Brysynner Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Pay Goldberg to work 5 dates. 1 NXT taping getting a few wins 2 RAWs to set up Lesnar/Goldberg Survivor Series against Brock 1 Post Takeover NXT taping so we can get Joe beating Goldberg I really wish WWE would occasionally send their part timers down to NXT for TV takings. I feel like Lesnar/Roode, Lesnar/Aries, Lesnar/Joe, or let Lesnar squash a new guy like Patrick Clark. WWE does it make everything that happens in NXT canon so let your part timer do a job in NXT and never mention it on WWE TV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 27 minutes ago, zev said: I don't know Luke Harper, but I bet if you offered him a Stouffer's Pizza, he'd say thanks. Yeah...Yeah...Yeah...Yeah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Brysynner said: Pay Goldberg to work 5 dates. 1 NXT taping getting a few wins 2 RAWs to set up Lesnar/Goldberg Survivor Series against Brock 1 Post Takeover NXT taping so we can get Joe beating Goldberg I really wish WWE would occasionally send their part timers down to NXT for TV takings. I feel like Lesnar/Roode, Lesnar/Aries, Lesnar/Joe, or let Lesnar squash a new guy like Patrick Clark. WWE does it make everything that happens in NXT canon so let your part timer do a job in NXT and never mention it on WWE TV Lesnar and Goldberg should never set foot in Full Sail, for any reason. Keep that shit away from NXT. I am, however, perfectly all right with them putting over Joe or Nakamura on the main roster. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 13 hours ago, Craig H said: Imagine what Snitsky would have looked like in HD. You don't need to, he had a brief run against CM Punk during his first reign. Think it was during his bald and had bad teeth gimmick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Meltzer had an anecdote on the last show about how Vince didn't make a play for Sting earlier because he just didn't think Sting was a big deal. The point was the Vince simply could not comprehend that anyone (and this also relates to Goldberg) could be that over without ever being in WWE. Can you imagine the sheer level of self-delusion necessary for that kind of mindset? Like it just did not compute in Vince's head that, if someone was not in WWE/F, he could still be huge and popular with the fans. It's amazing. I always thought it was just a line when Vince said WCW beat them for so long only because they hired ex WWE guys. But holy shit, Vince really believes that. Damn. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 The video is really nothing much. But the video title is all kinds of trollworthy bandwaggon hopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turk128 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 32 minutes ago, Technico Support said: I always thought it was just a line when Vince said WCW beat them for so long only because they hired ex WWE guys. But holy shit, Vince really believes that. Damn. Vince is delusional and lives in his own world for sure but... he kinda had this last part right. I mean, I can't imagine WCW being as impactful without those ex WWE guys. (I certainly was amongst those who flipped between the channels for that reason alone. And consequently discover their awesome mid card.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Keep in mind that when Sting was first available in 2002, he was already 43, was asking for a lot of money and WWE wasn't giving out short term deals with limited dates for the part timers. In retrospect, it probably worked out for the best. If they bring him in a decade ago, he works a year, ends up finishing his run in a tag team with goldust doing comedy and is done. Instead he was able to collect mid-6 figure pay checks for doing limited dates well into his 50s. Stings match at Night of Champions still really bothers me. He should not have been taking that kind of offense in that kind of match and it was inexplicable why it was on a C-Show ppv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I have zero faith in WWE storytelling. I'm just watching matches by guys I like, and they are producing some great matches. As far as long term stories or planning....i gave up. There isn;t even anything I'm dying to see, but at least I know AJ styles will have awesome matches on the network. Anyway, I'm all for Goldberg vs Lesnar. Seriously....who cares who goes over, or how it helps build anyone....those days are over. I'm down for a freakshow, big hoss match where there is some mystery about how Goldberg will perform. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Was thinking about Bobby Heenan today. Found these 2 gems: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 said: have zero faith in WWE storytelling. I'm just watching matches by guys I like, and they are producing some great matches. As far as long term stories or planning....i gave up. SDL has been really good since the brand split. Besides the Bray Wyatt crap it has been a very well booked show. AJ is on an incredible roll on top, and the world title picture has been solid. I'll go as far to say the booking in the tag division has been perfect since the split. Miz is on an all time great heel run right now, and they've managed to get a really entertaining women's division out of a roster that doesn't look great on paper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Remember when the Wyatt Family came out and fucked up the League of Nations? And the crowd was really into the direction that seems to suggest? ... yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 While we're posting Heenan, this was apparently his final appearance in WCW: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 3 hours ago, turk128 said: Vince is delusional and lives in his own world for sure but... he kinda had this last part right. I mean, I can't imagine WCW being as impactful without those ex WWE guys. (I certainly was amongst those who flipped between the channels for that reason alone. And consequently discover their awesome mid card.) I'll concede that WCW maybe doesn't start topping RAW and winning the Monday Night Wars (for awhile) without the WWF defectors. But my personal viewpoint is that WCW was sorta ruined by the arrival of Hogan, Nash, Hall, Russo (oh, god, Russo), etc. I tend to think of WCW as "before Hogan" and "after Hogan". WCW was really damn good in '92 and '93. and got bad really quickly after Hogan arrived As a fan, there's no question in my mind that WCW was better overall before Hogan, the nWo, and Russo. Granted, that's just my opinion. And that's not to say that WCW wasn't watchable after... well, '96, anyway. From a business perspective, Hogan's arrival may have saved the company for awhile. It's entirely possible that, if Hogan and Russo don't come in, the product is better from '95 on. but doesn't catch on and folds even sooner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 13 hours ago, Brysynner said: I really wish WWE would occasionally send their part timers down to NXT for TV takings. I feel like Lesnar/Roode, Lesnar/Aries, Lesnar/Joe, or let Lesnar squash a new guy like Patrick Clark. WWE does it make everything that happens in NXT canon so let your part timer do a job in NXT and never mention it on WWE TV Do you not understand the economics of why this is, from a business perspective, is a terribly bad idea? 2 hours ago, JohnnyJ said: In retrospect, it probably worked out for the best. I don't think Sting's neck agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 The NWO is literally the only thing that got WCW over the hump. Vince being able to take credit because 2 of the 3 main guys had just worked for him under totally different gimmicks is a bit of a stretch, though. I suppose you could rate that claim as "technically true, but intellectually dishonest." It would be akin to Eric Bischoff taking credit for Steve Austin. The NWO concept wasn't going to work with just any three guys, but those three guys specifically wouldn't have moved the needle much without the NWO concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 5 hours ago, Technico Support said: Meltzer had an anecdote on the last show about how Vince didn't make a play for Sting earlier because he just didn't think Sting was a big deal. The point was the Vince simply could not comprehend that anyone (and this also relates to Goldberg) could be that over without ever being in WWE. Can you imagine the sheer level of self-delusion necessary for that kind of mindset? Like it just did not compute in Vince's head that, if someone was not in WWE/F, he could still be huge and popular with the fans. It's amazing. I always thought it was just a line when Vince said WCW beat them for so long only because they hired ex WWE guys. But holy shit, Vince really believes that. Damn. Then why did he cherry-pick every single wrestler he wanted from other organizations? Why did he hire Flair? It sounds like even though Sting was a draw, Vince just didn't see it for whatever reason, and there could be a million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 16 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Then why did he cherry-pick every single wrestler he wanted from other organizations? Why did he hire Flair? To damage those organizations, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallacy! Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Bruce Prichard says in his latest podcast that Triple H volunteered to go work for ECW several times during the talent exchange the two companies had in 96/97. All this news does is fuel my teenage ECW fanboy conspiracy theory that "The Game" character was a complete ripoff of "The Franchise." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 All this Bobby Heenan talk lets not forget his appearances in TNA: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Fallacy! said: Bruce Prichard says in his latest podcast that Triple H volunteered to go work for ECW several times during the talent exchange the two companies had in 96/97. All this news does is fuel my teenage ECW fanboy conspiracy theory that "The Game" character was a complete ripoff of "The Franchise." Right but it's Prichard's podcast. Anything that's 1) contrary to anything you've ever heard before and 2) very complimentary to WWE is an absolute fabrication. He swears Mania 7 was moved due ton security concerns, WWE had Meltzer on the payroll to report nice things about them, and that all WWE attendance figures are 100% accurate. When called on anything, his only defense is "were YOU in the room?" It's fun to hear Conrad outright call him on his bullshit, though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 7 hours ago, Technico Support said: Meltzer had an anecdote on the last show about how Vince didn't make a play for Sting earlier because he just didn't think Sting was a big deal. The point was the Vince simply could not comprehend that anyone (and this also relates to Goldberg) could be that over without ever being in WWE. Can you imagine the sheer level of self-delusion necessary for that kind of mindset? Like it just did not compute in Vince's head that, if someone was not in WWE/F, he could still be huge and popular with the fans. It's amazing. I always thought it was just a line when Vince said WCW beat them for so long only because they hired ex WWE guys. But holy shit, Vince really believes that. Damn. Not defending Vince being that delusional to think the WCW guys weren't over, but having said all this: I'd still be more indignant against Vince for thinking this way on Meltzer's reports if Dave Meltzer himself uses similar arguments to why Vince couldn't comprehend Sting/Goldberg being that over without a WWE run to claim Sting isn't good enough to be in the Observer Hall of Fame. Really, it's one or the other: Either Vince McMahon has a point Sting wasn't a "big deal" enough to make a play for him earlier, or Meltzer doesn't have a leg to stand on when you say "Sting wasn't enough of a big deal to merit an Observer Hall of Fame spot". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Did Vince think that way when he raided the territories for talent? Did it not matter to him how over Duggan or DIBiase were in Mid-South or Savage in Memphis? Or was he just buying up everyone in sight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 8 hours ago, Technico Support said: Meltzer had an anecdote on the last show about how Vince didn't make a play for Sting earlier because he just didn't think Sting was a big deal. The point was the Vince simply could not comprehend that anyone (and this also relates to Goldberg) could be that over without ever being in WWE. Can you imagine the sheer level of self-delusion necessary for that kind of mindset? Like it just did not compute in Vince's head that, if someone was not in WWE/F, he could still be huge and popular with the fans. It's amazing. I always thought it was just a line when Vince said WCW beat them for so long only because they hired ex WWE guys. But holy shit, Vince really believes that. Damn. He was right. Without the NWO being ex-WWE guys WCW never gets the nationwide attention they received. Oddly enough, the WWE comeback was cemented by the mid-card guys WCW either let go or cast aside. Jericho, Foley, Austin, etc. Hogan would never let guys like Foley, Jericho, and Austin get over him. Never. The history of WCW is such bittersweet irony since the guys cast aside were ultimately the ones responsible for their demise. That night was the first time the WWE reclaimed the Monday Night title in how many weeks never again relinquishing that honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEN! Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Can you make Godzilla stomp on Suplex City in this new WWE game? Cause that's like the only thing I want to see involving Brock Lesnar nowadays. Give me Goldberg vs. Rusev. Or Styles. Or The Big Dog. Fuck a Bork vs. Oldberg match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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