RIPPA Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 Especially when this board is full of wrestling fans AND EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF THEM IS CREEPY! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 38 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Especially when this board is full of wrestling fans AND EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF THEM IS CREEPY! Natural isn't creepy. Past that though... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 And hey, I get the notion about creepy neckbeards going nuts over Bayley. But we're also forgetting there's also creepy neckbeards who go nuts over Catrina and her licking. As much as we like to think we're above seeing women in wrestling that way, yes we are all like this. It can be okay, we're human, as long as you don't go overboard (you know, like posting ass screenshots or gifs of Alexa's butt) I know it's final four in MM and people on both sides are using any tactic they can. But I'd like to think we can actually discuss shit that's relevant to the topic at hand. And that's in this voting period who had the better year. Who is the better wrestler, who was presented better, who had the most impact, and who connected the best with their fanbase. As far as better wrestler, I'd say Bayley by far. Muertes held his own, but Bayley managed to get good matches out of those that shouldn't have had good matches (Eva, Carmella, etc) and made them seem like they belonged. And with the ones that can put on good matches she was outstanding. It's easy to overrate this and I'm guilty of that, but Bayley brought tons to the big matches. And on top of that if Breaking Ground's to be believed she can be trusted to put together good matches for others. For presentation, I'd give it to Mil. LU did a fantastic job making him this ungodly monster who crushes fools. For crying out loud, he killed the bands and put their skulls on his throne, what's not to love! Banderas is right for the role and deserves credit for making Mil what he is. But at the end of the day it's LU coming up with a helluva gimmick and presenting him in a ridiculously awesome way. As for most impact I'd go with Bayley. She has connected with nearly every facet of the WWE fanbase. Kids look up to her and adore her, and parents love that as well. Jaded wrestling fans have freely admitted to tearing up during various moments like her title win. The whole Divas Revolution thing was fake as fuck on the main roster, but in NXT it was completely organic and it's fair to say that Bayley and Sasha raised the bar quite high. And if she can do this with this audience imagine when she's called up. Barring any booking calamity she can very well have a similar fanbase to Cena, and unlike him will get more cheers. As for connecting with the fanbase, it's a tie honestly. They both connect well with the fanbase, it's just different characters geared toward different fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 3 hours ago, RIPPA said: Especially when this board is full of wrestling fans AND EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF THEM IS CREEPY! Thats why I believe Sasha will have the best chance to stop Bayley. The people with good taste will vote Sasha and the mildly creepy people will split their vote. The question then becomes, are there enough super creepy votes to counteract the other demographics? I'm not sure. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I was waiting for the tournament to become toxic and bring out the worst in us. It hasn't disappointed, just took longer than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 In all seriousness, I am excited for this potential final if Sasha can hang on. Interesting scenario considering their best from the time period is with each other. I think how you viewed that Brooklyn match will go a long way in deciding who you vote for. Was it Bayley's story that made it special or was it Sasha's chance, on the verge of a call-up, to prove herself in front of a huge crowd? I was invested in that match because of the tiny, viscous, hand-stomping heel who bumps around like a maniac on a frame that is clearly not meant for such a things. In my mind, Bayley's story was secondary to Sasha's greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 In that regard, Sasha might have barely won the war that night, but Bayley sure won the peace in the months that followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 To be fair, this March hasn't resulted in any meltdowns yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: To be fair, this March hasn't resulted in any meltdowns yet.. How quickly Vic is forgotten 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuubi Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I don't like Bayley's offense. Maybe it is years of the Belly to Belly slam being a move used by big guys who could not pop their hips to turn it into the immensely better belly to belly suplex, but that move as a finisher will never convince of anything and I actually bought the F-U/Attitude Adjustment as a finisher because it at least was not the typical fireman's carry slam where you dropped to the knees and yanked the dude over. Then it's her Frankensteiner which yeah, Rey Mysterio used all of the time, but for me, that should be a last resort move and not apart of her general repertoire. I hated when Daniel Bryan started doing it to start his comeback sequence on a semi-regular basis or any move from the top rope that was not the Spider-back suplex(that was awesome and smart) should be like a high tension last ditch go for broke move. And her back elbow and spear corner thing is something people her size and temperament should never use. The only things I like in her offense set are the poison rana and maybe the German Suplex which looks like it hurts more than her finisher. Her offense takes away a lot of the tension in her matches because when she inevitably makes her babyface comeback, she no sells parts of her offense that should have been sold(the poison rana from Takeover Brooklyn is one of the most glaring examples). And yeah, if she wasn't in the WWE, this would not matter, but she is and story telling is extremely integral and I expect better from her. Mil Muertes is limited because of his gimmick is what makes him great and unique. Not his actual wrestling. I don't necessary take that as a negative. It just shows that booking can make anyone the star. It just takes the right type of booking and character. This is a lesson that the WWE needs to be reminded of instead of trying to create people in a certain mold. Muertes is what happens when you let comic book writers book shows and it is awesome. He is literally Shao Kahn and Dr Doom and it is so overtly evil that it is awesome. He is a callback to the old days when wrestling used to be fun and wacky because it captured your imagination instead of being cluttered with shoddy hashtags and corporate meddling. And yeah, I love the Attitude era, but we all love the Undertaker over Big Evil and the American Badass. So while outside a few matches that were awesome because of the overall symbolism and meaning, Mil Muertes feels larger than life and intimidating. He exudes intimidation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 28 minutes ago, RIPPA said: How quickly Vic is forgotten Oh yeah, I forgot about the Mysterio thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 50 minutes ago, RIPPA said: How quickly Vic is forgotten Who? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Yeah, but Vic was always halfway on the edge anyway. We could have just started ripping Demolition in the monthly discussion thread and achieved the same result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Sandwich Carl Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I think Bayley had a better year. Also, I've been sick and I literally have a neck beard at the moment. Is my neck beard forcing me to this pick? Is that why my recent eBay searches have all be for fedoras and Equestria Girls? Why are all of my t-shirts suddenly so Ill-fitting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuubi Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Chicken Sandwich Carl said: I think Bayley had a better year. Also, I've been sick and I literally have a neck beard at the moment. Is my neck beard forcing me to this pick? Is that why my recent eBay searches have all be for fedoras and Equestria Girls? Why are all of my t-shirts suddenly so Ill-fitting? Even if you are a brony(not saying you are), it does not diminish that Bayley had a great year and you'd be no more right if you voted her over Mil than I would be voting Mil over her. ...but if Young Metro don't trust you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Sandwich Carl Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Kyuubi said: Even if you are a brony(not saying you are), it does not diminish that Bayley had a great year and you'd be no more right if you voted her over Mil than I would be voting Mil over her. ...but if Young Metro don't trust you... I'm a mid-thirties father of two from Iowa who works in finance that hangs out on wrestling message boards all day and barely understands modern hip hop references despite being the guy eulogizing Phife Dog on Facebook. I barely trust me; ain't a shot in hell Young Metro trusts me. (Also not really a brony; but I do like Bayley a lot.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Seriously, the idea that Bayley's entire adult male fanbase is just creepy men that want to fuck her baffles me because I feel zero sexual attraction to her. Just none. Sasha... Okay Sasha is hot as fuck. But so are a ton of other women I wouldn't dream of voting for this deep into the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 22 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: Sasha... Okay Sasha is hot as fuck. But so are a ton of other women I wouldn't dream of voting for this deep into the tournament. Yeah I don't think anyone is voting based on looks, these women really are that talented. What the heck is a brony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 THERE'S A WHOLE INTERNET OUT THERE FULL OF ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T BRING IT HERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 A brony is a type of male into My little pony friendship is magic in a way that can only be described as fanatical and beyond creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 There's a pretty good episode of Bob's Burgers that can explain all so just look that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 A brony thinks Batman should shoot first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Don't bring your crap here, Mike, jesus lol. I honestly have never heard the word "brony" in my life until people started saying it here. It sounds like I was better off not knowing. Hopefully the word can be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 16 hours ago, Technico Support said: I finally decided to go with Mil. I'm not a huge fan of either but Bailey's adult male fanbase skeeves me out. [] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 17 hours ago, Kyuubi said: Even if you are a brony(not saying you are), it does not diminish that Bayley had a great year and you'd be no more right if you voted her over Mil than I would be voting Mil over her. ...but if Young Metro don't trust you... Thought Sasha would be the choice of Bronies, as it's pretty clear she's the Jimmy Jam Garvin of the New Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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