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[OCT 2016] WRESTLING DISCUSSION THREAD


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Maybe I'm a sentimentalist, but to me, Lesnar's face read more, "Holy shit, they love me" and less, "Holy shit, Vince is stupid for doing this." 

Probably because Vince doing stupid shit is par for the course to most people including Lesnar at this point. 

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13 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said:

I'm thinking a little of column A and a lot of column B.

Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking?  It's beyond mind-boggling.  The only way it could be worse is if they have Goldberg heel it up in Atlanta.

Are there any RAWs in Atlanta between now and Survivor Series?

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1 hour ago, rzombie1988 said:

The bigger issue in reality though is that if hardcore fans like myself lose interest, WWE is failing on it's most stable base.

That is a major issue. For myself, after 8 years of watching 99% of the Raws and ppvs, I stopped watching regularly after Mania. The Mania build up really bothered me. Then came the raids on nxt. I turn on Raw now and I'm bitter, confused, bored, tired and angry.(thank goodness for smackdown) After awhile you realize you're no longer enjoying yourself and watching solely out of a sense of obligation. 

That's where the network comes in.  I was never a tape trader. I never had years of classic programming at my finger tips. Why am I forcing myself to watch something I actively hate when there is so much great stuff I haven't seen? And even when its terrible there is no pressure or sense of obligation and I can just move on to something else. 

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28 minutes ago, JohnnyJ said:

 

 I was never a tape trader. I never had years of classic programming at my finger tips. Why am I forcing myself to watch something I actively hate when there is so much great stuff I haven't seen? And even when its terrible there is no pressure or sense of obligation and I can just move on to something else. 

I am a tape trader, so for me, the WWE selection is pretty weak. I would not surprised if I still have more stuff than they do in 10 years, and I haven't traded in a few years. Legit there is stuff I've been waiting 10 years for from WWE 24/7 that never got uploaded.

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See how people were complaining that Mick Foley's character was wildly flip flopping in the build up to HitC. I've figured it out. His split personality is coming back out.

Dude Love thinks it's groovy that the women are getting the chance to be on top, baby. Mankind knows how his body was destroyed in dangerous matches and doesn't want to see younger wrestlers suffer the way he did (and does). Cactus Jack wants to see people get hurt, and doesn't care who or how badly hurt they are.

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11 hours ago, rzombie1988 said:

I think it is a concern if your hardest of hardcore fans are losing interest. I'm pretty sure no one minus WWE wrestlers saw more WWE in 2013-2014 than I did. I didn't even stream nor download the show despite knowing where to find it.

I've always been on the side of "it's better people pirate it than not see it period", because at least people who saw the show talk about it.

 

The Rumble and Mania after Reigns won was really a turning point for me- I quit my subscription and no longer go out of my way for any WWE stuff- I'll watch a show if I feel like it, but that's pretty rare now.  

I enjoyed 2000 WCW more than 2015-2016 WWE.   I'll go out of my way to see LU, but that's it these days.

 

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1 hour ago, alstein said:

 

The Rumble and Mania after Reigns won was really a turning point for me- I quit my subscription and no longer go out of my way for any WWE stuff- I'll watch a show if I feel like it, but that's pretty rare now.  

I enjoyed 2000 WCW more than 2015-2016 WWE.   I'll go out of my way to see LU, but that's it these days.

 

I've really never understood the correlation between "WWE sucks" and "I quit my network subscription because of it."  WWE sucking is more of a reason if anything for me to have a subscription.  So I can watch better stuff from another era. When shitty wrestling is on, I proceed to go find good stuff on the network.  Hell, there are nights I picked 1997 RAWs over the live ones that were airing.

And come on, you can watch almost ANY 1985-1989 NWA at 6:05 Saturday.  Or pull up a random ECW after getting home with a buzz at 2am Saturday night.  It's Tuesday night?  Maybe pull up TNT or Prime Time.  This belief that a month of a decent amount of WWE's library isn't worth what people pay for a lunch is completely asinine.  

Awaiting Matt D to remind us that there is an NWA on Demand network any moment now...

 

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Yep, I can also find old World of Sport stuff, or things that I haven't seen before.  

Yes, the WWE library is worth it, but there are alternatives.   Plus I got 2 hours of non-WWE TV a week to watch if I want it, even if that is kinda meh right now.

 

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