Dolfan in NYC Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, RonL21 said: Isn't Jon technically a Stark, though. It's just that he's Lyanna's kid True, but he's not Ned's son and thus falls WAY back to any line of succession. Mind you, this talk is getting too far into the weeds... but fuckface Littlefinger turning Sansa against Jon just needs a small push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 hours ago, J.T. said: If she does that, then she is a even bigger idiot than Cersei is. Cersei is the queen and after the stunt Urine pulled last night she just took the lead in the battle for the Seven Kingdoms. She's not the smartest but she makes moves that somehow work out for her. Sansa has been dumb since day one ish, and has only failed upwards. Her lack of vision is astounding. She is the JaVale McGee of Game of Thrones. A success only because she's hung around all-stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 hours ago, J.T. said: If she does that, then she is a even bigger idiot than Cersei is. If Sansa entertains Baelish's power schemes while he twirls his moustache, they'll be nothing left to rule after the White Walker Invasion Tour pays a visit to Winterfell. Just as Ned's way of doing business doesn't work down south in the capital of political machination, LF's divisive scheming doesn't work in the middle of a life or death struggle against a common enemy that kills indiscriminately like a harsh northern winter, especially when the winter comes personified by a frozen Lich. And I hope we get the catharsis of that dawning on him before he gets got 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 now is not the time or place to be the scorpion of The Scorpion And The Frog fame and that's what LF is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, BobbyWhioux said: Just as Ned's way of doing business doesn't work down south in the capital of political machination, LF's divisive scheming doesn't work in the middle of a life or death struggle against a common enemy that kills indiscriminately like a harsh northern winter, especially when the winter comes personified by a frozen Lich. And I hope we get the catharsis of that dawning on him before he gets got Pretty much this. Plus, Jon already paid for his ignorance and naivete when his brothers in the Night's Watch murdered him. I don't think something like that happens a second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throat Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 The pointlessness of the game isn't just limited to Littlefinger. The threat of the white walkers makes all the political scheming and various factions battling each other throughout the series seem like a tremendous waste of time. It's like a reverse Walking Dead. There the walkers have become an afterthought and all that matters now are the different groups of horrible people fighting for power. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 30 minutes ago, Craig H said: Pretty much this. Plus, Jon already paid for his ignorance and naivete when his brothers in the Night's Watch murdered him. I don't think something like that happens a second time. Nothing about this show makes me optimistic that a character can fuck up and not get killed, even if they've already come back to life. In fact that makes it even more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, Throat said: The pointlessness of the game isn't just limited to Littlefinger. The threat of the white walkers makes all the political scheming and various factions battling each other throughout the series seem like a tremendous waste of time. It's also really realistic. Politicians will be fighting over who is "better for coal country" from their oxygen pods under our new PanOcean. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I'm trying to remember: Was Tryion privy to the fact that Casterly Rock's mines are no longer producing gold when they orchestrated the wedding to the Tyrells? I'm guessing the logic behind taking out the Rock is more of a cut off their money rather than an embarass his sister by taking her home from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Couple things I've been thinking about. Shouldn't Jon be aware that Littlefinger did Ned dirty? Cat seemed to be aware of it. I'm forgetting now because it was so long ago but I feel like people would know and someone would tell Jon. I see no reason why Littlefinger is alive after what he said about Sansa. I don't think The Vale would give a shit if Baelish died. I was also thinking about Qyburn. He's been holding down the Lannisters for a long time now. Does his arrow launcher have a chance in hell of working though? I'm not sure I liked that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 48 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I was also thinking about Qyburn. He's been holding down the Lannisters for a long time now. Does his arrow launcher have a chance in hell of working though? I'm not sure I liked that idea. No worries. Our tests have demonstrated that on a clear day with little to no wind, the Star Wars Dragon Defense and Intercept system can easily destroy any dragon flying directly toward it, not breathing fire on it, not zig zagging in any way, and maintaining a perfect level attitude and altitude and a perfectly straight neck, upwards of 16% of the time.* * Note: we have only tested this on one previously deceased dragon that was sitting in our basement where we built the Star Wars Dragon Defense and Intercept System directly in front of it. We have not yet attempted to move the Star Wars Dragon Defense and Intercept system from our basement because it is very delicate and the steps are very narrow. However you will notice that n the time we since we built the Star Wars Dragon Defense and Intercept System exactly 0 times has that previously deceased dragon successfully attacked King's Landing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Qyburn does strike me as a Cardinals fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Qyburn would be a Cardinals fan. The Lannisters, except Tyrion, would be Yankees fans. Tyrion might be a Cubs fan. Littlefinger would be a...Giants fan? The Hound thinks baseball should fuck off. Beric and his other friend are definitely Cubs fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 See how Robb's first big mistake was sending Theon to treat with Balon Greyjoy, instead of keeping Theon close and sending someone else? Jon should have said to Littlefinger: "I'm going to meet Queen Daenerys, and you're coming with me whether you like it or not". Forcing Baelish to reunite with Varys and Tyrion, on terms other than his own, is exactly the sort of thing a wise ruler would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 31 minutes ago, Craig H said: Qyburn would be a Cardinals fan. The Lannisters, except Tyrion, would be Yankees fans. Tyrion might be a Cubs fan. Littlefinger would be a...Giants fan? The Hound thinks baseball should fuck off. Beric and his other friend are definitely Cubs fans. Littlefinger, much like the Tyrells, is a fan of "Whoever Won The World Series Last Year" (he'd be a big fan of Theo Epstein and Billy Beane though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 When asked what baseball team he roots for, Littlefinger would respond "Sorry, I don't watch baseball. Let's talk about Premier League instead." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Shouldn't Jon be aware that Littlefinger did Ned dirty? Cat seemed to be aware of it. I'm forgetting now because it was so long ago but I feel like people would know and someone would tell Jon. I see no reason why Littlefinger is alive after what he said about Sansa. I don't think The Vale would give a shit if Baelish died. Cat thought LF was a little sketchy and she knew he had a permanent crush on her (he was fostered with the Tully kids growing up) but she made the severe mistake of thinking that crush motivated him to help her when it was actually motivating him to fuck over Ned so he could have her. I think the only person left who knows LF did Ned dirty is Cersei who's damn glad he did it so LF's pretty much gotten away clean there. He did, however, murder Lysa Arryn-Tully and sell Sansa to The Boltons and Sansa is firsthand eyewitness to both. If she chooses to come clean to Lord Royce Littlefinger's ass is grass and The Vale Army is truly hers. So the question then becomes why doesn't she? Or as Brienne so astutely asked in episode 1 "why is he still here?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, BobbyWhioux said: I think the only person left who knows LF did Ned dirty is Cersei who's damn glad he did it so LF's pretty much gotten away clean there. Varys knows. He was in the room when it happened. I mean, he'd have known if he wasn't there too, but he was an eyewitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonL21 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Spoiler I wonder if they're gonna go into the fact that in the books, Euron finds Dragonbinder when he was exiled, which allows him to control dragons. I wasn't sure if everyone read all the books so I just spoilered this in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 17 hours ago, jaedmc said: Cersei is the queen and after the stunt Urine pulled last night she just took the lead in the battle for the Seven Kingdoms. The funny thing is that as long as the White Walkers are marching south, no one is in the lead for the battle for the Seven Kingdoms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 15 hours ago, piranesi said: "Jon remembering "Hey, I'm a Stark! I need to do something butch and dumb that will get me shivved A SECOND TIME~!" Fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 No love for the show finally getting around to pointing out the hitch in the Prince That Was Promised prophecy with Missandei standing in for Maester Aemon? Talk about footnotes and shotgun plotlines.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 42 minutes ago, J.T. said: No love for the show finally getting around to pointing out the hitch in the Prince That Was Promised prophecy with Missandei standing in for Maester Aemon? Talk about footnotes and shotgun plotlines.. I'm willing to have Missandei stand in for anybody anywhere. Just saying. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I'm really wondering if we get the reveal next week right before Dany decides to do away with Jon that Varys knows about Jon's parantage and drops the knowledge to save his ass, or if we're still at 2 people living know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 14 hours ago, Craig H said: Qyburn would be a Cardinals fan. The Lannisters, except Tyrion, would be Yankees fans. Tyrion might be a Cubs fan. Littlefinger would be a...Giants fan? The Hound thinks baseball should fuck off. Beric and his other friend are definitely Cubs fans. The Hound thinks all baseball fans are cunts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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