jstout Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I've been wondering why Sinclair doesn't just fold ROH into NJPW - you could get TV shows for free from NJPW with a huge library and not have to pay the cost of producing TV anymore. NJPW could use Sinclair's TV to run more shows in America, with some big-name NJPW talent and the rest being castoffs from ROH. Sinclair could even sell the ROH video library to WWE in that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 9 hours ago, mattdangerously said: Cody is pretty clearly the least of the Rhodes family, but I think y'all might have him confused with Ted Dibiase. He's not this bad. Cody is a good worker, he's just not great and he looks bad athletically compared to most top workers. He's in an era which doesn't play well to his strengths. His ideal world would have been as a foil to Jerry Lawler or half of a heel tag team in the 80s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I gave the ROH PPV a shot after not seeing them for a very long time - I literally cannot remember the last full card of theirs I watched. I somehow hadn't seen Dalton Castle or Silas Young up till now, but they're both awesome. The rest of the show... no. Not for me. And seriously some of the worst commentary I've heard in a long fucking time. Every annoying trick Cole and JBL do, they did and even more often. Should've just muted it and been done with it. To me, Cody doesn't have "it". I think WWE used him at the level he had earned at that point - he didn't inherit his father's charisma and his promos come across very forced to me. It feels like he's playing the character of a pro wrestler, rather than being a pro wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Hell Cody is the least of any guy named Rhhodes in wrestling I can think of. I'd rather watch a Dirty Rhodes match than a Cody Rhodes match James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Michael Sweetser said: To me, Cody doesn't have "it". I think WWE used him at the level he had earned at that point - he didn't inherit his father's charisma and his promos come across very forced to me. It feels like he's playing the character of a pro wrestler, rather than being a pro wrestler. This sums it up for me. I don't particularly dislike Cody, but I don't usually feel like watching his matches either. He's perfectly decent in most aspects - decent promo, decent in-ring, etc. - but I feel like he lacks the audience connection show. I actually kinda preferred him in WWE. In Japan and the indys, he comes across as a kinda bland ex-WWE guy to me. I feel like I should watch his match, but there's probably at least half a dozen guys on the card I'd prefer to see and his match ends up being middling no matter how good it is. His social media stuff makes him seem like an interesting personality who gets pro wrestling in a way a lot of guys don't, but somehow that doesn't translate to his actual wrestling for me. I kinda feel sorry for Bullet Club Japan having to be associated with Bullet Club ROH, which seems seriously low on star power. And Bullet Club proper includes Tama Tonga and King Fale as lifetime members, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Outside of Omega, Bullet Club is low on star power, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Young Bucks are big draws as far as indie wrestlers go. I can't think of any bigger US indie draw right now. They also have the personality and charisma of (modern) stars. The Elite nickname is pretty appropriate when it comes to the Bucks and Kenny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 There was a brief convo on Cabana's podcast about how huge the Bucks are and how their line for the meet and greet was just as long as the one to get into the arena. Part of that is going to be the novelty of seeing them in Australia, but even the fact they can get that many fans in a country they don't often visit is pretty incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Speaking of Cody, what's the deal with his "Wrestling has more than one royal family" intro. Who's the other royal family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 48 minutes ago, Oyaji said: Young Bucks are big draws as far as indie wrestlers go. I can't think of any bigger US indie draw right now. They also have the personality and charisma of (modern) stars. The Elite nickname is pretty appropriate when it comes to the Bucks and Kenny. I think Marty has potential to get to that level, even if he makes most of this board cringe in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 59 minutes ago, Oyaji said: Young Bucks are big draws as far as indie wrestlers go. I can't think of any bigger US indie draw right now. They also have the personality and charisma of (modern) stars. The Elite nickname is pretty appropriate when it comes to the Bucks and Kenny. The only major promotion that's ever treated them like a big deal is ROH, and they're barely relevant these days. The Bucks are big fishes in a tiny pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 34 minutes ago, caley said: Speaking of Cody, what's the deal with his "Wrestling has more than one royal family" intro. Who's the other royal family? Flair's? Hart's? McMahon's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacelle Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Jack Victory & Rip Morgan 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Flair's? Hart's? McMahon's? A quick Twitter scan leads to people thinking it's some sort of dig at Triple H/Stephanie McMahon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Its nice to see people finally understanding that Cody was kind of mediocre and perfectly placed in WWE. It was never that they didn't want to do more with him, he just never proved he could be more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstout Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 We all wanted to believe he was actually really good and The Man was holding him down - it'd make for a great story - but he's absolutely nothing special at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I think we all wanted Cody to be the next Dusty or Dustin but instead he's simply "okay". At least that's my issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 My bigger issue is ROH having basically no believable world title contenders. They almost had no choice, but to put the belt on Cody. Dalton Castle should have been the one to beat Christopher Daniels. We've seen Delirious is piss poor at building new talent. Where does ROH go after Cody; another Jay Briscoe or Jay Lethal reign? Dalton Castle after his momentum has died? Imagine if ROH didn't let Donovan Dijak, ACH, Lio Rush, Keith Lee, Jason Kincaid go. Why is Joe Koff so loyal to Delirious? I think this is the answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Everybody Suddenly Cares About Cody Again. (It'll pass.) Meanwhile, what becomes of War Machine? New Japan full time or NXT bound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 If War Machine are nxt bound, we're going to be in for some fun hoss fights between them, AoP, Heavy Machinery, and Sanity. War Machine and ReDRagon would be nice to fill the void left by TM61 and DIY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Last I heard it was just Rowe going to NXT. Has there been news of Hansen joining him? I don't see much in Rowe as a singles competitor but would love to see War Machine tear it up in the tag division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I like War Machine but besides their look they are really just a more experienced/safer version of Heavy Machinery and Authors of Pain. They won't work as singles guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Rowe is fine working singles. There's more value in him as a package with Hanson, but he spent a lot of time working singles pre-War Machine, and was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 AIW he won their big Tournament several years ago and feuded with Gargano as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricG Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 23 hours ago, mattdangerously said: Rowe is fine working singles. There's more value in him as a package with Hanson, but he spent a lot of time working singles pre-War Machine, and was good. Yep. He can work a variety of guys, too, and make it work. His match last year vs. Tommy End in AIW is one of the best matches I've seen live, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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