Graham Crackers Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I'm not Vic, and I have no kids, which means any real answer to this question is bullshit, but, assuming she got into it by choice and not due to a complete lack of options, I honestly believe I'd be fine with it. Until you take your daughter out to a lovely father/daughter lunch, and some asshole approaches your table and tells her how much he loves watching her get fucked, and "How much would it cost to get to fuck her, too?". Would you also think your daughter was "asking for it"? Would you tell your daughter she brought it on herself or would you offer her moral support? This is an extreme situation and one in which I'd hope you would take your daughter's side regardless of if you supported her decision to enter the sex industry. Anyway, I'm getting a strong sense that very few people in this thread if any actually know a sex worker or somebody involved in advocacy for sex workers' rights. There is a lot of unfortunate ignorance being tossed around in here. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I'm not Vic, and I have no kids, which means any real answer to this question is bullshit, but, assuming she got into it by choice and not due to a complete lack of options, I honestly believe I'd be fine with it. Until you take your daughter out to a lovely father/daughter lunch, and some asshole approaches your table and tells her how much he loves watching her get fucked, and "How much would it cost to get to fuck her, too?". Yay! Slutshaming! I hope your implication isn't that I am slut shaming, I'm just providing a "what if" scenario that can happen. But anyways, this thread has taken the monthly trip down the boulevard of broken topics. Shame on us. SHAME!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 This fucking thread. I wonder what kind of discourse the last three days of this month will bring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I'm not Vic, and I have no kids, which means any real answer to this question is bullshit, but, assuming she got into it by choice and not due to a complete lack of options, I honestly believe I'd be fine with it. Until you take your daughter out to a lovely father/daughter lunch, and some asshole approaches your table and tells her how much he loves watching her get fucked, and "How much would it cost to get to fuck her, too?". Yay! Slutshaming! I hope your implication isn't that I am slut shaming, I'm just providing a "what if" scenario that can happen. But anyways, this thread has taken the monthly trip down the boulevard of broken topics. Shame on us. SHAME!!!! I think you mean SLUT SHAME!! It's our very own buzzword. "WWE Universe" "cadence" "in abeyance" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 WWE just put up a bunch of debuts (Y2J, Tazz, Batista, Cena, etc.) I could've sworn D-Von was using his awesome Eyes of Rightessnous theme song. They have got to recycle that for someone at some point. I remember back in the Smackdown 5 video game, he had the weirdest ring walk. He would hold his hand over his heart with a sad look and slowly walk to the ring. It was really amusing when you could switch his attire to his Team 3D one he would do the same walk. There was potential for Rev. D-Von. Hell, there's potential period for a crazy Bapstist Reverend in wrestling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 This fucking thread. I wonder what kind of discourse the last three days of this month will bring... http://deathvalleydriver.com/forum/index.php?/topic/527-instituting-a-stfu-grown-folks-talking-rule/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 He was just way too high profile a guy to do such a fast and total gimmick change like that. Are there other guys in the last ten years who were as prominent as him who did such a total repackaging almost overnight? Like not just something like Rikishi or Tensai going from angry fat guy to dancing fat guy, but someone becoming, like, a totally different guy? Someone bigger than like Brodus Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Bradshaw from the APA to JBL was overnight wasn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I think they thought it had been part of the gimmick in a small way, With the "Testify" stuff. I think him and Bubba were going to have trouble being split up like that. Because nobody wanted the Dudleys or Acolytes to break up. You're looking at your watch, waiting for them to reunite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Bradshaw from the APA to JBL was overnight wasn't it? Damn. Good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 This fucking thread. I wonder what kind of discourse the last three days of this month will bring... http://deathvalleydriver.com/forum/index.php?/topic/527-instituting-a-stfu-grown-folks-talking-rule/ And so be it. I'm not changing or editing that post because some of the bullshit that's been posted on the previous couple pages is pretty fucking reprehensible. We went from discussing Foley's fascination with porn stars, to how you would feel if your daughter worked in the porn industry. That's pretty fucking far from "wrestling jibber jabber." I get Raven Mack's post and stand behind it, but I also don't really give a good goddamn if I get a timeout over what I said. This is also why we have moderators to moderate a discussion, and thus far things have steered pretty far into weird territory, far and beyond what should really be discussed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Bradshaw from the APA to JBL was overnight wasn't it? I'd say that's pretty much the best example. Another one I was thinking of but which may not fit the strictest definition is Austin going from super face Stone Cold to ultra whiny Austin. That was almost a 180 in character for him. Also, Angle going from cowardly comedy heel pre-No Way Out 2000 to super ass kicking "tap out or I will break your fucking ankle" Angle at No Way Out is another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 But Austin still stayed a bully and a tough guy. It was more like he just started acting like a cunt to piss people off. Like, even when he would beg off a fight, it was just to annoy everyone. Now if Angle had suddenly come out as like a ship captain or a lumberjack or something that would be closer to DVon Dudley suddenly being a Pentacostal preacher in a Catholic priest outfit. There are the sort of brainwashing versions, like where The Godfather is suddenly turned into a member of RTC, but I think everyone knows that won't "stick." That it's just a phase and he's still really the same guy deep down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 And so be it. I'm not changing or editing that post because some of the bullshit that's been posted on the previous couple pages is pretty fucking reprehensible. We went from discussing Foley's fascination with porn stars, to how you would feel if your daughter worked in the porn industry. That's pretty fucking far from "wrestling jibber jabber." I get Raven Mack's post and stand behind it, but I also don't really give a good goddamn if I get a timeout over what I said. This is also why we have moderators to moderate a discussion, and thus far things have steered pretty far into weird territory, far and beyond what should really be discussed. They set themselves up to be asked that question by attacking anyone who dare speak out against the porn industry. Accusing others of being hateful because they question a career path is not going to fly without elaborating on it.. Moving on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Dammit. I thought we settled all of this when Dusty Rhodes ejaculated onto his own belly. Do I need to whip this out? Fine: Enjoy this the next time you close your eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKash202 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 LOL @ The "Support your kids no matter what." Let my daughter tell me she wants to suck some penus on film for a few dollars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 You know what? You guys are earning these: EEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSHHHHHHH eyayaeyaeyaeyaeyaeyaeayeayeayeayaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh Oooooooooooooooooooooooooofffffff 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 But Austin still stayed a bully and a tough guy. It was more like he just started acting like a cunt to piss people off. Like, even when he would beg off a fight, it was just to annoy everyone. Now if Angle had suddenly come out as like a ship captain or a lumberjack or something that would be closer to DVon Dudley suddenly being a Pentacostal preacher in a Catholic priest outfit. There are the sort of brainwashing versions, like where The Godfather is suddenly turned into a member of RTC, but I think everyone knows that won't "stick." That it's just a phase and he's still really the same guy deep down. So Mike Rotunda(o) going from Varsity Club jerk Captain to being an actual ship Captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Yeah, but that was like a million eras ago. It's gotta be since people got all savvy to this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 And so be it. I'm not changing or editing that post because some of the bullshit that's been posted on the previous couple pages is pretty fucking reprehensible. We went from discussing Foley's fascination with porn stars, to how you would feel if your daughter worked in the porn industry. That's pretty fucking far from "wrestling jibber jabber." I get Raven Mack's post and stand behind it, but I also don't really give a good goddamn if I get a timeout over what I said. This is also why we have moderators to moderate a discussion, and thus far things have steered pretty far into weird territory, far and beyond what should really be discussed. They set themselves up to be asked that question by attacking anyone who dare speak out against the porn industry. Accusing others of being hateful because they question a career path is not going to fly without elaborating on it.. Moving on... Actually it was more not stitching a scarlet letter on a person because things they have done. Nobody has defended the porn industry. This started with people attacking Foley for daring to say nice things about a porn star. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 The JBL turn was built up on TV gradually at first. With him losing the SD Rumble and then abandoning Ron Simmons, Then after WM they fast forwarded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I'm not Vic, and I have no kids, which means any real answer to this question is bullshit, but, assuming she got into it by choice and not due to a complete lack of options, I honestly believe I'd be fine with it. 99% of the time that's why women get into the sex industry, though. It's desperate work. Although I'm not sure the number is actually that high (I do believe there are women who choose it for other reasons, but I do not discount that there are many who did not) it is why I included the qualifier there. Generally, though, does porn really have a happy ending (no pun intended) for the women involved? Most of the time the answer is no. Because it's a sleazy, dehumanizing industry and even if your daughter gets into it normal, she's not going to leave it that way. Any good father who hears his daughter wants to do it should be doing his very best to talk her out of it. I remember when everyone used to hold up Jenna Jameson as an example of how porn could be enpowering to women and how she was the big success story that proved the sex industry was just another career. Fast forward a few years and she's now a drug-addled mess who's lost custody of her kids and gets arrested all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 There is a difference between talking your child out of it and disowning them. Or giving them a scarlet letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Daniel Bryan and Brie Bella are now engaged. This is how they are going to feud Bryan and Cena when Cena gets back right? Bryan put all this extra pressure on Cena to pop the question to the fake boobed one and he didn't want to and now he is resentful of Bryan HHH will pair up Brie with Cena and it will drive Bryan out of his mind. Jesus, please tell me the best this generation can do as their Elizabeth is not Brie Bella. Brie Bella has all the charisma and presence of a broomstick. She's beginning to look like one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 He was just way too high profile a guy to do such a fast and total gimmick change like that. It's more a case of D-Von sucking as a solo act, I think. Bradshaw from the APA to JBL was overnight wasn't it? I want to say it had like a one or two week build after Simmons got "fired". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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