Ryan Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 If anyone cheers on Penn State, even alumni, I will have Fowler mock you derisively using comic book references. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Vanderbilt about to beat Tennessee and clinch a bowl game. Derek Mason is feeling himself on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Brian Kelly isn't waiting around to be fired, already sending out feelers to other programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APO Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I'll never understand why McElwain didn't just start Bubba Franks and let the kid learn this year instead of relying on freaking Luke Del Rio and a Purdue castoff, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew8798 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 34 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: I don't think Colorado had Colorado in the PAC-12 title game at the start of the season. Go Buffs I thought they could be a bowl team but not this good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew8798 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 How next week looks ACC: Clemson vs. Va. Tech Big Ten: Wisc. vs. PSU Big 12: OU vs. OKST Pac-12: Wash. vs. Colo. SEC: Bama vs. Fla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Gotta give the Big XII credit, they scheduled it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I miss Colorado being good. They were very good when I was younger and just starting to get into football. Anyway, it looks like this all comes down to B1G title game winner vs. Washington. I mean if Clemson loses then there's about to be a huge shit storm but if they win the committee will be deciding between two teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 49 minutes ago, APO said: I'll never understand why McElwain didn't just start Bubba Franks and let the kid learn this year instead of relying on freaking Luke Del Rio and a Purdue castoff, lol. He thinks 10-4 and then 8-5 is good enough. It's not. Next year is make it or break it for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 When Florida shocks everyone and only loses by 50 instead of 80 it will turn college athletics upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I miss Colorado being good. They were very good when I was younger and just starting to get into football. Anyway, it looks like this all comes down to B1G title game winner vs. Washington. I mean if Clemson loses then there's about to be a huge shit storm but if they win the committee will be deciding between two teams. Assuming Washington wins. If Colorado wins, I think the committee would take Wisconsin if they win. If Colorado and Penn State win, I think they chicken out on deciding between them and Michigan and take worthless Oklahoma just because they aren't in the head to head debate there. If Clemson and Washington and Oklahoma were all to lose, you'd have 11-2 Colorado, 11-2 B1G champ, and 10-2 Michigan who beat both of them all with strong arguments. I think the committee likely thinks higher of Wisconsin (as Ohio State and Michigan by 7 are better loses than Pitt and Michigan by 39, although beating Ohio is better than anything on Wisconsin's resume.) I still honestly feel if it comes down to a battle of two loss teams, Michigan would have the best resume (wins over Colorado, Pen Wisconsin and Penn State by 39, two loses by a combined 4 points both on the final play, one to a team that beat Oklahoma by three touchdowns in Norman.) So then the big question is: do conference titles mean more than head to head and strength of schedule? Can the B1G get two teams? Why is anyone even considering the Big XII teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I don't think the committee will consider the Big XII unless all hell breaks loose. Alabama is in. Ohio St. is in. I know there's people out there who still think Ohio St. ISN'T locked in but they are smoking crack rocks. Those two teams are in. Even if Bama were to lose to Florida, okay.. they would drop maybe to #2. Maybe. Clemson wins and they are in. I differ with Brian here on B1G title game and Pac-12 title game. I don't think Colorado can get in unless they win and Clemson loses. I think Michigan is out because I don't see the committee putting two B1G teams in the playoff and neither being the conference champion. Yes, they are there to select the four best teams and Michigan has a stronger resume than say Colorado who they beat but I think they do not want to piss off the other conferences. There's still politics at play. for the record, I think Washington and Wisconsin will win. I think they end up going with Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 To be clear, I don't think Colorado has any chance of getting in, because of losing to Michigan. I think if Colorado and Penn State both win, they'll punt on the tough choice and grab Oklahoma (barring a Cowboys win next week) because they won't want to take Michigan, and it being virtually impossible to justify taking a team Michigan beat by 39 that also has two losses, and nearly impossible to justify taking one Michigan beat by 17 and doesn't have a lot of major wins. I think they can feasibly go around head to head for Wisconsin, given it was only by seven. But, no, I don't see any path to playoffs for Colorado. If Va Tech and Colorado both win, I think it will be Oklahoma and Wisconsin if the Badgers win. If Penn State wins... Then I think they might legitimately have to take two non-champions from the same league. All that said, I think we can all agree Bama has the best resume. Ohio State probably has the second best. After that, it gets really hard to make a call, but I assume they'll default to best record and gladly take Clemson and Washington if they both win, because it's by far the easiest choice to defend. Given our limited knowledge of how the committee works, they've proven unwilling to make a hard choice between two teams with a razor thin margin (TCU/Baylor? Fuck it, we'll take Ohio State. Which wound up the right call, but still) which I think opens the door for the Sooners. Oklahoma State lost to a 6-6 MAC team, I don't care about the circumstances. They aren't going, no matter how much Gundy bitches. Unless they win Bedlam by like fifty and both Clemson and Washington lose. And I think the committee would still be better off leaving them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 15 hours ago, Gonzo said: Pitt 76, Syracuse 61 In regulation In football 12 hours ago, Gonzo said: Navy's put up 75 points In regulation In football And they're not the highest scoring team of the day. 501 rushing yards and nine rushing touchdowns. Long live the option. Middle Tennessee: "Hold my drink" They put up 77 on Florida Atlantic using the wildcat for the ENTIRE GAME after their QB got taken out on the first series. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hypothesis: Middle Tennessee should've used the wildcat as it's base offense all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 11 hours ago, Ryan said: When Florida shocks everyone and only loses by 50 instead of 80 it will turn college athletics upside down. I kept up with their game last night, and my word--they have zero concept of how to play offense. I know anything can happen and that's why you play the game. But they're walking into their own funeral next Saturday. If Alabama is clicking on all cylinders, Florida may lose by seven TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I feel like Jim McElwain may have misrepresented his level of offensive genius to Joe Philbin-like degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Austin Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I'm not a Tennessee fan but I'd gotta believe Mr. Jones' seat is gotta be getting warm right? They can into the season worth possible playoff hopes and they end the season losing to Vandy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 It's okay, if Kelly bolts ND Jones is right there to follow him again and pretend he can coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I'm of the opinion McElwain has actually OVERachieved the past 2 years, given the complete lack of talent he inherited on offense and the almost-unprecedented rash of injuries they've had over that time. They have no QB, no WRs except Callaway, a couple decent RBs, were constantly injured on OL last year and constantly injured on D this year...and dude still finds ways to win. More talented teams (looking at you, Tennessee) have failed to do what he's done twice now. That's good coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I don't disagree with the injuries playing a factor but the schedule hasn't been bad. All McElwain has done is beat up (or struggle at times like with Florida Atlantic) on weaker teams and gotten destroyed when stepping up in competition. His big win last year was against #3 Ole Miss and we knew they were overrated. Florida went on to go 10-4. Nothing else of note on the schedule. Got destroyed in the Citrus Bowl. Those ten wins included East Carolina, New Mexico St., Florida Atlantic (20-14 in OT), Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Vandy (9-7). This year his biggest win is against LSU who also doesn't have much of an offense. Wins against North Texas, Vandy, South Carolina, Kentucky, UMASS. Blown out @ Arkansas. I'm not saying he should be let go or anything but he hasn't been too impressive to me. Next year will be his year. There must be an improvement on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I feel like winning 10 games with Treon Harris playing QB for over half the season should get you COTY consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Charlie Partridge has been turfed by FAU after three straight 3-9 seasons. The MTSU squash was the final nail in the coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 For something so historic, MTSU should hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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