TheVileOne Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Regardless of all the poking we make at Bellator, I am looking forward to the card and I'll probably enjoy it, even if I am the only one in the arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hell, I think it's a pretty damn great card. I'm really looking forward too it. It's got everything. A legends fight, a rematch, title fights, revenge match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Man, I'd would have liked to have thought that Fallon Fox's loss would stymy all this talk of her "unfair advantage" from her "man genes," or whatever, but sadly it hasn't done a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_h Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 If that Bellator PPV was like $10-$20 I'd buy it for sure. Anyone know what they will be charging? They cannot possibly be trying to get the standard $50 that the UFC does... maybe like $30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 If that Bellator PPV was like $10-$20 I'd buy it for sure. Anyone know what they will be charging? They cannot possibly be trying to get the standard $50 that the UFC does... maybe like $30? And with Bellator settling on a price point of $35-45—depending on the distributor—for an event that, to be blunt, simply isn’t worth that kind of money, it’s hard to imagine the casual fan being intrigued enough to shell out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_h Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 If that Bellator PPV was like $10-$20 I'd buy it for sure. Anyone know what they will be charging? They cannot possibly be trying to get the standard $50 that the UFC does... maybe like $30? And with Bellator settling on a price point of $35-45—depending on the distributor—for an event that, to be blunt, simply isn’t worth that kind of money, it’s hard to imagine the casual fan being intrigued enough to shell out. Thanks. Missed that. Ugh... I dunno about $45. Guess it depends on how bored/drunk I am that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epwar Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 $19.99 would have been the magic number. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Woah. They're charging that much? Jesus. Won't anyone ever learn from 2K Sports? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Woah. They're charging that much? Jesus. Won't anyone ever learn from 2K Sports? From MMA Payout: MMA Junkie’s John Morgan tweeted the news of the poor ticket sales. Bloody Elbow reported that the price point may be one of the reasons for the poor ticket sales. Notably, a look at the tickets for the Bellator event has floor seats at $265 per seat. In comparison, UFC on Fox 9 in Sacramento in December has floor seats for less, $260 I think that + the PPV price suggests that Bellator has the WWE's mentality of why they won't lower their PPVs to the price from 15 years ago. In order to be viewed as a top shelf product, they feel that they have to charge top shelf prices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I finally saw local advertising for it today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glfpunk Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'd buy it for $20. Possibly $30 and that would be mainly to see Alvarez/Chandler go down live. But any more than that is kind of ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I wonder if the local B Wild Wings will be playing. That'd me my idea situation. I know they won't be packed like UFC events. So, It will actually be bearable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 found out i have to work 11/2, so i guess i'll just be torrenting it the next day. i think $30 would be the most your average person would pay.i know BWWs here played both of the Affliction events, so i'd guess they'll be showing this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LethalStriker Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 found out i have to work 11/2, so i guess i'll just be torrenting it the next day. i think $30 would be the most your average person would pay.i know BWWs here played both of the Affliction events, so i'd guess they'll be showing this too. I would still call up to your local BWW and make sure that they are before you leave for the bar. You don't want to show up at the bar and when you get there find out that some college football or hockey game is on all of the screens instead of the PPV you came to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Jason High vs. Anthony Lapsley at UFC 167 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epwar Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 HOLY CRAP! When did they hire Lapsley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 HOLY CRAP! When did they hire Lapsley? I guess not too long ago because they would've probably given High someone coming off a win in the UFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 The UFC is thinking about doing Aldo vs. Lamas at UFC 169 in Jersey for Super Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epwar Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 so i guess that just leaves Aldo/challenger to headline the SB card? pretty much makes Mir/Overeem the co-main by default. Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! Totally strange how the SB card has gone from their huge show to nothing in the last few years. Via MMAJunkie: It's far from a lock, but Ricardo Lamas could finally get his shot at the UFC featherweight title in February. UFC President Dana White today said the organization is "talking about" booking championJose Aldo (23-1 MMA, 5-0 UFC) vs. Lamas (13-2 MMA, 4-0 UFC) for its Super Bowl weekend card on Feb. 1. "It's not done, but we're talking about it," he said. "But we talk about a lot of things." Unlike past years, the UFC's annual Super Bowl card won't take place in Las Vegas. Instead, the pay-per-view event is slated for Prudential Center in Newark, N.J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disposition Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'd buy it for $20. Possibly $30 and that would be mainly to see Alvarez/Chandler go down live. But any more than that is kind of ridiculous. $20 is a good deal. $30 sounds realistic. I guess they are targeting the casual fans who don't follow MMA closely and are banking on them to be drawn in by the personalities of Ortiz and Rampage. It could work. But with so much free MMA available, I don't think the PPV is gonna do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glfpunk Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 UFC 164 did 270k buys with a lw title fight and Mir/Barnett underneath it. Take the UFC name away and replace it with Bellator and no advertising and take away the two best lightweights in the world and replace them with two way past their prime LHWs and fill the rest of the card with names that casual fans don't know. You get a show that will only be bought by the hardest of the hardcore fans and you then lose a lot of them because you overpriced the show. It's a show I'd like to see because of Alvarez/Chandler and slightly because of the spectacle of Ortiz/Rampage. But I'm not paying over a certain amount to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I think given those circumstances they should be happy with 80k-90k buys, but Rebney wouldn't be happy with that from I've heard from Greg Savage. Apparently, they legimitately think they can achieve UFC basement numbers. It would be really interesting to know what the break even number is. If it is higher than 100k buys, then they have a real problem with their pay scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glfpunk Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I don't think they'll get close to that. The Affliction shows did just under 100k and 150k and that was with a lot of advertising and at a time where ppvs were doing strong. Those cards had plenty of names on them as well. I don't see this show coming close to 100k. They should have just planned on losing money on this show in the name of increasing their audience. Spend a shit ton on advertising, like plaster this thing everywhere and charge less than $20 for it and hope the fights are exciting. People that don't follow MMA closely but recognize Tito and Rampage can probably justify spending $20 on this. Certainly more than $44.95 or whatever. And when they tune in they get to be pleasantly surprised by Alvarez/Chandler before the freak show fight they spent the money on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Affliction didn't have a TV deal though outside HDNet prelims. Also, they had those free posters and gajillion cards they gave away. I can't imagine how much money they lost on that. Anyway, at least Bellator can get 350k+ people to watch their product week in and week out. I don't know why with the card quality lately, but they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LethalStriker Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 There was still a strong contingent of the PRIDE hardcore fanbase who bought the Affliction card because they viewed it basically as the next best thing to getting a PRIDE card after that promotion ended. You don't have any fighters on this card that have the aura around them that Fedor had back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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