Craig H Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just now, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: Did they ever do anything with Shane's blackmail threat? Y'know, like reveal what he had on Vince. It's a stack of film reels showing the Invasion angle going in the right direction, Austin not turning heel at WM 17, and clips from a successful Cena heel run. They all have titles like "The TL Hopper Flies High." Vince has hundreds more, but those were the ones Shane was able to steal and lock away. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 That was the oddest promo/stipulation/result in recent memory. Either something in their plans radically changed (like the rumor that Taker was supposed to lose but wouldn't, which I find unlikely) or its just an example of WWE booking week to week with no long term planning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 The whole blackmail thing wasn't even necessary. What if Shane came back, demanded a spot managing Raw, and Vince said he could have it if he won a match? See how much simpler that is and how much better it works? It took 28 writers and Vince McMahon himself to actually create a much more convoluted story, one that made no sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph2112 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: Did they ever do anything with Shane's blackmail threat? Y'know, like reveal what he had on Vince. I thought because Shane lost the match, he couldn't reveal it. And they tried to tie it up by Vince walking away with the "stuff" on a backstage skit the night after Mania. Or did I dream that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 In my imagination, Shane had the goods on why Vince was pouring money in our future Presidents slush fund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I'm pretty sure it went like this: "Hey Vince, let's do a blackmail angle." "HAHA YEAH PAL" *walks back through the curtain* "NOPE" *87 rewrites, per week* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 hours ago, MORELOCK said: I know you're just trying to shit on WWE like always, but Warrior in 98 WCW could have made the company money. The issue was that they only brought him in to put Hogan over. Don't assume son. I was 1000% for a Warrior return. I still am. (a bit harder now-a-days) But everyone with name value tends to get big return pops. That's how that gimmick works. It does not indicate that it will draw money. I bet Gilberg would get a pop too, but that doesn't mean he needs a mania spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Meltzer gets confirmation (more or less) on the wild-ass ADR in Austria story: http://www.f4wonline.com/other-wrestling/details-alberto-del-rios-arrest-brawl-his-brother-austria-227581 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 34 minutes ago, DTTW said: I was 1000% for a Warrior return. I still am. (a bit harder now-a-days) But everyone with name value tends to get big return pops. That's how that gimmick works. It does not indicate that it will draw money. But Shane vs. Taker, by all accounts, *did* draw despite the shitty booking, just as Warrior could have been more of a draw in 98 if WCW hadn't gone all WCW about it. It's just not a good comparison. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would get a kick out of Gillberg showing up on RAW to be squashed by Goldberg, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, MORELOCK said: But Shane vs. Taker, by all accounts, *did* draw despite the shitty booking, just as Warrior could have been more of a draw in 98 if WCW hadn't gone all WCW about it. It's just not a good comparison. I'd agree except for that whole WRESTLEMANIA itself being a draw factor. If it was on a B show and drew monstrous numbers, ok, but that show was going to sell no matter what the booking ways. Now, did that match help draw in any other undeniable way.....ehhh not enough that I'd warrant saying it was worth one of takers last matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 From the way Vince acted when Shane "blackmailed" him, it seemed like the secret involved something Vince didn't want Stephanie to know. I kinda thought Shane was going to blackmail Vince with the info that Stephanie wasn't really a McMahon or something equally tasteless. If that was where they were going with that, I'm not unhappy they scrapped the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Shane was finally going to show us the photos of Miss Elizabeth 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: I kinda thought Shane was going to blackmail Vince with the info that Stephanie wasn't really a McMahon or something equally tasteless. If that was where they were going with that, I'm not unhappy they scrapped the idea. Tasteless....you call that idea tasteless. The guy wanted a storyline about screwing his own daughter. That idea was tasteless, blackmail over fake genetic results is pretty classy in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I was so sure that the slingshot powerbomb was something Miz just started using when he was getting hot this year. And yet there it is, July 25, 2011 vs Rey Mysterio. Yet another example of me sleeping on the A-lister. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 The murder case against Jimmy Snuka has been dismissed as the judge has ruled (again) that Snuka is not competent for trial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 39 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: I was so sure that the slingshot powerbomb was something Miz just started using when he was getting hot this year. And yet there it is, July 25, 2011 vs Rey Mysterio. Yet another example of me sleeping on the A-lister. Rey's been taking that move forever, though. I remember Ultimo using it on him in 96. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Go2Sleep said: Rey's been taking that move forever, though. I remember Ultimo using it on him in 96. Oh, part of me absolutely saw it as Rey being down for anything. But when I saw Miz using it against Dolph this year, I assumed it was a new addition to his repertoire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 hours ago, MORELOCK said: But Shane vs. Taker, by all accounts, *did* draw despite the shitty booking, just as Warrior could have been more of a draw in 98 if WCW hadn't gone all WCW about it. It's just not a good comparison. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would get a kick out of Gillberg showing up on RAW to be squashed by Goldberg, either. Could have sworn that happened during his last run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 According to DDP's twitter he's being inducted into the WWE HOF this year. I could have sworn he was already in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Didn't Miz give Rey a concussion with it? It was at the Summerslam where he was dressed like Batman. I was there and it looked like Rey got straight fucked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 File this one under FUCK YEAH MOTHER FUCKER 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammo~! Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 You can put Bryan Fury in the Bullet Club all you want, it still won't turn him face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 You also can customize King as Okada and it has him do the Rainmaker. New Japan is doing all the cool cross promotion everyone else should be jumping on between this and Yakuza having a New Japan wrestler gang. WWE will never be in touch enough to do something like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Todd Grisham has been hired by the UFC to announce. Good for Grish! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 another question for you all.. pretend for a minute that from Vince snr moving away from the NWA till the start of Raw in 1993 that the WWF maintained the same format of 12 PPVs and six hours of TV a week that they have now. Who is the biggest beneficiary of that and whose legacy is somewhat tarnished as a result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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