EVA Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 11 hours ago, piranesi said: It's a nice shot. But I would argue it's beaten a dozen times in almost any episode of anything produced by Bryan Fuller. The last season of HANNIBAL alone probably has half a dozen shots of people sprouting literal or symbolic wings that are more powerful. This is a nice shot, but also kind of flat and emotionless. Like, you can tell it was composed by dudes who aren’t necessarily visual artists, who don’t know how to give an image power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I disagree. Seems like it's a shot that has garnered universal praise, I thought it was neat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I loved Hannibal TV as well, so you'll get no argument from me on that show's trippy imagery. Still amazes me that show used to air on NBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I had this exact conversation with my best friend as we were watching it. He looked at it and said, "wow, that's an amazing shot." I looked at him and deadpanned, "yeah, and it was so subtle." It can be both a great shot and ham-handed and completely unnecessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I thought it was a good shot, impressive but not, like, legendary. I also found it interesting they basically went all Riefenstahl on basically that whole sequence. Again, subtly was not a strong suit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Same as The Last Jedi.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, L_W_P said: Does anyone listen to the Nerd Soup podcast? They spoke about a theory going around that D&D turned down longer seasons because they wanted to be able to sign on for Star Wars. If GoT ran 10 ep seasons for the last 2 seasons they wouldn't have been available so they made the call to shorten things despite HBO wanting full length. Not quite that wording, but here's what David Benioff did say: https://ew.com/tv/2019/04/09/game-of-thrones-season-8-showrunners-interview/ Quote You told me back when filming season 3 that you were thinking of doing the final season as three movies because you couldn’t imagine pulling off what you and George had in mind on a television budget. Do you feel like you’ve been able to do what you envisioned years ago? WEISS: Yes. To their credit, they put their money where their mouths are — literally stuffed their mouth full of million-dollar bills which don’t exist anymore. They said, “We’ll give you the resources to make this what it needs to be, and if what it needs to be is a summer tentpole-size spectacle in places, then that’s what it will be.” BENIOFF: HBO would have been happy for the show to keep going, to have more episodes in the final season. We always believed it was about 73 hours, and it will be roughly that. As much as they wanted more, they understood that this is where the story ends. https://ew.com/article/2015/03/11/game-thrones-end/ Quote “This is the hard part of what we do,” sighs HBO programming president Michael Lombardo. “We started this journey with David and Dan. It’s their vision. Would I love the show to go 10 years as both a fan and a network executive? Absolutely…If they weren’t comfortable going beyond seven seasons, I trust them implicitly and trust that’s the right decision—as horrifying as that is to me.” George RR Martin has made statements saying that the show could've gone on several more seasons but Benioff and Weiss were basically done with it and were ready to move on. I've heard rumors they wanted to be done with it and move onto Star Wars. I've yet to see it confirmed anywhere they rushed through the end of the show they'd be free to do Star Wars next. Quote "I don't know," Martin said. "Ask David [Benioff] and Dan [Weiss] when they come through. We could have gone to 11, 12, 13 seasons, but I guess they wanted a life.” Edited May 24, 2019 by TheVileOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 well it's clear that 73 hours wasn't enough. Needed 80+ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigertooth Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I wonder if there was ever an option to let D&D go do their thing and let GoT continue with a different showrunner? Maybe the contracts made that impossible - I have no idea how that stuff works - but if D&D already had the SW gig signed, sealed, and delivered, I'd think they'd be fine with letting someone else take over. Even after season 7, I'd think that if someone else took over and the ending didn't go well, the blame would be on the new person, not D&D. Seems pretty win-win for them. Whereas now they're known as the guys who finished things up hamfistedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 The irony being that their initial Star Wars press junket will now be loaded with vaguely critical "What did the GoT experience teach you and what would you do differently now?" sorts of questions--to say nothing of the lack of excitement now attached to their involvement. Oh well. Anyway, despite my better judgment it seems I'm going to watch this whole series again. Already. Everyone looks so young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beech27 said: The irony being that their initial Star Wars press junket will now be loaded with vaguely critical "What did the GoT experience teach you and what would you do differently now?" sorts of questions--to say nothing of the lack of excitement now attached to their involvement. Oh well. Anyway, despite my better judgment it seems I'm going to watch this whole series again. Already. Everyone looks so young. I hope they get some baited questions from this nice lady at the New York Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 15 hours ago, TheVileOne said: George RR Martin has made statements saying that the show could've gone on several more seasons but Benioff and Weiss were basically done with it and were ready to move on. I've heard rumors they wanted to be done with it and move onto Star Wars. I've yet to see it confirmed anywhere they rushed through the end of the show they'd be free to do Star Wars next. The quote *REALLY* reads as GRRM saying, "Please finish my homework for me." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turk128 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Am I the only one who thought the new council meeting was amongst the most entertaining part of this season? Everyone was an oddball/worst choice for their seat but the repertoire was fantastic. A spinoff around this group would be great; just them talking it out, no violence, lot of facepalm or speechless reactions, etc. The Thick of It Westeros edition.* *Capaldi cast for one of the missing seats of course. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Not to dredge things up, but I did find this funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/game-of-thrones-night-king-storyline-gets-torched-by-federal-judge/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 So these are the Obama-appointed activist judges Agent Orange is always complaining about? I don't see a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 B&W pull out of appearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 For the best. We don't need a Szechuan-esque display of impotent nerd-rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Did anyone see that Twitter thread over the weekend about a panel that David Benioff and D.B. Weiss did? It is amazing that the show was even half as good as it was. It's pretty clear that they had no idea what they were doing and had very little interest in actually making the kind of show they were making. They have a general disdain for all things fantasy, and admittedly had no clue whatsoever what they were doing. For instance, two months before the pilot, episodes were an average of 39 minutes until HBO told them, they needed to write and film 100 minutes just to fulfill their contract. They also admit that they didn't understand the characters and relied on the actors to fill them out. They also had no experience whatsoever. It's just weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, supremebve said: . It's just weird. You'd think that anyone using the hashtag #DnD would know something about fantasy settings, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, J.T. said: You'd think that anyone using the hashtag #DnD would know something about fantasy settings, right? Once I read the thread, I feel like we should have seen some of this stuff. I was pretty critical of how they presented a lot of the stuff that happened after they moved past the books and I feel like their disdain for the more fantastical moments are a huge part of it. DnD letting the actors take reigns of their characters makes me believe that Lena Headey needs to be working more. Show Cersei is a different, and in my opinion, better villain than she was in the books. In the books, she's pretty much an incapable, insane person, who only has power because she was born in the right family. Tyrion is capable, Tywin is capable, Jamie is capable, but Cersei is a huge liability to the Lannister cause. Show Cersei is overly capable, ruthless, and holds on to power with a glass of wine in her hand and a smirk on her face. She is full of earned confidence, because she knows she's willing to do whatever it takes to keep the throne and everyone else has a line they won't cross. It also probably means that Bran's blank face non-acting could have been avoided. Seriously, I really don't want to know what the show would have been if the cast was 20% less talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Wow. That whole thread and all of the replies from others. Holy shit. It's a miracle the show wasn't cancelled or DnD weren't fired. At this point, if you're Kevin Feige or Kathleen Kennedy, you can't let these assholes make a Star Wars trilogy. It just can't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) On that note, I hope Lauren Hissrich is not in over her head for The Witcher. I definitely got the sense for a while that Benioff and Weiss basically lucked into Game of Thrones. And now they are getting 9 figure paydays from Netflix. Will be curious to see what they deliver there They are being paid on the strength of what they delivered with Game of Thrones, but can they really come up with someone even half as close to that again? Edited October 28, 2019 by TheVileOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Craig H said: Wow. That whole thread and all of the replies from others. Holy shit. It's a miracle the show wasn't cancelled or DnD weren't fired. At this point, if you're Kevin Feige or Kathleen Kennedy, you can't let these assholes make a Star Wars trilogy. It just can't happen. I agree and disagree. I think they are complete hacks as writers, but there is something to letting the talent be the talent that made Game of Thrones into something that was good to great more often than not. I think they need a strong script supervisor who has the ability to edit/rewrite all their dumb ass ideas. 1 minute ago, TheVileOne said: On that note, I hope Lauren Hissrich is not in over her head for The Witcher. She actually has experience that makes me thinks she has an idea about how to run a show. DnD were just dudes with an idea who everyone just let do whatever they wanted to do. There aren't a lot of women who get to fake their way into jobs like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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