Dolfan in NYC Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 And in the "oh boy" section of things, 110 of 111 NFL Players in an autopsy study had CTE. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/25/sports/football/nfl-cte.html?hp&target=comments This comes with the grain of salt that there is a MASSIVE selection bias at play. The brains donated were for players whose families said had displayed signs of CTE. And those collected represented ~9% of the total deaths among NFL players. But, Jesus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLSigman Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 16 hours ago, supremebve said: Lucky "I need a new nickname" Whitehead, got cut from the Cowboys for getting arrested for shoplifting then skipping his court date. Except, he didn't actually steal anything. He wasn't even in the state where the stealing happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Wait, what? I'm beyond confused. If he didn't steal anything and wasn't in the state when it happened...then how could he be guilty of any wrongdoing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Craig H said: Wait, what? I'm beyond confused. If he didn't steal anything and wasn't in the state when it happened...then how could he be guilty of any wrongdoing? Someone, who did steal something told the police he was Lucky Whitehead, and somehow knew his social security number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 That's not good, but it's funny to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 It almost has to be someone who is tangentially related to Whitehead - unless criminals are now just memorize random folks details on the off change the cops bust them But yeah - basically the story is Dude robs a Wawa. Gets caught Doesn't have ID Gives the cops Whitehead's name, birthday AND social security number Cops run it and the picture that comes up looks "close enough" to the guy that was arrested that he gets a citation to appear in court. Except the citation is for Whitehead. Court date comes and the guy who was caught obviously no show. Warrant for Whitehead's arrest is issued. Whitehead and his agent both say they didn't even know about the court date until the media asked them about it. His agent provides proof that Whitehead was either on a plane or had flow within 2 hours of the time the dude was getting busted (I forget the exact details here) The cops confirm it was mistaken ID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Cops run it and the picture that comes up looks "close enough" I really want to see what the actual thief looks like. Police and their opinion of what is "close enough," gets tricky. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 54 minutes ago, RIPPA said: It almost has to be someone who is tangentially related to Whitehead - unless criminals are now just memorize random folks details on the off change the cops bust them But yeah - basically the story is Dude robs a Wawa. Gets caught Doesn't have ID Gives the cops Whitehead's name, birthday AND social security number Cops run it and the picture that comes up looks "close enough" to the guy that was arrested that he gets a citation to appear in court. Except the citation is for Whitehead. Court date comes and the guy who was caught obviously no show. Warrant for Whitehead's arrest is issued. Whitehead and his agent both say they didn't even know about the court date until the media asked them about it. Gets fired His agent provides proof that Whitehead was either on a plane or had flow within 2 hours of the time the dude was getting busted (I forget the exact details here) The cops confirm it was mistaken ID You left out an important bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 This is how I imagine the conversation in the Whitehead house went... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 That is kind of the flaw in the court system, proving something didn't happen is hard as hell. "Where were you between the hours of 11:30PM and 6:00 AM on September 24th?" "I was sleep." "Can you prove that?" "I was sleep, with my wife." "Sorry, she can't testify in a trial where you are being charged." "You want me to prove what time I was sleep on some random day in September, but I can't call on the only witness?" "If you don't want to go to jail, yeah." If you get charged with a crime you didn't commit, that is essentially the process. It is damn near impossible to prove a negative. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 On 7/25/2017 at 2:40 PM, RIPPA said: That story is so fucking weird I mean the dude arrested in VA just HAPPENED to have Whitehead's date of birth and social security # fucking memorized It sounds like he was up all night to get Lucky. . . . I'm sorry. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 You should be. For many things. Mostly Vikings related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 17 hours ago, Ryan said: You should be. For many things. Mostly Vikings related. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dewar Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 2017-07-30 at 2:39 AM, Ryan said: Forward progress stopped. Should not be a fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Yeah, no. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Was listening to Joe and Evan on WFAN (My first mistake) when the topic of that naive kid on the Jets who said a football field would be the perfect place to die came up (and worse the fans in attendance who wildly cheered that comment). Joe talked about how as a Jets fan he loved the comment because it showed his "commitment" to the team. Evan agreed. I turned off my radio in disgust. The perfect place to die is in a hospital in your 90's surrounded by your children, your grandchildren and your great grandchildren. It is NOT on a football field in your early 20's. The fact that needs to be said is scary. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Barring that, in your 110s, surrounded by weed and hookers on your yacht mansion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Puppy gifs ahoy! Jarvis Landry under investigation for battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 Cris Carter of all people is claiming Zeke will be suspended http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/07/league-office-apparently-leaks-details-of-looming-ezekiel-elliott-suspension/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 This is the issue with both of those cases, which I realize has been stated - I'm not really a fan of the NFL doing really long investigations and coming to a different conclusion than cops/prosecutors did. Its not that I think cops/prosecutors are perfect and always make the right decision, I just think its still an over-reaction to the Ray Rice situation which was different since there was a video that they saw and then did nothing about until the public saw it. If someone committed domestic battery, I am all for throwing the book at them. But the iffy "well he may have but we can't prove it for sure" cases that drag six months or a year or longer don't do anyone any favors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 The burden of proof is different. For example Greg Hardy being found not guilty in a court of law didnt mean he couldn't have been disciplined for those action through behavior/code of conduct policies of the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, EdA said: Puppy gifs ahoy! Jarvis Landry under investigation for battery. Yeah, well she signed an affadavit at the scene absolving him of any physical violence. And there's apparently tape showing he did nothing. So, no puppy gifs for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Wait, I just remembered Jay Cutler and his non-child-vaccinating ass is my team's starting QB. Now shuppit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 18 hours ago, Infinit said: The burden of proof is different. For example Greg Hardy being found not guilty in a court of law didnt mean he couldn't have been disciplined for those action through behavior/code of conduct policies of the NFL. Hardy was a bizarro case where they had proof and testimony, he was charged and found guilty in one trial, then he was only found 'not guilty' when the person he abused didn't cooperate the second time. These two cases there weren't even charges, let alone a trial where evidence came out that the NFL could use to make their own conclusion. So there is a lot less to pull a conclusive result from which is why the NFL has been "investigating" for a full year. I'm all for people getting punished for domestic abuse, I just don't trust the NFL to do a 'better" investigation than the prosecutors did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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