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12 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

@J.T. forgot to mention Justin Long is a key character in Live Free or Die Hard.  That right there is enough to call it one of the worst sequels ever.

Not even hot, blonde Maggie Q 

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could offset the awfulness of Justin Long, especially when Mai dies early in the movie.

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Verhoeven's ELLE was a great time. 

I was there with a bunch of old people. One lady had her feet up on the seat in front of her. I fucking hate this. Get your goddamn filthy shoes off the place where people's heads rest. Some body is going to sit there eventually and their hair is going to be sitting on top of the crust from your muddy shoes. It's not your fucking house. You fucking savages.

Another woman just started talking during the opening credits. The lady with her feet on the headrest yelled "THE MOVIE HAS CLEARLY STARTED. SHUT UP." Then the raping started and everyone got real quiet.

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Hidden Figures is probably going to test the drawing power of the new xXx joint and Split.

xXx:  State of the Union was a fairly maligned movie, so I am fairly surprised that the thing that will put asses in seats is a Darius Stone appearance.

Never underestimate the street cred of Ice Cube.

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Exquisite? That word makes it sound dirty.

If anyone is on the fence, get off it and watch MORRIS FROM AMERICA.

Craig Robinson is great and the chemistry and between him and the kid playing his son is phenomenal. Their relationship just feels so real. It's a really nice coming of age story that features some moments that hit a little to close to home for me. I was pissed when it ended because I enjoyed the characters so much. It's on Amazon Prime right now.

 

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18 minutes ago, jaedmc said:

Exquisite? That word makes it sound dirty.

If anyone is on the fence, get off it and watch MORRIS FROM AMERICA.

Craig Robinson is great and the chemistry and between him and the kid playing his son is phenomenal. Their relationship just feels so real. It's a really nice coming of age story that features some moments that hit a little to close to home for me. I was pissed when it ended because I enjoyed the characters so much. It's on Amazon Prime right now.

 

Yeah, this one was great. 

The cassette tape scene was goddamn hilarious. That scene would be so cliche in other films like this, but it was anything but that.

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7 hours ago, J.T. said:

Hidden Figures is probably going to test the drawing power of the new xXx joint and Split.

xXx:  State of the Union was a fairly maligned movie, so I am fairly surprised that the thing that will put asses in seats is a Darius Stone appearance.

Never underestimate the street cred of Ice Cube.

In this movie...do you think he'll have to use his AK?

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'Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates' was an excruciatingly unfunny mess.  When I sat down to watch it, I thought "Well Anna Kendrick is okay.  Aubrey Plaza can be funny.  Zac Ephron was good in the 'Neighbors' movies.  Sam Richardson is amazing on 'Veep'.  And Adam DeVine is funny"  I've realized since that Adam DeVine is not funny.  Now, I've never really watched 'Workaholics' (Caught an episode or two out of order and didn't really stick with it), but I looked up DeVine's filmography and I've never enjoyed him in anything.  It was a moment of epiphany.  Also, if I'd known it was "Based on a true story" about a "viral Craig's List post", I also would have stayed far away.  It was free (Got it from the library), but that doesn't make it good.

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Say the new XXX this afternoon. It was pretty good. But it felt more like an alternative adventures of the Fast and Furious movie than a XXX sequel. It's like Vin has decided that he's only going to be part of an ensemble cast in all of his movies now, instead of being the 'name above the title' only star of the movie thing. And a lot of it was that whole "You mess with one of us, you're messing with all of us" deal from F&F, only they never actually said the word Family at any point. But it had the whole 'international racial diversity' with added porno-sexual politics (all women are assumed to be bisexual except the women who are just sexy lesbians; No men are anything but straight) and they made sure to remind us that Vin likes Game of Thrones by casting someone from that (It was the Hound this time).

Cube was barely in it. Neymar might have had more screen time, and he barely had any.

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3 hours ago, caley said:

'Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates' was an excruciatingly unfunny mess.  When I sat down to watch it, I thought "Well Anna Kendrick is okay.  Aubrey Plaza can be funny.  Zac Ephron was good in the 'Neighbors' movies.  Sam Richardson is amazing on 'Veep'.  And Adam DeVine is funny"  I've realized since that Adam DeVine is not funny.  Now, I've never really watched 'Workaholics' (Caught an episode or two out of order and didn't really stick with it), but I looked up DeVine's filmography and I've never enjoyed him in anything.  It was a moment of epiphany.  Also, if I'd known it was "Based on a true story" about a "viral Craig's List post", I also would have stayed far away.  It was free (Got it from the library), but that doesn't make it good.

I remember when Devine was on Modern Family(I gave up watching that piece of shit a few years ago), and have hated him ever since. Those commercials he is on right now are horrible. . . .

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23 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Yeah, this one was great. 

The cassette tape scene was goddamn hilarious. That scene would be so cliche in other films like this, but it was anything but that.

"Source Awards? Is that as far as I get in your dreams? "  OK, that line slayed me. Gonna have to watch this one. 

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It's been quite a while, probably since 2014, where I had a real interest in film and here's a sort of resolution/shame list that I want to check out:

 

1.    12 Years a Slave [2013]
2.    Adjust Your Tracking [2013]
3.    Amer [2009]
4.    The Autopsy of Jane Doe [2016]
5.    Baker County USA [1982]
6.    Ballad of Gregorio Cortez [1982]
7.    Baskin [2016]
8.    Beyond the Darkness [1980]
9.    Beyond the Gates [2016]
10.    The Blood on Satan's Claw [1971]
11.    Bloody Birthday [1981]
12.    Bullet In The Head [1990]
13.    Cape Fear [1991]
14.    The Church [1989]
15.    Cigarette Burns [2005]
16.    Conquest [1983]
17.    Cowboy Bebop: The Movie [2001]
18.    Cut Throats Nine [1972]
19.    The Dance of Reality [2013]
20.    Day of Anger [1967]
21.    Dead of Night [1945]
22.    Deadly Blessing [1981]
23.    The Decline of Western Civilization [1981]
24.    The Drop [2014]
25.    Empire Records [1995]
26.    Everybody Wants Some!! [2016]
27.    Evil Dead Trap [1988]
28.    The Exterminator [1980]
29.    Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! [1965]
30.    Fight For Your Life [1977]
31.    Final Score [1986]
32.    Get Carter [1971]
33.    Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence [2004]
34.    Glory Stompers [1968]
35.    Gone in Sixty Seconds [1974]
36.    The Greasy Strangler [2016]
37.    Hammerhead [1987]
38.    The Handmaiden [2016]
39.    Heavy Traffic [1973]
40.    Hobo with a Shotgun [2011]
41.    Intruder [1989]
42.    The Invitation [2016]
43.    The Iron Giant [1999]
44.    Kansas City Confidential [1952]
45.    The Killer [1989]
46.    King of Comedy [1983]
47.    The Last Movie [1971]
48.    The Long Good Friday [1980]
49.    The Love Witch [2016]
50.    Magic [1978]
51.    Master of the Flying Guillotine [1977]
52.    Maximum Overdrive [1986]
53.    The Monster Squad [1987]
54.    The Nickel Ride [1974]
55.    Night Moves [1975]
56.    The Night Porter [1974]
57.    One False Move [1992]
58.    Parole Violators [1994]
59.    Perfect Blue [1997]
60.    Phantasm II [1988]
61.    Phantom Raiders [1988]
62.    Phenomena [1985]
63.    Prince of the City [1981]
64.    Psycho III [1986]
65.    Rituals [1977]
66.    Secretary [2002]
67.    The Shallows [2016]
68.    Shivers [1975]
69.    Snowtown [2011]
70.    Society [1989]
71.    Species [1995]
72.    The Spiral Staircase [1946]
73.    Stage Fright [1987]
74.    Street Trash [1987]
75.    Supervixens [1975]
76.    T-Force [1994]
77.    Tales of Halloween [2015]
78.    They Call Me Trinity [1970]
79.    To the Devil a Daughter [1976]
80.    Tokyo Godfathers [2003]
81.    The Tree of Wooden Clogs [1978]
82.    The Visitor [1979]
83.    The Wailing [2016]
84.    Wake in Fright [1971]
85.    Wanted Dead or Alive [1987]
86.    Wolf Lake [1980]
87.    The Yakuza [1974]

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10 hours ago, caley said:

'Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates' was an excruciatingly unfunny mess.  When I sat down to watch it, I thought "Well Anna Kendrick is okay.  Aubrey Plaza can be funny.  Zac Ephron was good in the 'Neighbors' movies.  Sam Richardson is amazing on 'Veep'.  And Adam DeVine is funny"  I've realized since that Adam DeVine is not funny.  Now, I've never really watched 'Workaholics' (Caught an episode or two out of order and didn't really stick with it), but I looked up DeVine's filmography and I've never enjoyed him in anything.  It was a moment of epiphany.  Also, if I'd known it was "Based on a true story" about a "viral Craig's List post", I also would have stayed far away.  It was free (Got it from the library), but that doesn't make it good.

Workaholics is not funny.  I don't really get what people like about it.

4 hours ago, New Blood said:

It's been quite a while, probably since 2014, where I had a real interest in film and here's a sort of resolution/shame list that I want to check out:

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1.    12 Years a Slave [2013]
2.    Adjust Your Tracking [2013]
3.    Amer [2009]
4.    The Autopsy of Jane Doe [2016]
5.    Baker County USA [1982]
6.    Ballad of Gregorio Cortez [1982]
7.    Baskin [2016]
8.    Beyond the Darkness [1980]
9.    Beyond the Gates [2016]
10.    The Blood on Satan's Claw [1971]
11.    Bloody Birthday [1981]
12.    Bullet In The Head [1990]
13.    Cape Fear [1991]
14.    The Church [1989]
15.    Cigarette Burns [2005]
16.    Conquest [1983]
17.    Cowboy Bebop: The Movie [2001]
18.    Cut Throats Nine [1972]
19.    The Dance of Reality [2013]
20.    Day of Anger [1967]
21.    Dead of Night [1945]
22.    Deadly Blessing [1981]
23.    The Decline of Western Civilization [1981]
24.    The Drop [2014]
25.    Empire Records [1995]
26.    Everybody Wants Some!! [2016]
27.    Evil Dead Trap [1988]
28.    The Exterminator [1980]
29.    Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! [1965]
30.    Fight For Your Life [1977]
31.    Final Score [1986]
32.    Get Carter [1971]
33.    Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence [2004]
34.    Glory Stompers [1968]
35.    Gone in Sixty Seconds [1974]
36.    The Greasy Strangler [2016]
37.    Hammerhead [1987]
38.    The Handmaiden [2016]
39.    Heavy Traffic [1973]
40.    Hobo with a Shotgun [2011]
41.    Intruder [1989]
42.    The Invitation [2016]
43.    The Iron Giant [1999]
44.    Kansas City Confidential [1952]
45.    The Killer [1989]
46.    King of Comedy [1983]
47.    The Last Movie [1971]
48.    The Long Good Friday [1980]
49.    The Love Witch [2016]
50.    Magic [1978]
51.    Master of the Flying Guillotine [1977]
52.    Maximum Overdrive [1986]
53.    The Monster Squad [1987]
54.    The Nickel Ride [1974]
55.    Night Moves [1975]
56.    The Night Porter [1974]
57.    One False Move [1992]
58.    Parole Violators [1994]
59.    Perfect Blue [1997]
60.    Phantasm II [1988]
61.    Phantom Raiders [1988]
62.    Phenomena [1985]
63.    Prince of the City [1981]
64.    Psycho III [1986]
65.    Rituals [1977]
66.    Secretary [2002]
67.    The Shallows [2016]
68.    Shivers [1975]
69.    Snowtown [2011]
70.    Society [1989]
71.    Species [1995]
72.    The Spiral Staircase [1946]
73.    Stage Fright [1987]
74.    Street Trash [1987]
75.    Supervixens [1975]
76.    T-Force [1994]
77.    Tales of Halloween [2015]
78.    They Call Me Trinity [1970]
79.    To the Devil a Daughter [1976]
80.    Tokyo Godfathers [2003]
81.    The Tree of Wooden Clogs [1978]
82.    The Visitor [1979]
83.    The Wailing [2016]
84.    Wake in Fright [1971]
85.    Wanted Dead or Alive [1987]
86.    Wolf Lake [1980]
87.    The Yakuza [1974]

Ooh, I need to make a list like this.  I have a lot of blindspots in my movie-watching.  (I've never seen Shawshank Redemption.  I have owned the DVD for several years, however.)

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Ringu 2: OK, it’s not a patch on the first. The plot is a bit too strange. But I still think it’s a terrific horror film and better than both the American remakes.

It has so many creepy, unsettling moments. Moments that Hollywood blatantly ripped off. (The mortuary scene in The Grudge and the well chase in Ring 2, notably.) Moments that hit you out of nowhere. 

- Miki Nakatani is terrific here. She’s the right combination of niceness, curiosity and the ability to, well, get absolutely hysterical.   

-When you realize just why Tomoko’s friend in the opening scene of the first movie went crazy. Her flashback to that night is absolutely frightening. 

-Mai spotting Shizuko’s ghost. And Shizuko’s ghost spotting her right back…and sneaking up on her.

-The well scene is amazing.

-Even Sadako seems exhausted and tired of all the horror by the end: “Why are you the only one saved?” She’s simply sad now.

-The ending with Kanae makes it clear: This will never end. It’s not even about Sadako anymore.

A chilling, gratifying little follow-up. Cold and very human at the same time. It cleared up some loose ends. 

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Went to see Split last night.  I thought M. Night showed a lot of restraint here.  There are no jump scares, even though there are about six or seven moments that completely could have been, some of which are handled as jump scares in the trailer.  The musical score actually holds off a bit during the movie's climax, where I feel like normally he would have been trying to sell it as a huge moment.  But McAvoy deserves a lot of credit.  With a lesser actor a lot of this would have fallen flat, but he makes it work.  There's some comedic moments with his young boy personality that he nails as well.

Won't say anything about the twist, but there was one point where I thought - and I'm not going to spoiler this because it's not the real twist - that the girls were all blind.  I realized pretty quickly though that that couldn't be it because they'd been peering through a crack in a door to see if McAvoy was coming back earlier on, but that could have gone in some interesting directions.  Like, if the girls couldn't see their captor, and actually thought they were speaking to a whole bunch of different people.

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21 hours ago, New Blood said:

It's been quite a while, probably since 2014, where I had a real interest in film and here's a sort of resolution/shame list that I want to check out:

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1.    12 Years a Slave [2013]
2.    Adjust Your Tracking [2013]
3.    Amer [2009]
4.    The Autopsy of Jane Doe [2016]

I saw some clickbait that said Stephen King liked this as much as Alien, so you and I should probably check it out 


5.    Baker County USA [1982]
6.    Ballad of Gregorio Cortez [1982]
7.    Baskin [2016]

Deranged. Very well worth the watch; the denouement is questionable but everything up to it is very very nasty. 


8.    Beyond the Darkness [1980]

Speaking of deranged! Joe D'Amato was not a good director but he had a way with perversity and this one maxes out on it. Goblin provides their typically great soundtrack skills to something far below their level. 


9.    Beyond the Gates [2016]
10.    The Blood on Satan's Claw [1971]
11.    Bloody Birthday [1981]
12.    Bullet In The Head [1990]
13.    Cape Fear [1991]

Amazing, and very trashy for Scorcese's standards. De Niro as Max Cady is hypnotic and frightening, but the story of the broken marriage smoldering underneath holds everything together. 


14.    The Church [1989]

Wild movie; if you've ever seen Demons or Demons 2 take in mind this was meant to be the third in the series. The goat-Satan thing in it is one of the scariest looking monsters in any movie. 


15.    Cigarette Burns [2005]
16.    Conquest [1983]

You can watch this on Youtube for free right now if you want straight junk food for your eyeballs 


17.    Cowboy Bebop: The Movie [2001]

Anything Cowboy Bebop is awesome so just watch it 


18.    Cut Throats Nine [1972]
19.    The Dance of Reality [2013]
20.    Day of Anger [1967]
21.    Dead of Night [1945]

If you don't watch this I don't know what's wrong with you. One of the best B&W horror films of all time, hands down. 


22.    Deadly Blessing [1981]
23.    The Decline of Western Civilization [1981]

I'm biased as I love every band on this aside from Claude Bessy's (sorry Kickboy, RIP). Watch back to back with Another State of Mind and UK/DK for the full early '80s hardcore punk experience, minus blood loss and bad smells. 


24.    The Drop [2014]

Perfectly dour crime film that goes hand in hand with God's Pocket as movies that 1. are perfectly dour, and 2. have deceased stars in them. This has a little more positivity than God's Pocket, but not much. 


25.    Empire Records [1995]
26.    Everybody Wants Some!! [2016]
27.    Evil Dead Trap [1988]

Bizarre and gory like only Japan can do it 


28.    The Exterminator [1980]

Bitter little downer of a film that I'd like to revisit myself as I haven't seen since I was a kid


29.    Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! [1965]

If I don't see this tonight I'm gonna be pissed


30.    Fight For Your Life [1977]

Also never seen. So sleazy and reprehensible I kind of have to see it


31.    Final Score [1986]
32.    Get Carter [1971]

Fan-fucking-tastic; has a mood cold as a witch's tit in a brass bra. One of Anthony Bourdain's favorite films which I mention because that's how he got it on TCM, where I saw it along with Withnail and I.


33.    Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence [2004]
34.    Glory Stompers [1968]
35.    Gone in Sixty Seconds [1974]
36.    The Greasy Strangler [2016]
37.    Hammerhead [1987]
38.    The Handmaiden [2016]
39.    Heavy Traffic [1973]
40.    Hobo with a Shotgun [2011]

A friend of mine came out of the theater after watching this and derided it for exploiting the homeless. I told him "it's an EXPLOITATION film you idiot, that's what it's supposed to do!" Grisly and very funny. 


41.    Intruder [1989]

Boring. Never made it all the way through.


42.    The Invitation [2016]
43.    The Iron Giant [1999]
44.    Kansas City Confidential [1952]
45.    The Killer [1989]

Better than Hard Boiled. The Christian themes are... strange. But that's Woo for you. 


46.    King of Comedy [1983]

Another I have to see


47.    The Last Movie [1971]
48.    The Long Good Friday [1980]

Another in the list of "if you don't watch this right this moment GTFO". Maybe my favorite crime film of all time. Best performance by both Bob Hoskins and Helen Mirrin, best soundtrack, baffling enough at first to make you want to rewatch it immediately to catch what you missed at first glance then you stick around and it hits you in the head like a hammer. Best final scene in any movie ever. EVER. 


49.    The Love Witch [2016]
50.    Magic [1978]

Creepy as living shit! 


51.    Master of the Flying Guillotine [1977]

Super fun and missing all the seriousness of the other Flying Guillotine movies in favor of crazy fights with crazy characters. I still want El Rey to play this


52.    Maximum Overdrive [1986]

Perfect '80s US B-movie filmmaking. 


53.    The Monster Squad [1987]

I rented this so many times as a kid. "Wolfman's got nards!" Highest recommendation. 


54.    The Nickel Ride [1974]
55.    Night Moves [1975]

This should probably be on the list of underrated classics I saw last year thanks to TCM along with Lady Snowblood. Twisted and twist-y. 


56.    The Night Porter [1974]
57.    One False Move [1992]
58.    Parole Violators [1994]
59.    Perfect Blue [1997]
60.    Phantasm II [1988]

As much as I love the first one I think I might like this better, because I saw it first (recorded it off TV) and it's got the coolest weapons. Ignites the 10-year old in me every time I watch it. 


61.    Phantom Raiders [1988]
62.    Phenomena [1985]

Argento at maybe his most irrational and ridiculous. He throws every goddamned thing including the kitchen sink at the wall not in attempt to see what sticks, but to try and break THROUGH the wall. Which makes it both his nadir and impossible to follow up. Only Tenebrae is better (I'm ignoring Suspiria and Inferno because they belong in their own category). 


63.    Prince of the City [1981]
64.    Psycho III [1986]
65.    Rituals [1977]

Whoa, really good forgotten flick that only King has pimped before. Haven't seen it in years but it was great. 


66.    Secretary [2002]

For your inner pervert


67.    The Shallows [2016]

A friend hated -- HATED -- this, and so did others on the board, so be forewarned. 


68.    Shivers [1975]

Also for your inner pervert


69.    Snowtown [2011]
70.    Society [1989]

Maybe (and we're getting seriously fucked up here) for your inner pervert


71.    Species [1995]

Saw it in the theater as a kid. You can probably pass on this one, definitely not a patch on any Alien film. I'm thinking more AvP level on the scale. 


72.    The Spiral Staircase [1946]
73.    Stage Fright [1987]

Reason #2 as to why Michele Soavi should make another film. Reason #1 is Cemetery Man, of course. One of the best giallo films. 


74.    Street Trash [1987]

Beautifully repulsive and beautifully '80s. Responsible for Hobo with a Shotgun so watch this first. 


75.    Supervixens [1975]
76.    T-Force [1994]
77.    Tales of Halloween [2015]
78.    They Call Me Trinity [1970]
79.    To the Devil a Daughter [1976]
80.    Tokyo Godfathers [2003]
81.    The Tree of Wooden Clogs [1978]
82.    The Visitor [1979]

Have to see this. HAVE to. 


83.    The Wailing [2016]
84.    Wake in Fright [1971]

Also HAVE to see this.


85.    Wanted Dead or Alive [1987]
86.    Wolf Lake [1980]
87.    The Yakuza [1974]

Anyway, that's what I think about some of those. There are a lot of them I really need to see beyond the ones I mentioned, like To Devil A Daughter (The Devil Rides Out was killer). Cheers man, you have great taste, in both good and bad taste!

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