NikoBaltimore Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, cwoy2j said: He did a lot of crazy shit in the WWF as well. That bump he took from the top rope to the concrete at WM2 was insane. I didn't see that match from WM2, was selective on what matches to watch. But to your point while he might have done dumb shit in WWF I still maintain he did that and worse long before WWF. So WWE might feel some sense of obligation but definitely shouldn't bear the whole burden by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 God Bless you Internet Quote Posted by Jake McClain (Member # 1837) on 07-19-2002 02:01 PM: Well, you got the DVDVR/Mexican Lucha Mark/Japanese Puro Mark/500, where someone like Benoit can be like #80, and 79 other guys with first names like Gran, El, or Hijo are ahead of him, and it is that way because 16 year olds with their McDonalds paychecks blow their whole load on Lucha or Puro tapes from PWI. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 HAHAHA Jake McClain callback!!!!!! RIPPA just made my day, and needs all the likes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 17 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said: I didn't see that match from WM2, was selective on what matches to watch. But to your point while he might have done dumb shit in WWF I still maintain he did that and worse long before WWF. So WWE might feel some sense of obligation but definitely shouldn't bear the whole burden by any means. All that aside you should watch that match. Bulldogs vs. Dream Team (Beefcake/Valentine). Probably the best match on the card. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 30 minutes ago, cwoy2j said: All that aside you should watch that match. Bulldogs vs. Dream Team (Beefcake/Valentine). Probably the best match on the card. Oh easily the best match on the card. Maybe Steamboat/Hernandez was #2? Fuck, what a bad show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, Technico Support said: Oh easily the best match on the card. Maybe Steamboat/Hernandez was #2? Fuck, what a bad show. The Funks vs. JYD/Tito is pretty good. That's probably #2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 18 hours ago, Tromatagon said: Guys, TJ Perkins is the face of the division, they deserve what's happening They had Rich Swann, Jack Gallagher, and Cedric Alexander under contract, and they chose to go with TJ Perkins. Mind you, they would have screwed the pooch on presenting the division no matter the champ, but they were asking for trouble by bypassing guys who are actually charismatic to put the title on TJP. Still don't understand that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 The arena hosting the Roadblock PPV tweeted that the main event is Kevin Owens vs. Roman Reigns So between that and Styles/Ambrose TLC - you know the general thought process for the rest of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I feel like the only possible real booking mistake Raw can make right now is putting Reigns against Owens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 If they are gonna run Reigns vs Owens, I'd prefer they take the U.S. strap off Roman first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 For some odd reason, ive been baffled this week with the realization that Rick Martel never held the Intercontinental Championship, but Chico Santana did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Maybe Martel forgot his gear the night they were gonna put the IC title on him like when he was suppose to win the WCW TV title in Dec. '97. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Wyld Samurai said: For some odd reason, ive been baffled this week with the realization that Rick Martel never held the Intercontinental Championship, but Chico Santana did. Why? Tito held the title 3 years before forming Strike Force Or is it because you feel like Martel was a better worker than Tito and "deserved" it more. Because if it is the later - there are IC champs FAR FAR worse than Tito 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 11 minutes ago, Web Conn said: Maybe Martel forgot his gear the night they were gonna put the IC title on him like when he was suppose to win the WCW TV title in Dec. '97. Martel did win the TV belt- sure I remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 minute ago, alstein said: Martel did win the TV belt- sure I remember that. Yes, in February of 98. Per Booker T's HOF speech, Martel was suppose to win the TV Title the night Book won it the first time, but he did't have his gear with him so they put the belt on Book instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 I eventually should start a thread for it but FloSlam announced partnerships with Beyond Wrestling and PWX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I still need to make it out to a PWX show since its in my backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt925 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 12 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said: I have been watching a lot of 1980s wrestling lately (Starrcades and what not), did the change in the crowd's reactions happen slowly or did ECW/Attitude Era/nWo make it happen quicker? The crowds are into just about everything from start to finish, not to Hogan or Rock levels of course but there is always a low murmur in the crowd and they are vocal constantly during the match with just cheering and whistling. Almost like how people respond at football or baseball games, and nothing like how wrestling fans are today. I'm not an old fuddy duddy that thinks wrestling fans today are terrible or anything, but its definitely a different type of reaction, I think by then everyone knew it was theater (well except maybe in the deep south) so I don't think kayfabe is to blame. They just seem more into the show as a whole no matter who is wrestling and not just popping for certain acts/wrestlers. I think kayfabe is the biggest part of it. Not that most people then didn't know it was a work, but it was far easier to suspend disbelief. Now we get our noses rubbed in it constantly and it takes a really great match (for me, anyway) for me to really "get into" it. Back then it was presented as a sport and that's really missing today. From WWE anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 6 hours ago, NikoBaltimore said: I didn't see that match from WM2, was selective on what matches to watch. But to your point while he might have done dumb shit in WWF I still maintain he did that and worse long before WWF. So WWE might feel some sense of obligation but definitely shouldn't bear the whole burden by any means. That is an awesome match. Greg Valentine was king sized holding up his end and carrying Beefcake, who was still pretty worthless at that point. I love the finish to the match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Z Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 hour ago, RIPPA said: I eventually should start a thread for it but FloSlam announced partnerships with Beyond Wrestling and PWX They seem to have a different deal with Beyond than with WWN. They won't have the back catalogue and new shows will only be available for 90 days after they happened. I hope they can work out a better deal with them down the line. That's stupid, that you still have to subscribe to Beyond's own subscription channel, if you want to watch older shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 7 hours ago, Matt D said: I feel like the only possible real booking mistake Raw can make right now is putting Reigns against Owens. There aren't many other ways for them to go, though. Rollins needs to be taken out of the equation for now. The only other guys built up enough to take on Owens are Jericho and Reigns. I would think they'd burn off the KO/Y2J match at Roadblock, but that comes down to when Jericho will leave to tour with Fozzy. I wonder if they're thinking of doing a Lashley-like story with Reigns holding multiple titles. And looking into the future, how does that get them to Lesnar-Reigns II? Because I think that's the endgame for WM 33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderlips Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 23 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: ...because he's still a human being that worked for them, and suffered the injury that effected the rest of his life while working for them Did you say the same thing about WWE helping Scott Hall, Sean Waltman, and countless other jackasses that needed help? Hall, Waltman didn't try and purposely go out to do harm to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderlips Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 13 hours ago, Skelemania said: Scott Hall murdered someone. "In 1983, Hall was charged with second degree murder after shooting a man with his own gun (after wrestling it away from him) in an altercation outside of a nightclub in Orlando, Florida. According to Hall, this was done in self-defense. The charges were dropped due to lack of evidence. In a 2011 interview for ESPN, Hall admitted killing the man and said he is unable to forget the incident." I didn't know that story. If true, as my 3 1/2 year old would say, he should go to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Thunderlips said: I didn't know that story. If true, as my 3 1/2 year old would say, he should go to jail. Your 3 1/2 year old is very bright for his/her age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 If it was self-defense that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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