rovert Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Edit: http://youtu.be/G7VbKGJtsEA No wait, this guy is going to be huge. I remember him from Irish indy shows and his feud with Sheamus and being in a short lived faction with the now Wade Barnett and Drew McIntyre: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDFMy8YL2o He was a rather boring Wrestler then. Not an expert on the French/mainland indy scene but I think he has been fairly inactive since the mid 00s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 To me, PG rated wrestling doesnt have to mean G rated wrestling.To me, i dont see how you can have the violence inherent in wrestling and have it be "G"I also doubt you could have a wrestling company owned by a corporation (Panda, Sinclair, ...) go full-on Attitude Era/ECW without complaints from a vocal portion of the audience and we know corporations don't want that attention. I don't think it's actually 'G-Rated' but WWE tends to err on the side of caution in regards to the PG limits and that's the rallying cry you see behind fans who are so INTO TNA/CZW etc. "I don't like to watch G-Rated wrestling". So, you take that prevailing attitude and you cater towards it: "This ain't your daddy's wrestling" "This is NOT TV-PG!" etc. etc. I actually enjoy WWE much more currently than I did during the height of the Attitude era, but there's a portion of the fanbase who feels disenfranchised by WWE going kid-friendly. TNA is never going to defeat WWE head-to-head, or even come close, putting out the same style as WWE. They could take a bigger chunk of the market, if they offered something different. I don't know that you could go full-on Attitude/ECW, but you could use bleeped-out words and a little bit of blood to differentiate the company. And if they started making money offering a more "adult" alternative, I'm sure Panda would welcome the change. I've never understood why TNA doesn't go full Attitude Era/ECW. Move it to later in the night, have blood, and sexiness, and lots of swearing. It's not like Spike doesn't have shows with those things (They show some bloody movies, they have lots of fake blood in something like 1000 ways to die; their commercials have lots of scantily clad women; and 'Bar Rescue' is wall-to-wall swearing (albeit bleeped)) so I can't imagine that Spike would have too much of a problem with it. And then you could rightly book it as "an alternative to that kiddie wrestling". It wouldn't necessarily be a better show, but you'd have all kinds of people talking about how awesome it was and defending it because "At least it's not G-rated wrestling." Don't they already do this? They had a camera guy outside interviewing fans and they were yelling "This is better because chairshots to the head! It's NOT PG" At least that's how it was when Ric Flair was there sneezing and bleeding every week. Didn't Abyss have a bat with nails sticking out of it buried into his back once? And he died but didn't die? Either WWE talks to me like I'm an idiot child, or TNA talks to me like I'm a braindead 13 year old, who needs close ups of women's camel toes while they bend over the ropes in order to stay interested, because I haven't found my old man's Penthouse stash yet. To be fair, I'm not really marketing this toward you, jae. I'm talking the audience that feels insulted by not having adult wrestling on TV. It wouldn't be very good, probably, but I think it would draw a better audience than WWE-lite which is how TNA has been ever since Hogan arrived: former WWE guys wrestling TNA guys in similar-looking matches, using similar moves, with noticeably worse music/effects/lighting and awful announcing. It's like forming your own football league, stocking it with guys who have left the NFL and other guys who could never make it, with the same rules, worse graphics and music, and Mark Madden on commentary. The XFL wasn't better than Arena Football, but it was different, and drew attention (At least at first). See, I would have rather had TNA try to copy JCP or Memphis and do some form of old-school "southern rasslin'." Hell, even 1992-1993 SMW rip-off/tribute would have been awesome. Well, personally, I'd rather they copy 1990s Michinoku Pro/WAR with crazy high-flying and weird tag teams, but would anyone except a few people watch it? The idea of a Southern wrasslin' company would be great, but it would be too difficult to retrain mass audiences to appreciate something like that. In terms of marketing to a big group of people, you'd be courting the ECW fans who miss the blood, the WWE Attitude fans who miss the boobs, and your average teenager who wants to see lots of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I may have overlooked this, were it mentioned elsewhere, but haven't I seen Chikara matches in best-of comps, where the height between top of the mat, at apron level, was as high from the ground as, say, Claudio's mid-thigh range? Sup'wi'dat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Yes. They are called pony rings. Used to be a lot for tv tapings in territory days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 From today's observer update: --Frenchy Bernard, a former wrestler who was more famous as a referee, who was the handler of Andre the Giant, passed away earlier this week in Ellerbe, NC. Frenchy and wife Jackie ended up living with Andre on his ranch and when Andre died he left the ranch to them. Bernard was 77. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 as a forty year-old nerd explaining DC's pre-Crisis multiverse? [scott Pilgrim voice]32, I am 32[/scott Pilgrim voice] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 There's always how CHIKARA talks to you. We don't talk any more. They don't pay alimony. They don't write. They don't even take my son to Chuck E. Cheese's on every other weekend. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Not if its bad and turns people off which it did.How in the hell would a 6 sided ring turn anyone off who wasn't gonna be turned off by TNA anyway? Someone who wants good wrestling. "Geez they can't even get the ring right."If they used it on the occasional PPV like in No Holds Barred. It would have worked better. Instead it was just an eyesore that made tag wrestling problematic at best. I have no Earthly idea what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Miz doing a "working hurt" face gimmick might actually get him over. Or not. It'll be interesting to see if he gets booked strong as a valiant/DDP-esque babyface moving forward... I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Miz doing a "working hurt" face gimmick might actually get him over. Or not. It'll be interesting to see if he gets booked strong as a valiant/DDP-esque babyface moving forward...I He'll spend too much time whining/bragging about it and everyone will end up booing him. Also, I would never do Yoga because Miz told me to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 If he's the same old Miz, agreed. But if they actually add some depth to his character, you never know...but I'm not holding my breath lol I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEN! Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Man, you know what TNA should do? Something that hasn't been done a hundred times before, a hundred times better already. Quit going back to an already empty well. The six-sided ring combined with the X-Division, a strong tag division, and a strong women's division at least gave them the perception that they were markedly different than WWE at the time. Right now they just look like a bootleg SmackDown with their confused blue branding, traditional four-sided ring, and all the focus on yet another tepid invasion angle with another tired heel authority figure angle on the horizon. Also: there's "news" online that Rob Conway (the current revamped, re-watered-down version of the NWA World Champion), has decided to turn down a WWE Contract. Head-scratching on many levels. They wanted him as a trainer. He didn't want to relocate to Florida. They hired Nick Dinsmore instead. Sin Cara's problems in WWE are 90% his own doing. He didn't want to go to developmental, he won't learn English, and he's clearly a bitch. He quit a match because he jammed a finger. I jam my fingers all the time. I jammed a finger this morning and I'm here, I'm typing stuff right now. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Why did they want Rob Conway as a trainer??? I like the guy, he's fine. But he ain't exactly Fit Finlay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Why did they want Rob Conway as a trainer??? I like the guy, he's fine. But he ain't exactly Fit Finlay. Because he does things the Con-way. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I started watching 25 Greatest Wrestling Rivalries on Netflix earlier. It's been enjoyable so far. Renee Young is the host and there's something I really like about her. So much better than Josh Matthews, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I almost started a thread for this question, because it is really perplexing me: why don't most WWE matches start with a lock-up anymore, let alone some chain wrestling? Is this a directive from on high (Mr. McMahon, HHH)? I am used to the myriad stories that can be developed from a lock-up and I miss it. old & in the way, RAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biz Smarkie Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 He quit a match because he jammed a finger. I jam my fingers all the time. I jammed a finger this morning and I'm here, I'm typing stuff right now." "[Triple H] Tore his quad? Big deal! I tear my quad all the time! I tore my quad this morning! I’m here. I’m jumpin’ around!" Nice Kurt tribute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 IWA-DS continues to be a thing in some fashion for no reason of note. Behold the Carnage Cup card. I expect much Hepatitis. 1st. Round brackets 1. Hostel Death Match "Angel of Death" John Rare vs. Kristian Kross. 2. Pat's Purgatory Death Match FreakShow vs. Yukon Jack. 3. Nail in the Head Death Match Bryant Woods vs. Jay Impact. 4. Smash, Pow, Boom Death Match. TANK vs. "Bulldozer" Matt Tremont. 5. Death Sea Circus Net Death Match. IWA-DS World Champion: Spidar Boodrow vs. California Death Match star: J.D. Horror 6. X marks the spot- tubes Damien Payne vs. Josh Crow 7. Carpet Strip Massacre. "Relentless" Ron Mathis vs. GANGER 8. House of Glass American Kickboxer 2 vs. Sid Fabulous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Why did they want Rob Conway as a trainer??? I like the guy, he's fine. But he ain't exactly Fit Finlay. Hmm, what could he possibly have to offer that WWE would want their wrestlers to emulate? I'm stumped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 It is a terribly emotive smirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yes, it's like he's a Funky Winkerbean character. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 It is a terribly emotive smirk. And nipples that could cut glass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The contact info for a doctor with questionable ethics? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 IWA-DS continues to be a thing in some fashion for no reason of note. Behold the Carnage Cup card. I expect much Hepatitis. 1st. Round brackets 1. Hostel Death Match "Angel of Death" John Rare vs. Kristian Kross. 2. Pat's Purgatory Death Match FreakShow vs. Yukon Jack. 3. Nail in the Head Death Match Bryant Woods vs. Jay Impact. 4. Smash, Pow, Boom Death Match. TANK vs. "Bulldozer" Matt Tremont. 5. Death Sea Circus Net Death Match. IWA-DS World Champion: Spidar Boodrow vs. California Death Match star: J.D. Horror 6. X marks the spot- tubes Damien Payne vs. Josh Crow 7. Carpet Strip Massacre. "Relentless" Ron Mathis vs. GANGER 8. House of Glass American Kickboxer 2 vs. Sid Fabulous Yeah, I am really surprised they find enough guys willing to do this to fill out a tournament bracket. A nail in the head match? Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 What's Tank been up to, other than this IWA-DS spot? Always enjoyed his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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