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JANUARY 2017 WRESTLING DISCUSSION


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37 minutes ago, nate said:

I think one of RVD's greatest moments was his comparison of the ECW title to the WWE World Turntable title of the time.  Paraphrasing: "This is the title I'll wear proudly.  And this one ... it spins."

Oh I remember that. Something like"these mean so much to me. This one I worked for for years and I've finally got it. And this one spins."

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2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

Heyman saying he couldn't make talent in time was an excuse for the fact that he had burnt so many people that his heart wasn't in it and he was looking for an escape route, which he found in WWF. His plans were for his bottom line and not anybody else's at the end.

I think this is probably true. If you believe Bruce Prichard, Heyman was in the room when Vince pulled out key members of creative and management and asked them their opinion on purchasing WCW. This was before ECW even filed for bankruptcy. ECW was still putting on it's "final shows" and Heyman was in creative meetings and giving Vince McMahon his opinion on whether or not he should buy WCW - that's kind of crazy to me.

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16 minutes ago, The Nature Boy said:

 I wonder what would've happened if Paul Heyman had managed to find someone like Dixie Carter to sell ECW to. You know, someone who didn't mind losing a ton of money. 

Rhyno Carter III holds the title for 2 years.

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2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

The Tony conversation is reminding me how much Bobby Heenan eviscerated him in his book. Apparently he was always playing politics, though playing politics in WCW if you aren't getting paid not to work was ridiculous, and was a complete asshole. I think Bobby even said he never had dinner with the guy though they worked together for years.

Tony has said that everything Bobby said was true and that he (Tony) was in the wrong during his time with Bobby in WCW. 

Tony is like many people who are announcers for wrestling, they do it as a side gig and it's not their true passion so they burn out quickly. However Turner was paying Tony more than he would make anywhere else and the Braves job was never opening up so he stuck with WCW and was completely miserable.

Though if the rumors are true in the mid-90s the President of WCW was open and the choices were Eric Bischoff and Tony. I wonder what would've happened had Tony gotten the nod and ran WCW pre-Hogan

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3 hours ago, nate said:

I think one of RVD's greatest moments was his comparison of the ECW title to the WWE World Turntable title of the time.  Paraphrasing: "This is the title I'll wear proudly.  And this one ... it spins."

RVD could have been Austin-lite constantly clashing with Authority by simply fucking up whatever their plan was through incompetent actions.

48 minutes ago, The Nature Boy said:

 I wonder what would've happened if Paul Heyman had managed to find someone like Dixie Carter to sell ECW to. You know, someone who didn't mind losing a ton of money. 

I swear Dreamer talked about that almost happening. Paul didn't want to give up his baby was the reason he didn't allegedly.

10 minutes ago, Brysynner said:

I wonder what would've happened had Tony gotten the nod and ran WCW pre-Hogan

Same thing as everyone else before him. Short term and fired. Tony didn't have the magic vision Eric had. They'd have died years earlier. No NWO, no massively profitable years, it would have been a total disaster.

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19 minutes ago, Brysynner said:

Tony has said that everything Bobby said was true and that he (Tony) was in the wrong during his time with Bobby in WCW. 

Tony said during that little Twitter Q&A that he preferred to be in a 2 man booth... unless the 3rd man was Heenan

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11 hours ago, DTTW said:

I swear Dreamer talked about that almost happening. Paul didn't want to give up his baby was the reason he didn't allegedly.

I remember something like that too. Supposedly, Dreamer had buyers lined up to keep ECW running but Heyman decided to sell to Vince instead. 

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So the wife got me an Echo Dot for Hanukkah and last night she (Alexa, not the wife) went nuts during the Smackdown promo since she likes to interpret Alexa Bliss as "Alexa Please." I now have a nightmare scenario of Alexa Bliss buying a Lamborghini on Total Divas.

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9 hours ago, BrianS81177 said:

I remember something like that too. Supposedly, Dreamer had buyers lined up to keep ECW running but Heyman decided to sell to Vince instead. 

At the time it was reported that Vince offered to let ECW keep their show on TNN but Heyman refused. This was also around the same time he was tanking the TNN show to make the syndicated show look better.  The shame of it is, Heyman is well off while the guys who made ECW have to use Gofundme to get surgeries they need.

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PWI has up a blurb on their ELITE~! site that says that Michael Cole wants to move more into the off-camera production side of things and get away from announcing (where he would be helping to groom new announcers and do other things)

No timetable or anything just that there is a lot of talk about him wanting to make the move.

One would assume that if they do it they wouldn't pull the trigger till after Mania

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3 hours ago, RIPPA said:

PWI has up a blurb on their ELITE~! site that says that Michael Cole wants to move more into the off-camera production side of things and get away from announcing (where he would be helping to groom new announcers and do other things)

No timetable or anything just that there is a lot of talk about him wanting to make the move.

One would assume that if they do it they wouldn't pull the trigger till after Mania

I remember when they had that behind-the-scenes thing with NXT featuring Xavier Woods, Adam Rose and Cory Graves and being amazed at how smart Michael Cole sounded while discussing wrestlers and storylines and the like, and combined with people talking about how good he was on the WWE UK stuff on the weekend, I have a feeling in a few months we might be going "Man, I never thought I'd say this, but I miss Michael Cole..."  I kind of think NOBODY can be really good with someone shouting "It's not a belt, GODDAMMIT!" and "Make sure you talk about how much he wants to have fun" over a headset.

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Any Michael Cole interviews (ie: interviews with him as the subject) I've ever heard or read have been fascinating. He's a company man who sells what he's there to sell because it's his job, and that gets held against him far too much IMO. He's always struck me as a pretty righteous dude. 

I'm not sure I'll miss his presence on television if this is the direction he's headed, but I'd love to hear more from him in the future about his time in the company. A Michael Cole autobiography would likely be the only time I'd consider making a wrestling book a day one purchase. 

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5 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said:

Any Michael Cole interviews (ie: interviews with him as the subject) I've ever heard or read have been fascinating. He's a company man who sells what he's there to sell because it's his job, and that gets held against him far too much IMO. He's always struck me as a pretty righteous dude. 

I'm not sure I'll miss his presence on television if this is the direction he's headed, but I'd love to hear more from him in the future about his time in the company. A Michael Cole autobiography would likely be the only time I'd consider making a wrestling book a day one purchase. 

Company men tend to be lousy storytellers. He's not gonna dish dirt.

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So I'm rewatching the 2009 eps of RAW where Trump bought it from Vince (try watching it again and not getting a real President Camacho vibe from it all).

Is it just me or does the production value seem far less than what it was 8 years ago? Looked a lot crisper and brighter.

(Surprisingly good HHH/Orton last man standing match too with a creative finish too)

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