Niners Fan in CT Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 hours ago, EVA said: But they skipped it. Probably, as with most of the issues this season, because they didn't give themselves enough episodes. "We're out of time!" - Tony Schiavone. That was not just season 8 but also season 7 which oddly received rave reviews. I had the same issues with the pacing last season but I thought well Martin told them the ending so it'll all work itself out which is kind of true in a way but there needed to be much more time for this to feel satisfying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AxB Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Beech27 said: Dinklage was (not surprisingly) great; but I think it's worth pointing out how good Emilia Clarke was at selling something that--if her interviews are to be believed--legitimately stunned her. (And I think it's fair to say she may have actively disliked/disagreed with some of it.) Considering how maligned she was early in the show, it's pretty impressive how the consensus has shifted that, despite criticism of her arc, no one faults her for the portrayal. You know how, when they were putting the Harry Potter movie together, as soon as Alan Rickman was confirmed as Severus Snape JK told him the character's big secret (which wasn't even in the books at that point) so he could play the role in such a way as the twist would be believeable? D&D should have told Emilia Clarke five years ago that this was where she was headed. Daenerys was played as a fundamentally altruistic character for far too long. If she had raged with anger when Ser Barristan died, showed us that she couldn't cope with the loss of a loyal servant then (they did show that she was sociopathic towards allies who betrayed her in the first two seasons), her subsequent behaviour might have been more comprehensible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, AxB said: You know how, when they were putting the Harry Potter movie together, as soon as Alan Rickman was confirmed as Severus Snape JK told him the character's big secret (which wasn't even in the books at that point) so he could play the role in such a way as the twist would be believeable? D&D should have told Emilia Clarke five years ago that this was where she was headed. Daenerys was played as a fundamentally altruistic character for far too long. If she had raged with anger when Ser Barristan died, showed us that she couldn't cope with the loss of a loyal servant then (they did show that she was sociopathic towards allies who betrayed her in the first two seasons), her subsequent behaviour might have been more comprehensible. I’m reminded of Laurence Olivier’s famous “It’s called acting quip” when measures are taken to ensure a real performance. (Quite the contradiction in terms.) Mostly I’m reminded because Clarke just said D&D told her to think of Dany as Lawrence of Arabia—a would be savior who is doomed by that very complex. If I wanted to play devil’s advocate—I don’t!—I’d note that maybe Dany snapping justifies a sudden change in acting perspective. (And, better fan theories aside, we are told by the writers that she did basically go over the edge in that one moment.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, L_W_P said: THANK YOU! Seeing Grey Worm have that internal debate, trying to work out and understand what it means to be free, to CHOOSE FOR HIMSELF was something that could have been incredible. Waving it away off screen was frustrating as hell. I can’t buy that a leaderless Greyworm and Dothraki tribe would’ve taken Jon prisoner either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 1:24 PM, jaedmc said: At this rate we'll probably get fucking shitbird Bran ruling the kingdom. The worst. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I'm actually surprised this board isn't too heated about the finale overall. Twitter was in complete meltdown and over on RT the finale is the worst reviewed episode of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I think most of us had already entered acceptance stage. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I thought the finale itself was pretty satisfying. I think they obviously skipped a lot of narrative and character steps over the last two years (season 7 was pretty easily my least favorite) but it all mostly wound up in the right places. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, L_W_P said: Would the Dothraki Horde really just settle down and accept Grey Worm as leader? Unlikely. They share no language. Dothraki speak Dothraki, Grey Worm speaks Low Valyrian and the common tongue of Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I'm actually surprised this board isn't too heated about the finale overall. Twitter was in complete meltdown and over on RT the finale is the worst reviewed episode of the series. It doesn't bother me that much. I never had much emotional attachment to the series. Season 8 makes me very happy about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I was about as attached to this as I was Breaking Bad but the series has been so tremendous over the years that I can't go on some "it's ruined forever" rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 My main thought afterwards was that we all misread Bran and he's been playing everyone for a few seasons now. If someone can see all of history and good chunks of the future, has shown to be capable of shaping events and moving pieces to where they need to be (albeit not as frequently as one would have assumed he would) and somehow at the end of the story ends up as king I think it is fair to wonder if not assume that was not an accident. Granted I'm too lazy to go rewatch the last few seasons (since he got his powers) to see how well supported that thought is, but I don't trust him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_h Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 44 minutes ago, username said: My main thought afterwards was that we all misread Bran and he's been playing everyone for a few seasons now. If someone can see all of history and good chunks of the future, has shown to be capable of shaping events and moving pieces to where they need to be (albeit not as frequently as one would have assumed he would) and somehow at the end of the story ends up as king I think it is fair to wonder if not assume that was not an accident. Granted I'm too lazy to go rewatch the last few seasons (since he got his powers) to see how well supported that thought is, but I don't trust him. #BranknewKingsLandingwouldburn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystman Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, keith_h said: #BranknewKingsLandingwouldburn Is Bran Bloodraven? Does Bryden Rivers sit upon the Iron Throne (or whatever they use now?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, keith_h said: #BranknewKingsLandingwouldburn I don't know if it was intentional or not, but none of this Bran stuff comes off like a good thing for Westeros' future. When he says, "Why do you think I came all this way," it's like Bran knew all of this would happen and play out this exact way. Making Wikipedia your king doesn't seem like a way to forge peace. Insert image from URL Edited May 21, 2019 by TheVileOne 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt D Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, cwoy2j said: Ok, that's how Jon survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tigertooth Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Latest notion bumping around the tubes: after the failure of the White Walkers, the Children of the Forest created the Three-Eyed Raven as a second attempt to retake the realms of men. And this time it worked. Now Bran/3ER is ruler for life (which could be centuries, based on the previous 3ER). And he's off to warg up Drogon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Every time I hear those assholes explain how someone just forgot some shit that is either a huge part of their culture or vital to their survival a baby dragon dies. So going forward, who do you think fills out the more vital parts of the Westerosi government? Currently we have Bronn as Master of Coin, Davos as Master of Ships, Sam as Grand Maester, Brienne as Lord Commander of the King's Guard, and Tyrion as Hand of the King. We need a Master of Whispers, a Master of Laws, and to fill out the King's Guard with someone other than Pod. Master of Whispers This should be Bronn, he has no business being the Master of Coin. Can he even read? So, let's put Wyman Manderley here as Master of Whispers. If Bran decided to move his throne to the North this would be a no brainer. He'd have to learn his way around King's Landing, but he's proven to be a great spymaster. Master of Laws Bronze Yohn Royce, a just man who takes no shit. He's perfect for the job. Kings Guard: Pod Lyle Crakehall...aka Strongboar. He's comparable in size to The Mountain, but is "slower and less savage," according to Jaime. Lyn Corbrey...Knight of the Vale who carries a Valyrian Steel sword named Lady Forlorn. He's a hothead and maybe a little shady, but there are slim pickings these days Garlan Tyrell...he wasn't in the show, which means he didn't die in the show. He's a better warrior than his brother Loras, which is no easy feat. Victorian Greyjoy...he's dumb as rocks, but that man can flat out fight Archibald Yronwood...Barristan Selmy looked at him as "true steel" and if he's good enough for Barriston, he's good enough for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EVA Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 That dude has no loyalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Sounds pretty much like he said on 60 Minutes. Same endings for the main characters, different endings for the secondary characters but of course way more detail and different paths to get there. http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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