Matt D Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, OSJ said: I'll sign off on this... 1970s Buddy Rose in Portland/Seattle was amazing before his weight ballooned and he was still damn good after that. Johnny Valentine was in a league of his own, he never held the big belt because he was such a volatile personality they had no idea what he might do. (Yes, you can read "crazy" for "volatile personality" if ya want). He's one of the very few of any era that incorporated absolutely everything you wanted in a pro wrestler, there will likely never be another quite like him. In the modern world, a guy like Johnny Valentine would never get a shot to main event anything, promoters would be too distrustful (and perhaps, rightly so). None of us have the luxuries you did. We don't have the Tuesday night shows, only the Saturday night ones, but we do have those and that means we get to see Buddy in an Arena setting against a bevy of opponents on a week to week basis and there are very few people we have in that same sort of scenario. The point of comparison I'd make was how Buddy could somehow retain the aura of being dangerous, of being able to really hurt someone, of being able to hit that Robinson backbreaker and score a fall out of nowhere, despite being such an obvious ham. I think part of the benefit there was the booking and how he was protected, but I honestly think so much of it was due to the 2/3 fall nature of Portland. It meant that in every match, against every opponent, no matter how tough, Buddy was going to be scoring a fall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I'm wondering why they never put the world title on Valentine. Everyone who wrestled in the 60s and 70s were total psychos. Mid-Atlantic trusted him enough that they changed their whole style of wrestling to accommodate him and he seemed pretty stable until the plane crash. Of course, that was later in his career so maybe he was no longer the psycho's psycho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 For those who don't follow New Footage Fridays, we did this one a while ago: It has the original Dan Kroffat too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Speaking of Playboy Buddy Rose, this just popped up in my feed. Rose is fucking awesome in this, z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 hours ago, DEAN said: I'm wondering why they never put the world title on Valentine. Everyone who wrestled in the 60s and 70s were total psychos. Mid-Atlantic trusted him enough that they changed their whole style of wrestling to accommodate him and he seemed pretty stable until the plane crash. Of course, that was later in his career so maybe he was no longer the psycho's psycho. If even a quarter of the Johnny V. stories that have circulated over the years are true, most promoters were just terrified of what he might do as a lark, not to mention what he might do if he were actually pissed off about something. I fully agree that a goodly portion of the wrestlers in the 1960s and 1970s would likely have been locked up somewhere were it not for their in-ring careers, but Johnny V. even managed to stand out from the pack in that regard as well, yes, the psycho's psycho pretty much sums it up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, DEAN said: Speaking of Playboy Buddy Rose, this just popped up in my feed. Rose is fucking awesome in this, z Damn, Buddy Rose was great in his prime, even well past it he was pretty damn good. When he turned face after years of being the most hated heel in Portland you could hear the shouts and cheers from Portland all the way to Seattle, there wasn't anything approaching a pop like that until Roddy Piper turned Art Barr into Beetlejuice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Crane Yu is in the match but Dump steals the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) I had no idea Tommy Young was on RAW in 1998, and he busts out his classic screwy finish. Edited June 9, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 This is... uh... pretty good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Barry Windham was 1975 John Buscema Conan the Barbarian. Steve Austin is a giant magic snake. Yes, O Prince, his matches are filled with mirth and melancholy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 That ~30 minute Windham/Murdoch match on the Mid-South set that is entirely based around Windham clowning Murdoch with a wrist lock is one of the smartest, best worked matches I've ever seen. Those two were perfect for each other. Murdoch brought the colourful personality and chickenshit heel tactics while Barry brought the straight-laced babyface fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, Oyaji said: That ~30 minute Windham/Murdoch match on the Mid-South set that is entirely based around Windham clowning Murdoch with a wrist lock is one of the smartest, best worked matches I've ever seen. Those two were perfect for each other. Murdoch brought the colourful personality and chickenshit heel tactics while Barry brought the straight-laced babyface fire. According to Windham's shoot interview, he learned how to work by refereeing Murdock matches. Which is awesome. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Hulk Hogan & Sid Justice vs. Ric Flair & The Undertaker - WWF Saturday Night's Main Event: February 8, 1992 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, GetDown said: Hulk Hogan & Sid Justice vs. Ric Flair & The Undertaker - WWF Saturday Night's Main Event: February 8, 1992 Man, Brutus could rock women's stripper gear like nobody's business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I remember watching that Windham/Murdoch match on TV and, boy howdy, does it stand up to the test of time. Whindham - plucky, strong, spirited, and Murdoch - dastardly, experienced, tenacious, are two of my all time favorites. This is a classroom on the different ways to throw and sell punches. No wonder my standards are high. - RAF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Watch this just for Rotundo's mustache. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/6/2019 at 2:01 AM, DEAN said: Yeah, I was thinking Brazos but that might just be a thousand second generation nephews. Update from the other day Forgot about Jimmy Golden's son being a wrestler. Should have known there would be a fourth generation Welch family member. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I haven't watched this match in like 20 years. Terry Funk is crazy, in case you forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 That has to have been on the PR '80s set, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Harley Race doing what an NWA champion does. In Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 went back to watch these after listening to Ron discuss it on Fuller’s pod today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, odessasteps said: went back to watch these after listening to Ron discuss it on Fuller’s pod today. International Wrestling tv was shown in Toronto back then...I vividly remember watching this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Les Kellett vs Leon Arras. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Ah! Missed this Johnny Valentine vs Jack Brisco match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCU-Y2cNDww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I’m watching some 84 Mid South TV and realized the MX vs PYT match was a battle of 2 former teams with new partners against each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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