hammerva Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Wasn't Ryback something like $3000 for an indie appearance? If it is close to that then I can Swagger doing the same thing. While I bet he likes to still wrestle he doesn't LIKE to wrestle in the same way guys like Cody Rhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 That Chip Day/Trevor Lee match is well worth watching. It had some of the current big match tropes but I thought it all worked and made sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I need to find time for it at some point. (which is saying a lot from me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Lee/Day was indeed pretty great. Thanks for the heads up @RandomAct! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 12 hours ago, Charlie M. said: That Chip Day/Trevor Lee match is well worth watching. It had some of the current big match tropes but I thought it all worked and made sense. I would be very happy to never see that "two guys stand in the middle of the ring, politely taking turns throwing strikes at each other" spot again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobholly138 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 22 hours ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: What's the usual for an ex-WWE midcarder? in 2013 Viscera was wanting 2000 CHris masters wanted 750 plus trans in 2013 Matt Hardy was asking 1000 plus trans plus a meal at the nearest Popeye's Chicken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian Rudo Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 10 hours ago, bobholly138 said: in 2013 Viscera was wanting 2000 CHris masters wanted 750 plus trans in 2013 Matt Hardy was asking 1000 plus trans plus a meal at the nearest Popeye's Chicken They usually start out charging a lot, and then as they lose the novelty the price gradually comes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 What's that old adage "no one really retires in wrestling, they just out price themselves"? 4 grand from a promoter every so often can pay for one's of MMA training camps preparing for a Bellator debut, Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Does anyone know who won Chikara's "Infinite Gauntlet" tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 It's not until next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/27/2017 at 2:50 PM, hammerva said: Wasn't Ryback something like $3000 for an indie appearance? If it is close to that then I can Swagger doing the same thing. While I bet he likes to still wrestle he doesn't LIKE to wrestle in the same way guys like Cody Rhodes Ryback had a lot more presence on TV than Swagger in the last 3-4 years. Swagger was in a midcard tag team, had one program with Rusev, and then got relegated to Main Event. Basically patriotism and ankle locks spots are things that lots of indy wrestlers can replicate, replicating Ryback is trickier - or at least involves a very large account with 'Scott' at the gym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Sugar Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Former fed guys can and will ask for the moon if you let them; it's money-mark promoters that let them get away with it. I run a smaller town with a small budget in a smallish arena and while I used to bring "name" talent in when I started promoting in 2011, I stopped back in 2015 because I just wasn't getting anything back on the investment. I recently saw some Impact guys that never make it off the Xplosion tapings make big-money demands (not in the thousands, but still: these guys expecting more than $100 a night because they're on a show almost nobody in Canada watches is fucking bullshit), and when other promoters balked they immediately offered to slash their PO demands. In reality, many of these guys do NOT want to wrestle a lot anymore--the travel is often one of the main reasons they ask for their WWE release--but it's often the only thing they know how to do to feed their families. Guys like Gangrel are very reasonable, especially when you can work with local promoters to string together several dates or are guaranteeing them a booking every month, while some guys are difficult because...hey, you want them to come to you, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 14 hours ago, Linus said: It's not until next week. The hell am I thinking?! Thanks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Went the full ***** on White Mike vs Chuck Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valcourt Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 CWF is about an hour and half from where I live. I need to get to their live shows when I return home. Was hoping that was the "real" Chuck Taylor... Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Idk what you mean, that is the real Chuck Taylor Seriously though, if you ever come down, let me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just saw on Maryland Championship Wrestling's Twitter that Jack Swagger will on their June 9th show. Jeff Cobb will be there too, idk if they are wrestling each other but they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 A motivated Swagger against Cobb would quite easily get me to go. I will go anyway because Cobb will be there, but that matchup would be the proverbial cherry on top. And while they only announced two matches so far, one of them has Steve Anthony vs. Bestia 666. Seems like a random addition to the show, but I'm cool with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I'm not sure "motivated Jack Swagger" is an actual thing that exists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, mattdangerously said: I'm not sure "motivated Jack Swagger" is an actual thing that exists. I've seen it. It was 10 or 11 years ago at an OVW house show, but I've seen it. Fairly certain he was doing his best to impress not just the trainers and bookers, but also his lady friend that picked up his ring jacket after the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 He seemed motivated against Rey at MITB '10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 Speaking of Swagger - he is also facing Michael Elgin in AAW at the end of the month And they do poke fun at the whole "Artist Formerly Known As" thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Swagger/Cobb and Swagger/Elgin are two hoss battles that sound awesome. And what is up with Elgin's eyes? I had a friend that got ice kicked into his eye playing soccer when we were kids and it made it look like that, he wore a contact after that to even them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I guess Swagger is getting bookings, so somebody's paying that fee. Heard that Ryan Drago/Simon Gotch is asking $1,500. Lol. I like the guys' work, but Ryan Drago definitely wasn't getting $1,500 to work FIP before signing with the WWE. And Gotch's name value as an ex-WWE guy seems like it would be minimal to nonexistent. More power to him if he can get booked at that price, but it seems like bringing in a Ryback, Swagger, or Christian at $3 or $4 k a date would be a better return on your investment. I can see Swagger and Ryback selling a few more tickets or DVDs for a promoter. Not sure anyone is going to buy a show for Gotch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Sugar Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Gotch should be asking for 300-400, tops. Gangrel charges 600-1000 but will cut deals if he works multiple dates in a row. I use him as an example because to this day he is still crazy-over and despite being almost 50 he goes out there and busts his ass in the ring, keeping pace (and even outpacing) guys half his age. Gotch did very little in the WWE but a promoter can slap "former WWE star" on the poster and maybe bump up attendance a little... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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