disney doesn't make any knee jerk reactions to a small, really, really small and vocal minority and they don't fuck up Episode 9. Then again, they responded to a small, vocal minority who believes in a hollywood pedophile sex slavery ring enough to fire James Gunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 On the other hand, Steve Bannon has for years openly seen toxic, angry nerds as a useful weapon. At this point, if I see too much griping about cultural issues in massive nerd drama, my bullshit detector goes off and I start to wonder about who's fanning those flames. Weaponized nerd rage. I feel like I'm living in science fiction. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 6 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: On the other hand, Steve Bannon has for years openly seen toxic, angry nerds as a useful weapon. At this point, if I see too much griping about cultural issues in massive nerd drama, my bullshit detector goes off and I start to wonder about who's fanning those flames. Weaponized nerd rage. I feel like I'm living in science fiction. I was half kidding, but only half, because it feels a lot like a lot of the other things we've seen out of the foreign social media troll factories that have been revealed this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 19 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: On the other hand, Steve Bannon has for years openly seen toxic, angry nerds as a useful weapon. At this point, if I see too much griping about cultural issues in massive nerd drama, my bullshit detector goes off and I start to wonder about who's fanning those flames. Weaponized nerd rage. I feel like I'm living in science fiction. No, I think you're right. It's so easy to divide people, so why not divide them over this shit as well. I certainly thought about this being the result of troll factories or 4chan/8chan. It certainly passes the sniff test with how ridiculous it is. To many of us, hell, probably all of us, we can look at this garbage like trying to start a re-make TLJ movement complete with shitty logo and see that this is too ridiculous to believe unless you're a rube so of course a bunch of people would fall for it and let it divide them. That's been the M.O. for troll factories and 4chan/8chan for awhile now. It's fucking weird that we live in the greatest age of information where nearly all information, accurate information is available from the palm of your hand and yet so many fall for the trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Last Jedi DVD release date: 23 Mar 2018 Thor Ragnarok DVD release date: 6 Mar 2018 Black Panther DVD release date: 15 May 2018 So basically, it's outsold Thor, whilst having had an extra eight weeks on release to outsell Black Panther. Shouldn't you really wait until the end of the year to tell us that actually Infinity War sold more than any of them? And that nobody paid for a copy of Solo: A Star Wars story, thus undercutting any Lucasfilm triumphalism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Sure. That's basically why I called the post an ink blot test; or maybe it's Schrodinger's movie franchise, both alive and dead, because Rian denied us access to JJ's mystery boxes. Fwiw, TLJ and Black Panther have already swamped Age of Ultron's physical media sales, so I don't think it's a given that Infinity War will outsell either of them. And hell, though Solo doubtlessly underperformed, it still outgrossed its reported budget by 100 million already. All of which is to say... I don't know, exactly. Talking about corporate profits is a bit depressing, ultimately, but it's all profitable thus far. So, here's a thing: I've read the two Thrawn novels, and--though the names are different--it really does look like the EU is setting up another warlike alien race from *waves hands* way over there that might get around to trying to conquer the galaxy when its narratively convenient. This was probably inevitable, insofar as threats must escalate in franchises--so you go from a force that wants to control the galaxy to one that basically just wants to kill everyone in it--but I'm not terribly interested in it. I think Star Wars would benefit from more intimate stakes, for the near future, but that was probably never gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Well I mean, Ezra and Thrawn went... somewhere, at the end of Rebels, with Asoka and Sabine looking for Ezra at least, so that's something set up way down the line for next trilogy perhaps, or whatever the next TV/cartoon ends up being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Raziel said: Well I mean, Ezra and Thrawn went... somewhere, at the end of Rebels, with Asoka and Sabine looking for Ezra at least, so that's something set up way down the line for next trilogy perhaps, or whatever the next TV/cartoon ends up being. Yeah. I just mean we have a name and encounters now. It's pretty explicit. (My initial post didn't really convey that...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I've only read the mini-series comic based on the first Thrawn novel, but I suspect whatever Thrawn is setting up will just be for the books. On 9/12/2018 at 8:52 AM, Beech27 said: So, here's a thing: I've read the two Thrawn novels, and--though the names are different--it really does look like the EU is setting up another warlike alien race from *waves hands* way over there that might get around to trying to conquer the galaxy when its narratively convenient. This was probably inevitable, insofar as threats must escalate in franchises--so you go from a force that wants to control the galaxy to one that basically just wants to kill everyone in it--but I'm not terribly interested in it. I think Star Wars would benefit from more intimate stakes, for the near future, but that was probably never gonna happen. What is this warlike race that is in the waiting? I assume its not the Chiss you're thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, Eivion said: I've only read the mini-series comic based on the first Thrawn novel, but I suspect whatever Thrawn is setting up will just be for the books. What is this warlike race that is in the waiting? I assume its not the Chiss you're thinking of. Spoiler Nope. It’s the Grysks, very similar to the Yuuzhan Vong, only without biotech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 9/6/2018 at 7:38 AM, Craig H said: No, I think you're right. It's so easy to divide people, so why not divide them over this shit as well. I certainly thought about this being the result of troll factories or 4chan/8chan. It certainly passes the sniff test with how ridiculous it is. To many of us, hell, probably all of us, we can look at this garbage like trying to start a re-make TLJ movement complete with shitty logo and see that this is too ridiculous to believe unless you're a rube so of course a bunch of people would fall for it and let it divide them. That's been the M.O. for troll factories and 4chan/8chan for awhile now. It's fucking weird that we live in the greatest age of information where nearly all information, accurate information is available from the palm of your hand and yet so many fall for the trap. Dumb, unreasonable outrage mobs aren't isolated to nerdy geeks or the 4chan crowd. So I can't agree with any of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 11 hours ago, Beech27 said: Hide contents Nope. It’s the Grysks, very similar to the Yuuzhan Vong, only without biotech. Spoiler Kind of surprising they didn't just using the Yuuzhan Vong. Don't know too much about them, but it seems a bit wasteful to use an entirely new race instead of just altering the Vong a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 9/13/2018 at 4:09 PM, TheVileOne said: Dumb, unreasonable outrage mobs aren't isolated to nerdy geeks or the 4chan crowd. So I can't agree with any of this. Dumb, unreasonable outrage mobs are as old as recorded history. The ability to mobilize one from a distance in a highly targeted, calculated manner is at an all-time high. You’re free to gleen from that what you will. Not enjoying the movie isn’t a crime. Though the strength of the movement and specificity of the criticism does warrant some thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarl Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Man, fuck the haters. Solo is a damn good movie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 3 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Dumb, unreasonable outrage mobs are as old as recorded history. The ability to mobilize one from a distance in a highly targeted, calculated manner is at an all-time high. You’re free to gleen from that what you will. Not enjoying the movie isn’t a crime. Though the strength of the movement and specificity of the criticism does warrant some thought. I mean if you're suggesting to take away social media rights...I'm on board with that. Anything to get rid of Facebook and Twitter. And Instagram and Snap Chat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Sheldon Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 On 9/14/2018 at 10:50 PM, TheVileOne said: I mean if you're suggesting to take away social media rights...I'm on board with that. Anything to get rid of Facebook and Twitter. And Instagram and Snap Chat. Or you could just delete and never use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat and Insta all have redeeming values, Reddit does not. Reddit is also the only one of those things that intrudes on discussions outside of their own platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, Travis Sheldon said: Or you could just delete and never use them. Or you could have never been on them in the first place, like the really smart people weren't. Alternatively, delete your account and then insist you never had one. Then reinstate it as a Dixie Carter creeper account when you think nobody's watching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, AxB said: Or you could have never been on them in the first place, like the really smart people weren't. Alternatively, delete your account and then insist you never had one. Then reinstate it as a Dixie Carter creeper account when you think nobody's watching And make sure you name yourself the nickname you constantly used when referring to the Bulls former HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 To the surprise of no one - Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that an annual Star Wars movie is over. Quote “I made the timing decision, and as I look back, I think the mistake that I made — I take the blame — was a little too much, too fast. You can expect some slowdown, but that doesn’t mean we’re not gonna make films. We are just at the point where we’re gonna start making decisions about what comes next after [Episode IX]. But I think we’re gonna be a little bit more careful about volume and timing. And the buck stops here on that.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Perhaps with a longer lead time they can get away from unused McQuarrie/others pre-production sketches as design ideas for the new movies. It was a cost/time saving measure on the first Abrams movie, but they've continued it going forward and it shows they're basically trying to squeeze as much money out of it as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Hopefully this does not kill the Boba Fett movie. But its the right decision to slow down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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