Craig H Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Seeing Ed Sheeran show up on GoT was one of the bigger "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT" type of moments I've had watching a TV show that wasn't WWE where I've been beaten into apathy. When I think of GoT, I don't think of STUNT CASTING, and then here's this weirdo ginger motherfucker singing in the woods. Based on the "Previously on" intro showing the Hound and Arya stealing gold from the father and daughter, I figured they would show us that despite everything, the Hound and Arya have both grown quite a bit. While Arya has grown darker, she still recalls why its important to not steal from actual good people and the Hound realizes he could have done more to help someone innocent live. Anyway, that was my main issue with this episode. Even still, I loved everything with the Hound and I loved the continued beating of the drums leading to CLEGANEBOWL. We're going to get that fight and if the Hound loses, we riot. Shit is going to get burned down. Oh, my one other issue was Jaime calling Euron out on being crazy when Euron wasn't really acting all that crazy. Spoiler I'm guessing that Euron either brings Cersei the dragonbinder or manages to kidnap Tyrion. Probably the former. EDIT: Putting something in spoilers just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 10 hours ago, piranesi said: But who in the fuck were those precious cunts singing about kisses? Was anyone else flabbergasted that they didn't try to roofie or jump Arya and end up getting chumped to death and their eyeballs stuffed up eachothers cunts? WHAT WORLD DID THOSE DUDES COME FROM BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE ONE I'VE BEEN WATCHING???? WHERE HAVE THE PEOPLE LIKE THAT BEEN FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS???? The thing that bothered me about that scene is that those dudes were in full Lannister armor. I'd get it if they were broke ass farmers who were called by their liege lord to fight a war, but they were dressed like professional soldiers. If you signed up to be a professional soldier in the Lannister army, I don't buy that you are some dude singing about kissing your sweetheart. You don't sign up to be a professional killer in that world unless you want to rape and pillage. If you want to be some sort of noble fighter, you sign up to be a squire in hopes to be a knight, you don't sign up to be a sworn sword to a ruthless lord who encourages the mistreatment of the small folk, unless you want to mistreat small folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I love that the Hound's biggest fear and weakness has become his biggest strength and power. That's some super-hero level shit right there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throat Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Craig H said: I'm guessing that Euron either brings Cersei the dragonbinder or manages to kidnap Tyrion. Should we be talking about Dragonbinder in this thread? I'll spoilerize my comments on it. I feel that at this point, with the odds stacked against Cersei, Dragonbinder has to be what Euron brings to her. How else can she stand a chance? Such a stupid plot device, though. Oh, you're in control of three massively destructive weapons that haven't been seen in centuries? I happen to have the perfect thing to seize control of them! Something that was previously unheard of! It would've helped a bit if it had been introduced earlier. I haven't read the books, but I know the concept of dragon horns wasn't just tossed out there once the dragons arrived in Westeros. Maybe Jon will suddenly remember a white walker horn he forgot he had in his pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, Throat said: Should we be talking about Dragonbinder in this thread? I'll spoilerize my comments on it. Reveal hidden contents I feel that at this point, with the odds stacked against Cersei, Dragonbinder has to be what Euron brings to her. How else can she stand a chance? Such a stupid plot device, though. Oh, you're in control of three massively destructive weapons that haven't been seen in centuries? I happen to have the perfect thing to seize control of them! Something that was previously unheard of! It would've helped a bit if it had been introduced earlier. I haven't read the books, but I know the concept of dragon horns wasn't just tossed out there once the dragons arrived in Westeros. Maybe Jon will suddenly remember a white walker horn he forgot he had in his pocket? Fair enough. I could swear that it was referenced on the show before, but it's possible I'm mixing up the books with the tv show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throat Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I hope you're right and it's just Tyrion. Holding someone important to Daenerys hostage as a deterrent would be a much more reasonable way of giving Cersei an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 BTW, I was completely underwhelmed by the ending of the finale. They haven't really emphasized how important or monumental that homecoming was, compared to the Starks taking back Winterfell last season. In fact, until Jaime mentioned where Dany would be landing, I hadn't even given it much thought. Then you get to the end and the music swells and it just felt flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Craig H said: BTW, I was completely underwhelmed by the ending of the finale. They haven't really emphasized how important or monumental that homecoming was, compared to the Starks taking back Winterfell last season. In fact, until Jaime mentioned where Dany would be landing, I hadn't even given it much thought. Then you get to the end and the music swells and it just felt flat. I don't know, I thought it was effective. She spent all this time trying to get back home, and she was able to walk into the castle where she was born. I guess it was kind of like starting the Super Bowl with a touchback, anti climactic, but still the game is just getting started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 How do you book Ed Sheeran and NOT have the hound decapitate him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 6 hours ago, supremebve said: The thing that bothered me about that scene is that those dudes were in full Lannister armor. I'd get it if they were broke ass farmers who were called by their liege lord to fight a war, but they were dressed like professional soldiers. If you signed up to be a professional soldier in the Lannister army, I don't buy that you are some dude singing about kissing your sweetheart. You don't sign up to be a professional killer in that world unless you want to rape and pillage. If you want to be some sort of noble fighter, you sign up to be a squire in hopes to be a knight, you don't sign up to be a sworn sword to a ruthless lord who encourages the mistreatment of the small folk, unless you want to mistreat small folk. Who says they signed up? My guess is they were conscripted in because Cersei is less picky about boots on the ground after Wildfiring half the city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Also, sleaze thread entrant Euron Greyjoy... Can't wait to see how this pans out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcosLoura Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Ed Sheeran aside I liked the episode, specially Euron's throne scene (he acted way more like Jack Sparrow than CRAZY (yet stern) MAN). I agree with Pete regarding the soldiers, I think the point of the scene was that after all those years of war and shit most of what's left of King's Landing armies are boys... boys of summer. The ending also fell flat to me. I feel that Emilia Clarke is way below everyone else acting-wise, harsh contrast between her and both Sophie and Kit, who I feel that grew their acting chops the most. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 100% agree about Clarke's acting not keeping pace with the others. Which is odd because she was the clear standout back in the beginning. But everybody else got worlds better (even if some, like Kit Harrington, haven't translated it to their work away from the show), and she didn't. I imagine a big factor in that is that the other young actors got to spend the previous 6 seasons sharing scenes with a litany of great actors in Westeros and learning from them, while she got parked in Essos without a lot of help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Are you trying to say that Grey Worm and the hacker woman in the last two Fast movies didn't help Clarke become a better actor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 At least she had Iain Glen with her most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Pete said: Who says they signed up? My guess is they were conscripted in because Cersei is less picky about boots on the ground after Wildfiring half the city. The reason I don't think they were conscripted is that you don't outfit draftees in expensive ass armor when you are struggling to feed them. That armor is ornate, and probably has to be custom fitted, you think the Lannisters give a set to every man of fighting age? No, the vast majority of their forces would be dressed in cheap leather armor if they had any armor at all. Most of the people fighting in these wars are dead broke and work on some random lord's land. Most of those people don't even have swords, let alone full sets of armor given out by members of the ruling class. The Lannisters are Wardens of the West, they have a standing army of professional soldiers, those are the people who would be wearing that armor. The only real reason to join that army is if you survive you get to rape and pillage the losers. The Lannisters entire war strategy is to brutalize their opponents so badly that everyone thinks twice before starting a conflict with them. They raped, pillaged, and burned their way through The Riverlands, led by The Mountain...the Lannister forces aren't there to make friends with the locals. Like I said before, if you have the skill to be a soldier, but aren't interested in plundering, there are systems in place for you to do that. You can become a squire with the hope of being knighted, and you defend a lord's house, travel the Seven Kingdoms fighting off bandits, or becoming a traveling hedge knight and do odd jobs throughout Westeros. Becoming a knight is more lucrative, you are more respected, and is pretty much the only chance for upward mobility, but a knight is only as good as his honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, odessasteps said: At least she had Iain Glen with her most of the time. Interestingly enough, he was listed in the opening credits, but unless I missed it, I didn't see him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He was in the cells at the Citadel, he spoke to Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcosLoura Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, supremebve said: The reason I don't think they were conscripted is that you don't outfit draftees in expensive ass armor when you are struggling to feed them. That armor is ornate, and probably has to be custom fitted, you think the Lannisters give a set to every man of fighting age? No, the vast majority of their forces would be dressed in cheap leather armor if they had any armor at all. Most of the people fighting in these wars are dead broke and work on some random lord's land. Most of those people don't even have swords, let alone full sets of armor given out by members of the ruling class. The Lannisters are Wardens of the West, they have a standing army of professional soldiers, those are the people who would be wearing that armor. The only real reason to join that army is if you survive you get to rape and pillage the losers. The Lannisters entire war strategy is to brutalize their opponents so badly that everyone thinks twice before starting a conflict with them. They raped, pillaged, and burned their way through The Riverlands, led by The Mountain...the Lannister forces aren't there to make friends with the locals. Like I said before, if you have the skill to be a soldier, but aren't interested in plundering, there are systems in place for you to do that. You can become a squire with the hope of being knighted, and you defend a lord's house, travel the Seven Kingdoms fighting off bandits, or becoming a traveling hedge knight and do odd jobs throughout Westeros. Becoming a knight is more lucrative, you are more respected, and is pretty much the only chance for upward mobility, but a knight is only as good as his honor. Honestly I feel this is mostly a "dudes have to look cool on the tv" case, like you said only Lords (major and minor) would be rocking full plate like that, maybe a couple of hedge knights too but mostly chain for those fellas and all the infantry would be rocking leather or nothing at all, nothing at all, nothing at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Ed Sheeran didn't bother me because I didn't know it was him. I've heard the songs and seen the name but I don't think I've ever seen an interview/video of his and if I have I wasn't paying much attention to it. Now if Pitbull had showed up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Craig H said: Are you trying to say that Grey Worm and the hacker woman in the last two Fast movies didn't help Clarke become a better actor? Nathalie Emmanuel is a very pretty woman with a delightful voice, and Jacob Anderson is funny as hell away from the show. That's all I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 hour ago, supremebve said: Most of the people fighting in these wars are dead broke and work on some random lord's land. Most of those people don't even have swords, let alone full sets of armor given out by members of the ruling class. Maybe they are so depleted they are pushing their spoiled ass rich nephews and cousins into the fray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Ed Sheeran didn't bother me because I didn't know it was him. I've heard the songs and seen the name but I don't think I've ever seen an interview/video of his and if I have I wasn't paying much attention to it. Now if Pitbull had showed up... As one of Ramsey's leftover hounds? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Although coincidental, I like seeing Arya Stark do a Mission Impossible style reveal on the day Martin Landau passed away. disappointed with myself for not recognizing Jim Broadbent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcosLoura Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Ed Sheeran deleted his twitter account I almost feel bad. Almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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