Craig H Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 By the way, I don't recall seeing on Raw, SD, or PPV many of the promos cut by Cody that I saw on YouTube. I'm guessing they were on the app. You want to talk about burying talent, well I think this qualifies. I didn't think about getting buried like this before, where you're not buried in the traditional sense, you're just hidden on the app, or YouTube, or pre-shows, or whatever. I wonder how much other good shit I've missed because I never bother looking at ALL of the WWE app stuff, YouTube stuff, and pre-show stuff. It's already difficult enough to keep up with 3 hours of Raw, 2 hours of SD, an hour of NXT, and then PPVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubbymark Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 52 minutes ago, Craig H said: By the way, I don't recall seeing on Raw, SD, or PPV many of the promos cut by Cody that I saw on YouTube. I'm guessing they were on the app. You want to talk about burying talent, well I think this qualifies. I didn't think about getting buried like this before, where you're not buried in the traditional sense, you're just hidden on the app, or YouTube, or pre-shows, or whatever. I wonder how much other good shit I've missed because I never bother looking at ALL of the WWE app stuff, YouTube stuff, and pre-show stuff. It's already difficult enough to keep up with 3 hours of Raw, 2 hours of SD, an hour of NXT, and then PPVs. The stuff on the app is only smoke and mirrors. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 His lisp virtually guarantees that he won't be offered any serious acting roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 27 minutes ago, ChrisM said: His lisp virtually guarantees that he won't be offered any serious acting roles. His lisp is nowhere near as bad as Renee Young's, which no one ever talks about. Dunno, think he sounded fine. Not saying he should go for the acting thing. I liked Cody because he always went all in on whatever he was given. He clearly worked hard to get whatever he was given over. Who gives a shit about main event personalities? Does Roman Reigns have a main event personality? I like JBL, but I never once believed he had a main event personality or a main event body either. What about Sheamus? My point is this, it truly doesn't take having a main event level personality to be a main eventer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paintedbynumbers Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Not sure about Rhodes as an actor. Perhaps Stephen Amell can get him a role on Arrow and see how he does? Cody in a serious role at this point would be hard to imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 There's a lot of marksplaining in this thread. - RAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerjeRUN Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 On 5/21/2016 at 9:29 PM, (BP) said: I like Cody, but he had a bad match with Cena during the US title challenge series when Cena was having good matches with everyone. They really should've just ran with the Rhodes brothers team until the wheels fell off. Dustin can still go and Cody was becoming a great hot tag. I'm down with this, that little period with Dusty and Dustin against the Shield was brilliant, may have to rewatch it sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Question for all of the people who think Cody was a main eventer that never got a shot: What was his best singles match? I'm not trolling, I'm trying to think of a great performance from him that didn't involve goldust or the money in the bank multiman clusterfuck. Anyone want to point me to something to watch so I can see where people are coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 1 hour ago, JRGoldman said: Question for all of the people who think Cody was a main eventer that never got a shot: What was his best singles match? I'm not trolling, I'm trying to think of a great performance from him that didn't involve goldust or the money in the bank multiman clusterfuck. Anyone want to point me to something to watch so I can see where people are coming from? Probably something involving Rey Mysterio.....Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Cody really does seem to be the embodiment of "creative has nothing for you." On the one hand, he probably does deserve something better than playing a cartoon character in the lower midcard. On the other hand, he tried his hand at a couple different serious characters and didn't get traction. He doesn't really fit in with the 2016 WWE. Not a terrible worker, but not a standout either. Probably a little better than average as a promo guy. Average look. He's a guy who does a lot of things well, but not exceptionally well. On the current roster, though, there are plenty of guys who do the things he does well even better. If Vince or Triple H saw a better role for him, they would have probably told him so. They'll need as many decent hands as they can round up once the brand split begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEN! Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I think the way Cody Rhodes handled this is commendable. Told them what he wanted, got told no, peaced out. Way better than sticking around and doing the passive aggressive or whine to the internet approach like way too many do. Look how he put all the Bucks but Bunkhouse. He knows his daddy ain't around to save him from The Stud Stable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Stu "Wade Barrett" Bennett's response was even better, since there was only one name on his list: Papa Shango... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyanide Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, JonnyLaw said: Stu "Wade Barrett" Bennett's response was even better, since there was only one name on his list: Papa Shango... That is wonderful. Also, I would move Shibata to the bottom of his list. Because that sounds like suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstout Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 The whole Cody deal consists of three parts: 1. Wishful thinking that there's actually something there that the WWE has kept from developing into its full potential. There isn't. This ties into part 2: 2. Good feelings for his old man and his brother, thus the "hope the guy does well" thing. 3. Everyone loves the leap of faith involved in giving up a job because it doesn't make you happy, but few are actually willing to do it themselves. So when someone else does it, it's "you go, boy." And you need a main event "something" (personality, charisma, character, something) to be a main eventer. JBL's personality and character wasn't quite strong enough, so they covered for him by putting him in the ring with people the fans cared greatly about. No one's ever thought Sheamus was even close to JBL's level, much less main-event level. Sheamus is devoid of charisma and his character for the longest time was "he's really pale." Reigns may have the charisma, but hasn't been allowed to show it properly yet - jury's still out - I think he needs a heel run as a solo act, maybe with a mouthpiece. If Cody Rhodes had IT, he would've shown IT by now, even in his limited role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I'm happy to see anyone motivated to go out there and prove people wrong. I just think that purely in-ring, a lot of guys in his position have shown me more with less opportunity. Here's his best stuff from the C-Shows this year: vs Jack Swagger (Main Event #170) vs Zack Ryder (Superstars #356 & #371, Main Event #179) vs Dolph Ziggler (Main Event #188) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstout Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 So, who has IT? I think there's two guys on the main roster who have that something it takes to be main eventers (not Stone Cold/Rock-level guys, but solid players at the top): Owens and Ambrose. They've been Held Down by the Man, but aren't lost yet. Jury's still out on Reigns and Zayn. Zayn just needs more time to cook, to see if he can be great with a multitude of opponents and feuds. I love Enzo and Cass, but it's too soon to say yes on either guy, also. I firmly reserve the right to have forgotten someone. I didn't forget Styles. Good worker, no "IT" factor. Being a good worker may be enough to keep him high in the mix, though. EDIT: Gotta count Brock. I guess you have to count HHH, but I'd rather not count either for the purpose of this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I just don't see Cody as deserving to rise above the midcard. He's perfectly fine and acceptable, but is he really on the whole any better careerwise than pre-TNA Jeff Jarrett? He just seems to be a modern day Jarrett (jack of all trades, master of none, average at best athleticism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I don't think HHH ever had "it". He never captivated me and made me want to see what he would say or do next. You always expected him to win because he's HHH. It was always a foregone conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstout Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Even way back before he was the boss' daughter's husband? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 1 hour ago, jstout said: No one's ever thought Sheamus was even close to JBL's level, much less main-event level. Sheamus is devoid of charisma and his character for the longest time was "he's really pale." I think the biggest thing that got Sheamus where he is, is people like him. You'd think he would be the kind of guy who Daniel Bryan wouldn't have much use for (Big hoss, pushed hard etc.) and Bryan LOVES him. He goes on about how great Sheamus was, how much fun he was to work with, how disappointed he and Sheamus both were when they cut their match down to seconds at WM because they thought they had a really good match in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Sugar Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 It seems like bad timing to leave with a brand-split: and seems like bad timing, with said split, to not let Cody ditch Stardust and be Cody again. If at anytime you wanted to ensure you had a solid midcard, this is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, jstout said: Even way back before he was the boss' daughter's husband? Even back then. He always struck me as boring. The funny thing is I liked him as Terra Ryzin and going under the wing of Regal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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