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On 4/28/2021 at 10:58 AM, J.T. said:

GoT stuck the landing so hard that it was ridiculous.

Evil undead horde defeated, two psychotic noble bloodlines severed, world weary ruler with oracle powers and wise beyond his years sitting on the throne and advised by more than adequate council, peace in the North and relative peace everywhere else, invading army placated by the exile of a hero, badass assassin wanders the world like Caine from Kung Fu...

Talk about being tied up with the prettiest bow as could be expected.  I think that it was the best of all possible outcomes.  

I think that the reason that the series finale was met with so much venom is that it was the best of all possible outcomes.

My issue is less with Where everyone landed and more with "how we got there".  That's as much on GRRM being a lazy shit that was never going to finish this and D&W being shit at doing stuff that wasn't laid out for them explicitly.

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On 4/28/2021 at 10:58 AM, J.T. said:

GoT stuck the landing so hard that it was ridiculous.

Evil undead horde defeated, two psychotic noble bloodlines severed, world weary ruler with oracle powers and wise beyond his years sitting on the throne and advised by more than adequate council, peace in the North and relative peace everywhere else, invading army placated by the exile of a hero, badass assassin wanders the world like Caine from Kung Fu...

Talk about being tied up with the prettiest bow as could be expected.  I think that it was the best of all possible outcomes.  

I think that the reason that the series finale was met with so much venom is that it was the best of all possible outcomes.

Except there's a financially illiterate upjumped sell sword as Master of Coin and ruling the region of the continent that is a huge supplier of food, money and men for the Royal Army. Let's not forget that Bron didn't even know how a loan worked before Tyrion told him. And the other houses of The Reach are just gonna accept him taking over that region?

And Mr. "I can't be lord of anything" is now the king. And Sam who's essentially a rando deserter from The Night's Watch is now Grand Maester. And Yara who still holds a grudge over Jon killing Dany is presiding over the Iron Islands and they're not exactly known for being super loyal to The Crown. And who is the new Dorne guy? All we know about him is that he's just handsome swarthy looking guy.

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The smallfolk won't care what's going on with the great houses as long as their bellies are fed and that's questionable as to whether or not that's going to happen. But the nobles absolutely won't be happy with what's going on with what happened at the end of the series. If The North can be independent, why can't the other kingdoms do the same? They don't need anything from King's Landing and it's not like the Crown has a giant army or a dragon there to enforce its will. 

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On 4/29/2021 at 1:30 AM, Eivion said:

Pretty sure it had more to do with how things ended for a certain Mother of Dragons.

I think it was all just bad creative and bad writing. Not to mention a complete betrayal of what George RR Martin said about the White Walkers.

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Random but I was going down a wikipedia hole of Game of Thrones characters and actors and found out that Charles Dance's father was born in 1874! Apparently his dad was in his 70s when Charles was born and died when he (Charles) was 3. Charles thought his dad was in his 50s when he was born and didn't learn that his dad was much older until he grew up. Dance actually had a sister who was born in the 1800s as well and she died in 1993. I just thought that was pretty wild. This guy is still alive and while old, it's not like he's ancient or over 100, and had a sibling who was born in the 1898 and it's not like she died a super long time ago either.

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Walter Charles Dance was born in Redditch in Worcestershire on 10 October 1946, the son of Eleanor Marion (née Perks; 1911–1984), a cook, and Walter Dance (1874–1949), an electrical engineer who served as a sergeant in the 2nd Regular Battalion of the Royal Fusiliers during the Second Boer War (having previously served in the 2nd Volunteer Battalion).[1][2] From his father's previous marriage, Dance had two older half-sisters named Norah (1898–1993) and Mary (1903–1908).[3] His mother had been put into a mental institute when he was a child, and when he was about three years old, his father died; Dance had always believed that his father had been in his early 50s at the time, but later discovered that he was actually 26 years older.

During filming of an episode for the genealogical series Who Do You Think You Are? in 2016, Dance also discovered that his mother had Belgian ancestry, which traced back to the city of Spa. His immigrant ancestor Charles François Futvoye (1777–1847) had been a pioneer in the art of Japanning during the early half of the 19th century.[3] Growing up in Plymouth, Dance attended the now-defunct Widey Technical School for Boys (then known as Widey High School) in Crownhill.[4] He later attended Plymouth College of Art and De Montfort University (then known as the Leicester College of Arts), where he studied graphic design and photography.[5]

 

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I've looked all over this part of the board, but I haven't seen anything posted about it, but... A spin-off sequel series about Jon Snow, with Kit Harrington attached obviously, is in development at HBO according to the Hollywood Reporter.

Fuck that, where is my Arya Stark sequel series, goddamnit.

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39 minutes ago, Casey said:

I've looked all over this part of the board, but I haven't seen anything posted about it, but... A spin-off sequel series about Jon Snow, with Kit Harrington attached obviously, is in development at HBO according to the Hollywood Reporter.

Fuck that, where is my Arya Stark sequel series, goddamnit.

Bran the Broken as the driest manager ever. 

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Littlefinger and his rise to mayor of Balt… kings landing, 

I could see LF talking about Janos Slynt the same way Carcetti talked about Valchek. "He's a hack but he's my hack. I owe him."

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I'd have to think that show Jon would wreck Grey Worm in a one on one fight. I'm guessing GW would use a spear and JS would use Longclaw. The spear would give GW a reach advantage but Longclaw is Valerian steel so JS would probably break the spear and then it would be down to GW with the short sword the Unsullied carry vs. JS with Valerian Steel. And show Jon is one of the best swordsmen in Westeros (not so much in the books from what I've read) while The Unsullied are great soldiers but not so much 1 on 1 with a sword.

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I will not lie.  I will only be watching House of the Dragon to see who wins the scenery eating contest between Paddy Constantine and Matt Smith and for the Emma D'Arcy / Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen badass blonde girl hotness.  If there are episodes where their characters are not heavily featured or if they are killed off too early in the season, I will skip that programming.

As much as I love Grey Worm, Jon Snow would lop his head off easy.  Grey Worm would fight in a manner betraying his soldier's discipline while Jon would brawl like a wild man of the North and he would use Longclaw and the other wyrm slaying weapons at his disposal.   Advantage Valerian Steel and Dragonglass.

That and the Unsullied fight like fucking Romans.  Phalanxes are better than the sum of their parts.  I feel that Jon would have the advantage in a one-on-one duel as Grey Worm would be looking to coordinate his attacks with the fellow warriors at his side that wouldn't be there.

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2 hours ago, J.T. said:

I will not lie.  I will only be watching House of the Dragon to see who wins the scenery eating contest between Paddy Constantine and Matt Smith and for the Emma D'Arcy / Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen badass blonde girl hotness.  If there are episodes where their characters are not heavily featured or if they are killed off too early in the season, I will skip that programming.

As much as I love Grey Worm, Jon Snow would lop his head off easy.  Grey Worm would fight in a manner betraying his soldier's discipline while Jon would brawl like a wild man of the North and he would use Longclaw and the other wyrm slaying weapons at his disposal.   Advantage Valerian Steel and Dragonglass.

That and the Unsullied fight like fucking Romans.  Phalanxes are better than the sum of their parts.  I feel that Jon would have the advantage in a one-on-one duel as Grey Worm would be looking to coordinate his attacks with the fellow warriors at his side that wouldn't be there.

We also already saw Grey Worm get owned by a few masked randos. If he couldn't handle them, he's definitely not beating Jon Snow.

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Yeah, Jon was always presented as pretty much the best swordsman in Westeros once Jamie got his hand lopped off and Barrastan was fucked off to Essos.  The only person in a straight up fight I'd say stood a chance would be Arya, and she's walking the Earth like Caine.

 

Book Jon... Jon wouldn't even have to fight, there'd be about 50 people lining up to fight for him, or would just take Grey Worm as a matter of course soon as they heard he had a thought of challenging Jon.  

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15 hours ago, J.T. said:

I will not lie.  I will only be watching House of the Dragon to see who wins the scenery eating contest between Paddy Constantine and Matt Smith and for the Emma D'Arcy / Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen badass blonde girl hotness.  If there are episodes where their characters are not heavily featured or if they are killed off too early in the season, I will skip that programming.

As much as I love Grey Worm, Jon Snow would lop his head off easy.  Grey Worm would fight in a manner betraying his soldier's discipline while Jon would brawl like a wild man of the North and he would use Longclaw and the other wyrm slaying weapons at his disposal.   Advantage Valerian Steel and Dragonglass.

That and the Unsullied fight like fucking Romans.  Phalanxes are better than the sum of their parts.  I feel that Jon would have the advantage in a one-on-one duel as Grey Worm would be looking to coordinate his attacks with the fellow warriors at his side that wouldn't be there.

 

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On 7/13/2022 at 11:08 PM, Raziel said:

Yeah, Jon was always presented as pretty much the best swordsman in Westeros once Jamie got his hand lopped off and Barrastan was fucked off to Essos.  The only person in a straight up fight I'd say stood a chance would be Arya, and she's walking the Earth like Caine.

 

Book Jon... Jon wouldn't even have to fight, there'd be about 50 people lining up to fight for him, or would just take Grey Worm as a matter of course soon as they heard he had a thought of challenging Jon.  

The Hound would probably take out Jon. He's just as good of a swordsman and he's way bigger. The Hound only lost one fight in the whole show and that was to Brienne and he was half-dead from an infection. He easily outclassed The Mountain both times they actually had straight up sword duels. He wrecked all of those Lannister soldiers in the inn fight and was killing guys left and right at Blackwater Bay until he got freaked out by the fire. He also damn near chopped Beric in half when they had their duel.

The funny thing about Jon being presented as the best swordsman is that they don't show you much to back it up. At the Battle of Castle Black, he kills the Thenn chief by spitting in his face and hitting him with a hammer. Karl Tanner was probably gonna kill him at Craster's Keep but one of Craster's daughter wives stabbed him (Tanner) and that was distraction enough for Jon to stab him with Longclaw. I'd say show Jon's best sword fighting feat was beating the White Walker lieutenant.

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