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[OCT 2016] WRESTLING DISCUSSION THREAD


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I am attempting to add a dorky element to my wrestling obsession by making a spreadsheet to track wrestlers progress to determine who is the greatest wrestler according to the point system in place. The following is what I have come up with and am looking for critiques and ideas and solidify my rules before i watch several shows and have to recalculate the results.

I am focusing on individual wrestlers and people (Kane/Isaac Yankem are one person) with submission victories and losses being weighed heavier than a pinfall. Considering only events on the WWE Network starting in 1993, though I will eventually go back to the beginning and add results to my spreadsheet. 

Point system:

Title Win:5
Submission:3 (4 in title match)
Pin:2 (3 in title match)
Winning Tag partner not involved in fall:1
Countout/DQ:1
Double Countout/DQ:0
Losing Tag partner not involved in fall:-1
Pinfall loss:-2
Submission loss:-3

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10 hours ago, Casey said:

What was worse for the McMahon's finances, the XFL or Linda's failed Senate runs? The latter was almost $100mil - a quick Google search doesn't turn up how much they lost on the XFL, but I'm not trying that hard either.

Can't recoup anything on a failed campaign so XFL was clearly the wiser of the two failures and given it was a partnership, it was probably less damaging to the bottom line.

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1 hour ago, Brisco said:

I am attempting to add a dorky element to my wrestling obsession by making a spreadsheet to track wrestlers progress to determine who is the greatest wrestler according to the point system in place. The following is what I have come up with and am looking for critiques and ideas and solidify my rules before i watch several shows and have to recalculate the results.

I am focusing on individual wrestlers and people (Kane/Isaac Yankem are one person) with submission victories and losses being weighed heavier than a pinfall. Considering only events on the WWE Network starting in 1993, though I will eventually go back to the beginning and add results to my spreadsheet. 

Point system:

Title Win:5
Submission:3 (4 in title match)
Pin:2 (3 in title match)
Winning Tag partner not involved in fall:1
Countout/DQ:1
Double Countout/DQ:0
Losing Tag partner not involved in fall:-1
Pinfall loss:-2
Submission loss:-3

Won't a pure points system put an undue emphasis on total longevity? 

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4 minutes ago, piranesi said:

Won't a pure points system put an undue emphasis on total longevity? 

This is possible, though I was hoping the negative points will negate some of this perceived advantage. We all know Cena and Hogan (possibly Triple H) will most likely be the winner, especially with the length of their title reigns.

I thought of adding a way that PPV wins and losses to weigh heavier than TV matches but have not found a way to factor this in.

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So I just got hipped to World of Sport wrestling from across the pond and this stuff is awesome. Is there a collection available, maybe a legit source to watch it? Anything worth hunting down. They say Big Daddy was the man, but he's not doing much for me. Stuff like the Royals vs Saints and that Bearkat is gold imho.

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There's a ton up on youtube. Jim Breaks (best bad guy), Steve Grey(best good guy), Pat Roach(bruiser). Start with those three names. Watch them against a variety of opponents. That'll give you a range. Figure out who you like and who you don't (you'll probably like more than not) and branch out. 

After you watch a bit, double back and make sure to catch Al Hayes vs Steve Veidor, at least one Les Kellett match, and some Alan Sarjent. 

Or you can just say screw it and watch Mark Rocco pretend to be Kurt Angle.

 

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Keep an eye out for Kwik Kick Lee, Sammy Lee and Flying Fuji Yamada. And also Kendo Nagasaki, but for different reasons.

 

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8 hours ago, Marty Sugar said:

I've never met Ricky Knight but after his recent rants on Twitter...I kinda fucking hate the guy.

Your first mistake is reading Twitter.

I kinda suspect that, if I followed people's twitter accounts more closely, there wouldn't be anyone I didn't hate after awhile.

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