Wyld Samurai Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Dewar said: Curt has access to some wonderful "medicine", doesn't he? Nyquil is no joke, brah. Mix thst with some cherry coke and a cough drop and it's the shizzle. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Wyld Samurai said: Which makes me think of Cliff Burton. And now I'm sad. Which makes me think of what could've been had Hogan joined. And now I'M sad. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 57 minutes ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: I kinda wonder if anyone is capable of good work with Vince yammering in their ear. Corey Graves is doing alright. It hit me watching NXT this week that he's easily WWE's best announcer right now, which is amazing since he's only been doing it for 2 years. He was doing Young Boy Tom's job for him this week, trying to lead a very lost Percy Watson through the broadcast. He still manages to stay consistent on Raw, just being himself to the point where it's pretty obvious if someone else is feeding him a bad line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Corey Graves is the best commentator they've had since the heyday of Jesse and The Brain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Corey still flip-flops a little too much for my liking (Cheering on various faces, complaining about heels going too far when they really haven't done much) but I think that's more Vince than anything else, especially while reading Jericho's book where he talks about how when Jericho was playing the serious heel and they had Al Sharpton as guest host, Vince wrote a promo for him that praised everything Sharpton had done and Jericho said he shouldn't do it because it was the exact opposite of what his character would do and Vince said "That's your promo, don't change a word of it" so he did what he said and the whole segment was boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: ...which makes me think of Metallica I Am The Table! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I know it has its own thread but for those of you who don't watch Impact (admittedly I don't either) but are familiar with Broken Matt Hardy or just a wrestling fan you need to see Tag Team Apocalypto. It's different from anything you will see on WWE television, it has a cinematic and dramatic touch to it and I think its pretty cool conceptually. If I was Rippa I'd put this on the DVDVR 1001 list. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted December 16, 2016 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 Speaking of newer wrestling - for those of you who haven't seen the WWE has started putting up a lot more recent matches in full on their Youtube channel For example - this went up today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Theres a lot of cool matches up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidNatural Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Jesse Ventura was consistent in praising faces in a "I'll give him credit where credit is due" way. He would also slam heels when they would do something like pick up an opponent before the three count. Corey Graves is about the same way. Graves is the best possible combination of Ventura and Heenan. Serious analysis and just enough humor to give you a laugh now and then. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 As far as the Brock Lesnar/steroid talk - 1) Has it even been confirmed that it was steriods? and 2) Part-timers in WWE aren't included in the Wellness Policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 If I remember correctly he tested positive for clophamine which is used for post cycle therapy when coming off the roids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 hour ago, KidNatural said: Jesse Ventura was consistent in praising faces in a "I'll give him credit where credit is due" way. He would also slam heels when they would do something like pick up an opponent before the three count. Corey Graves is about the same way. Graves is the best possible combination of Ventura and Heenan. Serious analysis and just enough humor to give you a laugh now and then. I totally believe that Corey Graves is the closest thing we're going to get to another Jesse Ventura. There are clearly moments where Graves is being told what to say and it seems forced, but you can always tell when he's letting loose, especially on NXT. The only positive to Percy Watson on NXT is Corey's passive aggressive nature towards him. Percy tried to be cute and called him "Gravy" and Corey just sat there and took it. And then out of nowhere later in the match he let out a "And if you EVER call me GRAVY again..." Total Jesse move. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 3 hours ago, KidNatural said: Jesse Ventura was consistent in praising faces in a "I'll give him credit where credit is due" way. He would also slam heels when they would do something like pick up an opponent before the three count. Corey Graves is about the same way. Graves is the best possible combination of Ventura and Heenan. Serious analysis and just enough humor to give you a laugh now and then. Problem with Jesse is they never called him on bull plop. Though Schiavonie did at Summerslam 89 and it really slowed the show down. That said Corey Graves is a million miles away from being Bobby or Jesse. He's barely Mark Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turk128 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turk128 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Can't believe this is over a month old and I didn't see it here... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Read the latest F4W Newsletter. Man, Paige's mom was right: She should have stuck with Kevin. Even if his music career was going nowhere. (You'd have to be a fan of Total Divas to see what I mean.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 18 hours ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: I kinda wonder if anyone is capable of good work with Vince yammering in their ear. Well since only one guy has excelled doing it, I'd wager it being a no for most humans who haven't worked for a bullish tyrant before. 10 hours ago, Casey said: As far as the Brock Lesnar/steroid talk - 1) Has it even been confirmed that it was steriods? and 2) Part-timers in WWE aren't included in the Wellness Policy. If Brock is a part-timer, then how is everyone else an independent contractor? Doesn't one contradict the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 @ Reed's post... I know it'll be looked as wrong, and I absolutely mean no harm. Seriously. But, on the path it seems she's going (don't go by only Total Divas), she presumably seems to be on a Sunny route. She's young, attached herself to a "name" guy, has already been in the news and linked to it. It doesn't seem well. If this doesn't bode well, I'm sorry. I typed it on first instinct and am wasted and need sleep. Hope she doesn't end up like my comparison earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 7 hours ago, turk128 said: Man, AJ did great there (of course) -real star quality- but I am a little shocked at AJ's presence and poise. AJ did his usual great job. I'd like to see the outtakes because I am sure AJ really was cracking AJ up! Happy b'day Jeebus! sorry, RAF (backwards baseball cap indoors, ugh) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 27 minutes ago, PetrolCB said: @ Reed's post... I know it'll be looked as wrong, and I absolutely mean no harm. Seriously. But, on the path it seems she's going (don't go by only Total Divas), she presumably seems to be on a Sunny route. She's young, attached herself to a "name" guy, has already been in the news and linked to it. It doesn't seem well. If this doesn't bode well, I'm sorry. I typed it on first instinct and am wasted and need sleep. Hope she doesn't end up like my comparison earlier. Obviously, every individual has their problems. Blaming Del Rio for "corrupting" her is silly. She's young, of course, but she's still a grown-ass woman who makes her own decisions. But these two, eh, they simply aren't good for one another. They appear to be bringing out the very worst in each other. Shades of Sunny/Candido. It doesn't seem healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ramo2653 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 @Reed Based on Total Divas, Kevin didn't seem like the best option either since he pushed for marriage so quickly and by getting a tattoo to propose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Reed said: Read the latest F4W Newsletter. Man, Paige's mom was right: She should have stuck with Kevin. Even if his music career was going nowhere. (You'd have to be a fan of Total Divas to see what I mean.) What'd Dave say about Paige and ADR in the latest newsletter? And is Kevin the guy that proposed to her a year or two back on Total Divas, and she said yes so she... wouldn't hurt his feelings or something? (Obviously, it's been a year or two since I watched Total Divas.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: What'd Dave say about Paige and ADR in the latest newsletter? Wasn't Dave, it was Bix. Spoilered for size: Spoiler Alberto El Patron (Jose Alberto Rodriguez) and his fiance, Paige (Saraya-Jade Bevis) were in attendance, sitting in the owner's' box to watch his brother, El Hijo del Dos Caras, work in the main event. During the show, something happened when Paige bumped into IWRG wrestler Tortuga Rafy (as in Ninja Turtle Raphael) in a hallway. Alberto says that Rafy touched Paige inappropriately. Rafy says that he made the mistake of calling her "beautiful" as he let her pass him in the hallway, only for it to get back to Del Rio who went after him. Whichever story is true, it turned into a fistfight with Alberto getting the better of the brawl. Rafy had pled with fans on Facebook to drop the whole thing, but he spoke up on +LuchaTV's podcast after Alberto tweeted that he groped Paige. He claimed in the interview that they had settled the issue on Sunday night. It's entirely possible that they had and Alberto only brought back the groping claims to defend himself from English speaking fans, but right now, we have no way to know for sure. Fan sentiment in the lucha scene was solidly with Rafy, as were the wrestlers who were talking. It would be easy to look at this as an isolated incident if it was. It's not. Super Luchas reported that eight days earlier at a WWC card in Puerto Rico, Alberto had a similar reaction, albeit without the physical violence, over what's believed to be a similar non-incident between Paige and TNA's Robbie E. (Rob Strauss). While not all identical, there are other incidents involving the Paige/Alberto couple that are cause for concern. In June, the night of the Money in the Bank pay-per-view when both were on WWE's active roster, they went out after the show because they were in Las Vegas and the show ended before 8:00 p.m. local time. Something happened, and photos spread around Twitter of Paige, seemingly handcuffed, being led into a government vehicle of some kind that most people thought looked like a police van. So I emailed the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police and got a call back from their public information officer. For privacy reasons, he couldn't officially name anyone, but he could say that it was about "the woman in the picture." It sounds strange and like a total end run, but that's what he told me. He explained that "the woman in the picture" was getting into an ambulance, not a police van. What happened was that police officers already in the area for an unrelated incident were flagged down by bystanders who were concerned that the woman was running into oncoming traffic. After doing some kind of evaluation, it was determined that the incident should be considered medical, not legal, and at that point, due to the police handing the incident off and medical privacy laws, he had no further information. The office I spoke two was pretty clear in saying that this was a very serious incident, both in his words and his tone. This was not some misunderstanding stemming from Paige getting drunk and obviously jaywalking. She was acting in a way that concerned not only bystanders, but trained first responders, who made the call that she needed to be taken to the nearest hospital. Whatever happened next, nobody knows, past that she appeared to be fine when she showed up the next day at Raw and was allowed to work while WWE investigated the matter. Six months later, with everything else that has gone on between those two, and with "Total Divas" covering their courtship and her peers concern with ostensibly little to no embellishment, there's clearly something troubling going on. Even after the police story came out (albeit a version that broke first, from Ryan Satin, didn't include the officer's point of view on the matter), Alberto pushed out a story saying that Paige ended up in an ambulance because a couple they had ejected from a show attacked them. His story was transparently false, honestly more so than usual for pro wrestling, that it spoke volumes about what happened. Oh, and then he got stabbed in an incident where Paige was present, where he told an ever-shifting story that lacked details. Blind item gossip websites had a field day with printing outlandish items very obviously implied to be about the two of them after that one, but there's no proof that any of those were true. Even if there's a whole lot of conjecture and wacky gossip flying around, let's take a look at what we do know with at least a reasonable certainty: * Paige's family is not a fan of her being with Alberto. * Alberto was stabbed in an incident where Paige was present and his explanations for what happened were constantly changing. * Paige both moved in with and proposed to Alberto on a whim. * There was a very public outburst where onlookers were so worried for Paige's safety that they flagged down police officers who made sure she was taken to the hospital after she was acting erratically and a way she was a danger to herself and others. * Alberto is getting into a habit of having paranoid, jealous outbursts where he becomes violent towards other wrestlers. Without getting overly presumptuous, it's still safe to say that there are clearly a lot of things wrong with this picture. If you DID want to get overly presumptuous, there's absolutely a lot more that can be said. Whether or not that's our place...that's a different matter. But if there was ever a time that this was just a weird mismatched May-December relationship we laughed at, we're way, way past that point. Edited December 17, 2016 by Peck Just realized Bix is "Dave" as well, but I assume you referred to Meltzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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