zev Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 46 minutes ago, PetrolCB said: I agree. He's a very generic guy now. Generic? Generic...oh...I see what you did there. As for his stock crashing, would that have been the hour he got called up from NXT, or the night of the brand split? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 After the Nakamura match, his expression pretty much said, "Yeah, this'll be it for me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, Godfrey said: Sami had a weird year. He started big with the Nakamura match and then winning his feud with Owens, but by putting the IC title onto Ryder and then Miz (which I think we all can agree was the right move in the end) it left Sami with not much to do. They fucked up by not putting him on Smackdown. He should have been the one to initially beat Miz for the IC belt. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 IMO, I think they whiffed on most of the roster split. It's clear that SDL is the traditionally booked wrestling show while RAW is supposed to be more of a mainstream saga. Guys like Zayn, Cesaro, KO, and even Rollins are much better suited for SDL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Meh. I mean, I'm curious as to what most of y'all think Sami Zayn's ceiling is in WWE. He's just another guy there.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Didn't Meltzer say Sami's a heat magnet recently? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, just drew said: Meh. I mean, I'm curious as to what most of y'all think Sami Zayn's ceiling is in WWE. He's just another guy there.... Realistically, he'll probably be the face version of the Miz. Upper mid-card for the most part, and moving into main event at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I like that Roman Reigns gimmick is now Donna Douglas on the Twilight Zone and the fans are the pig people. At this point the booing is very amusing for how nonsensical it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 hour ago, just drew said: Meh. I mean, I'm curious as to what most of y'all think Sami Zayn's ceiling is in WWE. He's just another guy there.... Ceiling as in paychecks? He's there this year, and maybe the promoter hands him a soda as a bonus for bumping big for Brosty (the) Snowman. Ceiling as in storylines? MITB winner is slightly possible, only to not win with the cash-in because he's a super good guy and won't use it after someone's already wrestled once in a night. Ceiling as in 4 or higher star matches? Well, can he do a best of 7 with Nakamura? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I felt Sami could be a secondary champion. I didn't see world title holder but I saw a very popular underdog and fiery intercontinental champion. So far he's been booked below that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Burgundy LaRue said: IMO, I think they whiffed on most of the roster split. It's clear that SDL is the traditionally booked wrestling show while RAW is supposed to be more of a mainstream saga. Guys like Zayn, Cesaro, KO, and even Rollins are much better suited for SDL. Of course they are. So that's why they're on RAW. RAW has always been given the guys that would be logically better for Smackdown because in the WWE's eyes, RAW always has to be the A show no matter what. I mean it sort of worked out for Owens (though not really). Rollins should have had a huge angle all through out the fall but he couldn't because they didn't want Triple H on tv with probable low ratings thanks to MNF. Little did they know a shitty MNF season wouldn't of mattered. Now no one gives a shit why Triple H helped Owens win the title. Cesaro at least has pulled him out of the hole they threw him into but knowing the WWE they'll kick him back in at any time just for fun. Wrestling is an odd business. You want to make money and you have guys who could make you money but you do nothing with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Are you sure it's not just because Raw has an additional hour to fill? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 15 hours ago, Phantom Lord said: So here's an interesting question for you all. If Balor didn't get injured would he of had a mediocre Universal title run just like Owens or would he have all ready lost it Reigns by now? He would have the advantage of being a face, so he'd at least get more clean wins than KO. I think they were more intent on pushing on him, but the ineptitude of Raw's writing would've probably sandbagged him anyway. It's unlikely that he'd have a run that would set the world on fire, but he would've been positioned nicely to be a permanent upper midcard/main event guy even if he didn't hold the belt to Mania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 10 hours ago, just drew said: Meh. I mean, I'm curious as to what most of y'all think Sami Zayn's ceiling is in WWE. He's just another guy there.... Someone has to clean up the arena after shows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 18 hours ago, RIPPA said: Lawler just signed a year deal and they appear to be setting up a Lawler/Ziggler match based around his heart attack so shows what you know Let me get this straight. Danielson might have a really crappy life if he takes a bad bump and the WWE docs won't clear him. Lawler had a heart attack from being in a match and he's going to get an all clear. Ok.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, DTTW said: Let me get this straight. Danielson might have a really crappy life if he takes a bad bump and the WWE docs won't clear him. Lawler had a heart attack from being in a match and he's going to get an all clear. Ok.... Well one guy can get in there, do 5-10 minutes of gaga and probably no bumps. The other guy can't help but launch himself headfirst at his opponents because he thinks he owes it to the business to do dangerous shit. One grew up in an era where the marks were in the stands, not backstage. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, DTTW said: Let me get this straight. Danielson might have a really crappy life if he takes a bad bump and the WWE docs won't clear him. Lawler had a heart attack from being in a match and he's going to get an all clear. Ok.... They already have it covered. If something happens to Lawler, they're going to play this clip' and blame the whole thing on Eddie Gilbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 11 hours ago, just drew said: Meh. I mean, I'm curious as to what most of y'all think Sami Zayn's ceiling is in WWE. He's just another guy there.... Low side is the mid-card. If he finds his groove, the sky is the limit. That's what I always thought. There's a wrestling adage that generally proves true time and time again. If you can get yourself over in one place, you can usually get yourself over in another. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 59 minutes ago, Technico Support said: Well one guy can get in there, do 5-10 minutes of gaga and probably no bumps. The other guy can't help but launch himself headfirst at his opponents because he thinks he owes it to the business to do dangerous shit. One grew up in an era where the marks were in the stands, not backstage. And if both guys have medical conditions there is no reason either should be in the ring and it's really hypocritical if they let one guy wrestle and not the other. And no, neither one should be in the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, JohnnyJ said: There's a wrestling adage that generally proves true time and time again. If you can get yourself over in one place, you can usually get yourself over in another. Funny how the biggest wrestling company in the world screwed that up so many times 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Since Vince has had such success I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks all the success of wrestlers has always been due to him more than them, so just because Hogan, Savage, Foley, Flair, Andre, etc got over elsewhere doesn't show up in his thoughts just that they were successful under him. They get over because of him and he can get "anyone" over so he tries to get who he wants over since the end of the Monday Night Wars (which his ability to know to push Austin, Rock, Foley, etc was the reason they won according to WWE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, DTTW said: And if both guys have medical conditions there is no reason either should be in the ring and it's really hypocritical if they let one guy wrestle and not the other. And no, neither one should be in the ring. Being near sighted (or far sighted for that matter) is a medical condition - should all those wrestlers not be allowed to wrestle? Big Show suffers from acromegaly - should he not be allowed to wrestle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Show had surgery, so he no longer suffers from acromegaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Right? Eugene was autistic, should he have wrestled? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Being near sighted (or far sighted for that matter) is a medical condition - should all those wrestlers not be allowed to wrestle? Big Show suffers from acromegaly - should he not be allowed to wrestle? Will those conditions lead to possible death or paralysis while wrestling? You want to nitpick about my word choice, ok, my concern remains the same - should a guy who had a heart attack from wrestling really be ok'd to wrestle when they won't let a guy with who could be paralyzed from a single bump. I mean they don't want Angle to wrestle, allegedly, despite the proof he could for the the last 10 years, but they'll ok the guy who had a heart attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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