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On ‎12‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 9:32 AM, Greggulator said:

Anyone who says the Divas Revolution failed is so wrong. It took them a bit but they have two really strong divisions on different shows.

Like... Charlotte and Sasha are main eventing PPVs and Raws and it doesn't feel out of place. At all. Best feud since Sami/KO and on par with Wyatts/Shield.

The matchup may be repetitive but it is superb. All of their matches have been awesome, although the HITC has a divided opinion. They have also been worked so incredibly different.

I am so psyched for the IronWoman. That is my favorite gimmick match. Sasha/Bayley was one of my favorite matches ever with the truly iconic moment of Bayley kicking Sasha to get the last second win. 

Both are going to do some really fun things. Have to hope Sasha's body doesn't fold in two.

I wouldn't go so far to sing praises for the women's revolution just yet.  Sasha and Charlotte are doing well, but the rest of the RAW women are still third-class citizens.  They have Bayley fighting crazy Alicia over giving Cedric Alexander a teddy bear.  They have zero idea what to do with Nia Jax.  It's a two women division; at what point do they build the other women to become legitimate contenders.  They risk building Sasha and Charlotte so high to where anyone going against them won't be taken seriously. SDL is better, but one can get the feeling that they don't get to do as much in their matches as not to interfere with RAW's history makers.  Why did Sasha and Charlotte get to do a no-DQ match first, even though Nikki and Carmella were announced for one the week before?

The matches have been good, but the story has been somewhat muddled.  That's not on the performers, though.

This isn't to knock the women, but just to say let's not wave the pom-poms in victory yet.  There is still a lot of work to do.

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11 hours ago, Burgundy LaRue said:

I wouldn't go so far to sing praises for the women's revolution just yet.  Sasha and Charlotte are doing well, but the rest of the RAW women are still third-class citizens.  They have Bayley fighting crazy Alicia over giving Cedric Alexander a teddy bear.  They have zero idea what to do with Nia Jax.  It's a two women division; at what point do they build the other women to become legitimate contenders.  They risk building Sasha and Charlotte so high to where anyone going against them won't be taken seriously. SDL is better, but one can get the feeling that they don't get to do as much in their matches as not to interfere with RAW's history makers.  Why did Sasha and Charlotte get to do a no-DQ match first, even though Nikki and Carmella were announced for one the week before?

The matches have been good, but the story has been somewhat muddled.  That's not on the performers, though.

This isn't to knock the women, but just to say let's not wave the pom-poms in victory yet.  There is still a lot of work to do.

This. It's Lita and Trish all over again with Molly, Jacqueline, Victoria, etc as add ons. 

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11 hours ago, Burgundy LaRue said:

I wouldn't go so far to sing praises for the women's revolution just yet.  Sasha and Charlotte are doing well, but the rest of the RAW women are still third-class citizens.  They have Bayley fighting crazy Alicia over giving Cedric Alexander a teddy bear.  They have zero idea what to do with Nia Jax.  It's a two women division; at what point do they build the other women to become legitimate contenders.  They risk building Sasha and Charlotte so high to where anyone going against them won't be taken seriously. SDL is better, but one can get the feeling that they don't get to do as much in their matches as not to interfere with RAW's history makers.  Why did Sasha and Charlotte get to do a no-DQ match first, even though Nikki and Carmella were announced for one the week before?

The matches have been good, but the story has been somewhat muddled.  That's not on the performers, though.

This isn't to knock the women, but just to say let's not wave the pom-poms in victory yet.  There is still a lot of work to do.

Well said, @Burgundy LaRue xxx

RAW has the two best women's wrestlers, Sasha Banks and Charlotte. After them, it's messy.

Smackdown Live's women's division is better booked from top to bottom. The same goes for Smackdown Live all round to RAW.

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People can't see the forest for the trees when it comes to progress in WWE women's wrestling. Could they be doing more with Bayley? Sure. Is there still sexist bullshit like all of Lana's angles? Yeah. Could they write Raw feuds better? Yeah, but that applies to the men as much as the women. 

On the other hand, though, we just had a women's title match main event a ppv like it wasn't a big deal, when even the Trish/Lita heyday (which is overstated WWE-manufactured history to begin with), that would've been unthinkable. We also have women on the top of the card who are over primarily for their wrestling ability and there's no muddy waters about whether overt sexualization plays a role in how over they are, which isn't something any Attitude or Gen 1 Brand Split woman could say. Women's matches are getting "this is awesome" chants instead of "we want puppies." These are all things that weren't even happening 3 years ago.

I'm glad people still want to push for more, and there are still things to improve, but to say there's been no progress or victories to celebrate is to be ignorant of the entirety of WWE history.

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And it was less than two years ago that fans were chanting to female wrestlers about performing oral sex on their significant others.

No one is saying there's been no progress.  But let us not be naïve or satisfied with what's happened to this point.  The same idea applies regarding race/ethnicity and sexuality in WWE.

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