goc Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 They've oddly stretched out Arya's storyline; she's the only main character who still has more not-covered-yet material in the last book. With practically everyone else, the show has caught up with the events of the last book; or even charged ahead into uncharted waters, in a few eyebrow-raising examples. (Without getting near any spoilery specifics, let's just say that the entire Stannis/Ramsey/Sansa/Theon/Brienne section of the plot does NOT even REMOTELY resemble what's going on in the novel.) But for whatever reason, they've put the brakes on Arya, leaving her current storyline lagging way behind almost everything else. Maybe they're leaving some room for next season, in case they need to double-down on Arya scenes in order to fill time while GRRMartin painfully tortoises his way through the next book? The writers pretty much explicitly came out and said that the whole Shireen thing was because "well that's what GRR Martin told us is going to happen" which I think is not only pretty cowardly, it's also a shitty thing to do to the book readers who have been really good about not spoiling their TV show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 - I've been confused by the Arya storyline all season long. She makes best friends with the master of disguise, and he blows her off and treats her like nothing. It's like Arya got friendzoned. I thought Arya's clam salesman thing was actually presented as a dream until the last ep. I figured she was making up a story to become "no one". Guess I'm wrong. Is Arya dead or not? I don't know. I understand that some of the magic in storytelling is not spilling all of the beans, but I didn't get it at all. Arya is a mark. They are trying to smarten her up to the business. Jaqen is just a gimmick. To them, all faces, all names, all identities, are just gimmicks to take on and off. The guy from season 5 is not the same guy she met back in season 2; they're just using the same face at these respective times to keep things simple for her...and/or perhaps to ultimately drive home this lesson when they "kill" the Jaqen gimmick right before her eyes. They are all really "No One"; i.e. blank slates that have no "true" personality that might interfere with the work, as happens to Arya. She passes her first test by convincing that girl to drink from the fountain: i.e. she can keep kayfabe and protect the business. She fails the next one -- work the insurance shark -- because she still has a "someone" (Arya Stark) who interferes with living her Clam Cart Girl gimmick. She goes into business for herself and shoots on Meryn Trant. She still believes gimmicks like Jaqen are real, thus she can't treat her Arya Stark identity like just another gimmick, so she's not No One and not ready to be No One yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 They are in a very difficult position though. If someone is asking you why you chose to handle Shireen like that (and remember a lot of people lost their shit), I don't know what else they could have done but say "hey, we are loyal to Martin's major plot points" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Kit Harington at Wimbledon, with his new short haircut that he can have now he's not playing Jon Snow any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBCVr-AVbDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 What if GOT was a TV movie in 1977? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Lena Headey is joining the cast of the new Danger Mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 What if GOT was a TV movie in 1977? Am i going to hell if the only thing I can picture is Michael Landon's head being chopped off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 What if GOT was a TV movie in 1977? Am i going to hell if the only thing I can picture is Michael Landon's head being chopped off? Not unless you're also envisioning Mrs Olsen or Merlin Olson as the one commiting the act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Jones Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Anyone who hasn't seen this needs to see this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0XbcNcNJgQ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidGoldBomb Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 - I've been confused by the Arya storyline all season long. She makes best friends with the master of disguise, and he blows her off and treats her like nothing. It's like Arya got friendzoned. I thought Arya's clam salesman thing was actually presented as a dream until the last ep. I figured she was making up a story to become "no one". Guess I'm wrong. Is Arya dead or not? I don't know. I understand that some of the magic in storytelling is not spilling all of the beans, but I didn't get it at all. Arya is a mark. They are trying to smarten her up to the business. Jaqen is just a gimmick. To them, all faces, all names, all identities, are just gimmicks to take on and off. The guy from season 5 is not the same guy she met back in season 2; they're just using the same face at these respective times to keep things simple for her...and/or perhaps to ultimately drive home this lesson when they "kill" the Jaqen gimmick right before her eyes. They are all really "No One"; i.e. blank slates that have no "true" personality that might interfere with the work, as happens to Arya. She passes her first test by convincing that girl to drink from the fountain: i.e. she can keep kayfabe and protect the business. She fails the next one -- work the insurance shark -- because she still has a "someone" (Arya Stark) who interferes with living her Clam Cart Girl gimmick. She goes into business for herself and shoots on Meryn Trant. She still believes gimmicks like Jaqen are real, thus she can't treat her Arya Stark identity like just another gimmick, so she's not No One and not ready to be No One yet. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Ian McShane to be on Game of Thrones 6th season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 Dammit, why does the Hound have to be dead? There goes the cunt/cocksucker standoff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Ian McShane to be on Game of Thrones 6th season. FUCK! YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Dammit, why does the Hound have to be dead? There goes the cunt/cocksucker standoff.... No body ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 Fair enough. But saying "Why does the Hound have to be removed from the narrative?" seemed way to clunky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Ian McShane to be on Game of Thrones 6th season. In other news, Piranesi is back on board for season 6! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Not only are we getting McShane, but Max Von Sydow is taking over as Three-Eyed Raven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 So I have been home in Ireland the last week and came across them building Winterfell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 McShane and Max could turn the tide! M+M= I like the producer hammering home that Jon is dead, dead, dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 So I have been home in Ireland the last week and came across them building Winterfell This is way cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Ian McShane to be on Game of Thrones 6th season. In other news, Piranesi is back on board for season 6! That type guy, that Ian McShane hanging round gets people agitated. Forces them to take a position, one side or the other. And agitation brings a slight bump up in whiskey sales, but sale of cunt plummets. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 'You know she's fucked for food,' could become a running gag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 If he's playing Euron, I'm declaring this thread a pants-free zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcosLoura Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I thought you hated everything AFFC related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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