Niners Fan in CT Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Can someone with more knowledge than me looking at @supremebve explain Dany's fire related miracles or prophecies and if this counts as the second one? That's pretty damn important right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 George R.R. Martin has said in the past that Targaeryens are not fireproof. Dany has proven to be at least partially fireproof. The extent of her fireproofyness is still up for debate. In the books when she flies off with Drogon, the next time we see her she is described as having burns on her body. How her resistance to fire works is something that may be explained, or it could be one of those "don't explain magic" things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Or TV Dany is fireproof, book Dany is mostly fireproof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 I always assumed the fireproof thing was a specific Dany thing, not a general Targaeryen thing. It has been awhile since I've read the books, but wasn't the Mad King described as always having burns, because of his obsession with fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Also in the first book, I don't think any of the "Dany won't burn" foreshadowing exists. In the books, it was (thus far at least) a one time unexplained magic thing, whereas on the show she just seems impervious to heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: Also in the first book, I don't think any of the "Dany won't burn" foreshadowing exists. In the books, it was (thus far at least) a one time unexplained magic thing, whereas on the show she just seems impervious to heat. I can't remember were there fire prophecies in the book or is it just a show thing that she will have 3 fire specific events that lead towards her destiny etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Hasn't she already used fire at least like five times at pivotal moments already? - That Wizard guy - Those dudes outside that city - Khal Drogo's funeral pyre - this thing last week - I'm forgetting one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throat Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Yeah, her fire act is getting tired. I hope her campaign for the crown fizzles out and she's relegated to lighting farts to the delight of the unwashed masses in Flea Bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I really just meant in terms of the prophecy. It's hard to know what counts as a prophecy-level event and what doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 18 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I can't remember were there fire prophecies in the book or is it just a show thing that she will have 3 fire specific events that lead towards her destiny etc From A Clash of Kings (but not in the show, because the House of the Undying sucked in the show; That and the battle of the Green Fork being Tyrion snoozing were what persuaded them uto up the budget properly): "Three fires must you light... one for life and one for death and one to love... three mounts must you ride... one to bed and one to dread and one to love... three treasons you will know... once for blood and once for gold and once for love." The fire for life is assumed to be Drogo's funeral pyre, that birthed the dragons. The Fire for Death could be burning the Masters of Astapor or the House of the Undying, or the Khals in the last episode. The Mounts are Drogo to bed, Drogon to dread, and not happened yet to love. The treasons I think the Sons of the Harpy are the one for blood but the others not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Jorah is likely the betrayal for gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Jorah, has to be the gold one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misanthrope304 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Spoiler Tonight on Game of Thrones - Sansa makes some clothes and puts Little Finger in his place, Tormund flirts with Briene...Arya watches some street theatre and contemplates murder, "Joffrey" comes to terms with his VD, we find out how Hodor became Hodor, and lots of death... #holdthedoor apologies for typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Getting dusty in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hold the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Just now, Brian Fowler said: Hold the door Too soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I really wish that before diving into that pile of zombies Summer had turned and whispered "Witness me." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I'm a mark for weird time loop stuff apparently. That was a pretty powerful ending on a emotional level, but the implication that Bran can alter stuff in the past is big. Jon is sort of along for the ride right now, but I expect that to change rather quickly. Sansa in control and playing the game is interesting, but you have to imagine a few harsh lessons are coming down the pipe. All the Euron stuff was solid. I'm digging the actor so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 34 minutes ago, Jrag said: All the Euron stuff was solid. I'm digging the actor so far. I do like that his first act as King was to lose his entire fleet. And his 2nd was an order to build a new fleet. A fleet which he will presumably waste trying to find and fight with his old fleet rather than anything actually important because he kind of seems like a dipshit to me. Hated seeing Varys owned and put in his place by a Red witch like some rando old pathetic adviser and really hate the idea of another ruler coopted and duped by religion. I also loved that any time Theon says anything to anyone the response is going to be "That sounds like something someone without a dick would say." Followed by "HHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!" - That uppercut on Arya was pretty funny. - Those actors are pretty great too. I'm kind of hoping Ayra tells the faceless to fuck right off and WIlhelm Meister's off with that troupe to bring death wherever they travel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bink_winkleman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 CALLED IT here on these very boards about Bran altering the past. Pay me. Agree Varys getting owned by "Those tits aren't even real...prolly like 400 years old" was kinda lame. Excellent episode! I'll take shit extended comedic misinterpretations of King's Landing over Ramsay and the goddamn Sparrow any day! Haven't seen Extreme Rules yet but hoping they were absent because someone suplexed the two of their wack ass boring characters through some fucking swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 It must be eating GRRM alive that the show beat him to the punch on that Hodor reveal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Well if he just wrote quicker..... (finish the sentence as you wish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 4 hours ago, piranesi said: I really wish that before diving into that pile of zombies Summer had turned and whispered "Witness me." Or maybe there could have been some other fairy-thing-whatever-the-hell-they-are who was named Gorman, and they were both in the tunnel and she says "You always were an asshole!" and they both hug her grenade. Other thoughts: -So, the fey people have grenades, and... wait, that's not a grenade, that's a Gungan Boomer! Seriously, that's the exact same bullshit that Jar Jar was hurling at robots in The Phantom Menace. EXACT same color and shape and size and everything. -I don't mind Varys being owned (which is a rare occasion anyway), because the whole gimmick of the Red Witches is while their faith's dogma may be bullshit, their magical powers are completely real. Somehow she knew something which was impossible to know; and if there's anything which can throw Varys off his game, it's having someone else be more informed than he is. -Was that massive closeup of a dick in our face strictly necessary? I mean, I recently marathoned through all of Oz for the first time, and even on THAT show I don't think we ever got THAT close an examination of someone's genitals. Dude was practically teabagging the lens. -So hey, Macguffin Von Sydow, ya think you could've mentioned "and by the way, don't ever let a White Walker touch you, because of these specific reasons" to Bran? And why the hell did they both go BACK into their stupid trance world, right as doom was approaching? The entire situation would've been avoided if they'd just gotten out of there ten minutes earlier. -And was the entire zombie army, like, waiting right next door? (Zombies which now make the exact same snarling sound effects as the ones on Walking Dead, which is goddamned distracting.) It felt as if they got there within half an hour. In fact, the show has recently been terrible about letting people teleport all over Westeros in the blink of an eye, like Littlefinger somehow going from the Vale to the Wall seemingly overnight. -I appreciate trying to do something appropriately epic with Hodor there, but they could have said the phrase "hold the door" perhaps fifty or sixty less times in a row than they did. WE GET IT ALREADY. It actually killed my appreciation of that moment, felt like Bruce Willis's finish in Armageddon where you're saying "okay, it's sad and shit, but... get on with it". -Aside from the very end, this whole season has been one long string of babyface victories on a show which really doesn't do that sort of thing. The only shocking deaths have been stuff like "Dornish royalty whose names you don't remember" and "Roose's wife and kid whose names you don't remember". Otherwise, we've been getting a whole lot of long-awaited reunions and heroic badassery and Fuck Yeah moments... unless you're a direwolf, of course. The direwolves are pretty much taking it right in the ass, here in season 6. -So, Brienne is being sent to Riverrun. Book-readers, think we might FINALLY see her bump into a certain character which the show has strangely not used at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Raven was trying to give Bran all the rest of the necessary information he needed before the Walkers showed up. That's why they went back. Crazy episode. Loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misanthrope304 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 No-selling my #holdthedoor from like 12 hrs ago eh? Cunts 4 hours ago, EVA said: 4 hours ago, EVA said: It must be eating GRRM alive that the show beat him to the punch on that Hodor reveal. idk why this is a quote box in a quote box...but whatever. I doubt it, I mean, he did come up with the shit. However, if it does eat him up, im sure he has fat stacks of cash to dry his tears with 1 hour ago, Jingus said: -Was that massive closeup of a dick in our face strictly necessary? Probably,i dont know. Dude was coming to terms with his VD, young guy with his whole life ahead of him took down in his prime by a thot. 1 hour ago, Jingus said: -So hey, Macguffin Von Sydow, ya think you could've mentioned "and by the way, don't ever let a White Walker touch you, because of these specific reasons" to Bran? And why the hell did they both go BACK into their stupid trance world, right as doom was approaching? The entire situation would've been avoided if they'd just gotten out of there ten minutes earlier. Why would he have mentioned that? the old fuck has been in there with him through all the wargs..worgs...dream things. Fuckboi Bran did that shit solo, got caught and everybody dies. They both went back so the old fuck could impart knowledge into him, or turn Bran into the 3 eyed raven or some shit. 1 hour ago, Jingus said: I double clicked quote apparently, idk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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