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27 minutes ago, Michael Sweetser said:

Question: When/how did Iizuka stop being a straight wrestler and become.. y'know, Iizuka?

well jokingly I was going to say when Scott Steiner dropped him on his head at WrestleWar. but by the mid-00s, maybe even earlier - he was a concussion wreck, which explains why he just does not take a single bump ever. Inoki tried to push him as a legit sambo guy (LOOOOL) but it didn't work so he changed his gimmick in 2008 to what we have now but he was on that path for a while. sure he's 51 but I've honestly never seen him even take a proper breakfall drop from a strike.

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10 minutes ago, sevendaughters said:

well jokingly I was going to say when Scott Steiner dropped him on his head at WrestleWar. but by the mid-00s, maybe even earlier - he was a concussion wreck, which explains why he just does not take a single bump ever. Inoki tried to push him as a legit sambo guy (LOOOOL) but it didn't work so he changed his gimmick in 2008 to what we have now but he was on that path for a while. sure he's 51 but I've honestly never seen him even take a proper breakfall drop from a strike.

Thanks for the info, and that makes sense.  Bumping sucks - I'm personally lucky I came out of my career as well as I did, especially considering some of the utterly stupidly stiff ref bumps I took early on, and my back and neck still bother me on a daily basis.  I can't imagine how some of these guys still work at their age.

I love Iizuka.  When it's just a few guys doing gimmicks like his, they stand out in a good way.  

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Didn't Iizuka turn heel on Tenzan and begin devolving into the madman character he is today? 

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2 hours ago, Infinit said:

Didn't Iizuka turn heel on Tenzan and begin devolving into the madman character he is today? 

Yeah, it was a GBH thing. 

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Kea pinned Suwama today in the RWTL opening. Hoping that means he's gonna stick around for awhile. If he's in good shape and working hard he could have an awesome late-career run in AJPW right now. 

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Surprisingly good numbers claimed for that AJ show, too (2000+).

When did Kea stop doing the surfing suplex and his original Hawaiian Smasher? Both looked legit painful, so I’m not surprised he doesn’t do ‘em anymore.

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I think the only beating I've ever seen Iizuka take was that five minute G1 match against Nakamura where he kicked the shit out of him and he legit ran away.

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Iizuka had his brain smashed in by Mitsuya Nagai and missed a whole shit ton of time and when he came back was just another guy. Then the Tenzan angle happened and he became the wacky psycho he is now and evolved more over time with it.

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The knee strike he took from Nagai in that injury match is worth the bajillion bumps he never took afterward upon his return. 

Also not sure when exactly Kea switched up his moveset but he got another significant pin today. Also TAJIRI and KAI are winning all their matches in under 5 minutes. KAI is the hardest guy to figure out in the Japanese freelance scene. Went from junior daredevil goof to half-assed Tanahashi clone to random heel-ish generic indie guy. This tournament is loads more interesting than it's sister tournament currently going on in New Japan. 

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Great Kabuki says his is retiring

The 12/22 NOAH show will be his last show

The show is now titled "KABUKI THE FINAL"

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Mil Mascaras can be his last opponent.

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I have dreams that can never happen. But one of them is that McMahon would bring in Suwama and give him his own heel mouthpiece manager and feud him with Lesnar for the belt. 

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"Big Match" Suwama is one of the best things in pro wrestling, period.  At the very least, I would like to see him be invited to the Tokyo Dome before he starts breaking down, so yeah, preferably sooner than later.  I have realistically low expectations of that, though.  

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Yeah I was thinking of that one, too. Him and Ishii in the Dome would tear the place apart. 

EDIT: Or him and EVIL. Or even Goto, or, like, Elgin. I think he still "owes" Tanahashi a job for the 2008 Carny final, no? That would be a hell of a rematch ten years after the fact. 

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This is probably a stupid question but have AJ and NJ ever had a working relationship, even after Inoki stepped down and Baba died? 

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New Japan and All Japan worked extensively after the NOAH exodus.

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there was that Pro Wrestling LOVE show that had NOAH, AJPW, and NJPW guys on one card in 2012 I think. Main event was Tanahashi-Makabe and Akiyama-Kea and they mainly did mixed tags. 40th anniversary. think this followed on from some charity shows the three did in 2011.

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What Belgian Waffle is referring to is a significant example of the All Japan/New Japan working relationship, that being Tanahashi's 2008 Champion Carnival run, which was AMAZING due to Tanahashi going full-fledged heel, essentially doing what Cena has still yet to do, if only briefly.  The Suwama-Tanahashi match was an absolute blast to watch, really nasty and heated, or at least it seemed that way at the time.  Worth a look.  

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I thought Tanahashi was in the middle of contract negotiations with New Japan at that point, and as such was technically a free agent?

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I really wish someone would tell Ospreay he doesn't need to scream like he's being stabbed in the face when he's selling.

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1 hour ago, Beech27 said:

I thought Tanahashi was in the middle of contract negotiations with New Japan at that point, and as such was technically a free agent?

Wow, interesting.  I had never heard that before until now.  Surprising to think New Japan would let that happen, but then again, 2008, and the mid-2000s in general in Japan were quite a bit wacky in that regard.  

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7 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

It must be a complete blindspot for me. What were some prominent matches?

Well, that Sasaki/Kawada non-Title Dome match happened:

 

 

 

I should probably get around to rewatching that Dr. Death/Norton match from the same card, since I don't remember it.

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*slaps forehead* How could I forget about one of my favorite puro matches of all time?

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