Ace Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Ultimo's WWE run was gravy anyways, since it was thought his career was over due to the botched elbow surgery back when WCW shut down. Sin Cara's gone from being a top draw in Mexico to being an injury-prone slopmonster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I feel like there will be whole shoot videos of people who witnessed the whole mess first hand, telling the horrible tale from their perspective like a Wrestling Rashomon. And the host of those shoot videos will ask every guest how big Mistico's dong is. Wow. I'm in awe of how perfectly you executed that. Well done. I somehow forgot all about that shirt. Yep. The Natural is one of my favorite dudes here, but that pushed it to a whole new level. Bravo sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I can't imagine Sin Cara having any desire to re-sign, any more than I can imagine Vince having any interest in re-signing him, so what's next? IIRC he left CMLL on bad terms, would they rehire him just so they could "punish" him? Would Konnan hire him for AAA and give him a new gimmick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Carlos would say Max Moon should be on this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimoDANK Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 That would be a cool angle. JBL really was a fantastic heel champion. Gotta believe history is going to under rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 He was a great heel, and had mostly good matches while on top. Worked well with big dudes and little guys. Was one of the best promo guys in the company during his big run. I think he was a huge surprise, and he kept Smackdown entertaining when they'd get draft raped. As a Smackdown historian, I'd say he was one of the MVPs of the brand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I hated him at the beginning and then mourned the end of the reign by the end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I loved JBL's retirement match. If I were a wrestler who made his name as a heel, that's one of the ways I would want to go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Konnan always speaks on WWE dropping the ball with Mistico. There should have been a few people brought along with him to WWE that were able to work his style. Instead of having him in the ring with people that have NO CLUE how to work the lucha style. Seems like everyone's forgotten about Hunico. Granted, that's just one guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I feel like there will be whole shoot videos of people who witnessed the whole mess first hand, telling the horrible tale from their perspective like a Wrestling Rashomon. And the host of those shoot videos will ask every guest how big Mistico's dong is. I clicked "like," in the absence of a "proposed marriage to this exchange regardless of my local community's acceptance of the love I have for it" option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Konnan always speaks on WWE dropping the ball with Mistico. There should have been a few people brought along with him to WWE that were able to work his style. Instead of having him in the ring with people that have NO CLUE how to work the lucha style. Seems like everyone's forgotten about Hunico. Granted, that's just one guy. Yeah, what with Misterio, Del Rio, Punk, Danielson, Claudio, the aforementioned Hunico, and innumerable folks far better and just on the verge of call-ups ... y'know, nowhere to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 The JBL/Eddie feud was amazing stuff. I absolutely loved JBL's debut heel promo and routine. I'm a financial journalist for a living and hearing him talk up about the grandeur of his portfolio and his wealth made my heel heart swoon. I have to talk to people like JBL for a while. In real life, people aren't black-or-white good or bad. But JBL's characterization of Wall Street power brokers wasn't too far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Good point Johnnyj. Konnan always speaks on WWE dropping the ball with Mistico. There should have been a few people brought along with him to WWE that were able to work his style. Instead of having him in the ring with people that have NO CLUE how to work the lucha style. It seems silly for the WWE to bend over backwards to adjust to his style when it's Sin Cara who should have adapted his style to the WWE. Bringing people who can work a lucha style will only get him so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 http://youtu.be/iVxhRlFhVzA Enzo is going to be a huge star. Edit: http://youtu.be/G7VbKGJtsEA No wait, this guy is going to be huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 http://youtu.be/iVxhRlFhVzA Enzo is going to be a huge star. Edit: http://youtu.be/G7VbKGJtsEA No wait, this guy is going to be huge. The Enzo thing is awesome, as is everything he does now. A couple weeks back, he walked into the NXT arena and just controlled the crowd from the get-go. I haven't seen anyone on the mic in NXT, save Bray Wyatt, who just has the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand. Love the Louis promo, too. I like that his gimmick seems to be French Tobias Funke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Territorial Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Good point Johnnyj. Konnan always speaks on WWE dropping the ball with Mistico. There should have been a few people brought along with him to WWE that were able to work his style. Instead of having him in the ring with people that have NO CLUE how to work the lucha style. It seems silly for the WWE to bend over backwards to adjust to his style when it's Sin Cara who should have adapted his style to the WWE. Bringing people who can work a lucha style will only get him so far. I kinda agree, at least in the sense that Sin Cara seems to have done very little to make the transition easier on himself. But..... if your product isn't really suited to the lucha style and you don't have anyone on the roster who knows how to take his offense and make it look good AND bringing in guys who can work the lucha style isn't a priority AND neither you nor he want him to go to developmental and be torn down and retrained from scratch..... .... then, maybe, you don't really need to sign said luchador in the first place? I think Mistico could have done more to help himself integrate into the company style, but it's really head-scratching the way he was handled. I think he could still have gotten over if he hadn't been so prone to injuries and botches, but it's not a huge surprise to me that he failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Didnt Mistico also come into the company with a big head, which is one of the things they always warn people against when they get there? "What you did elsewhere doesnt matter? Who cares you sold out arena mexico or won the Observer Wrestler of the Year?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I don't believe the idea that no one on the WWE roster had worked with lucha or knew how to take his moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 And it's not like WWE didn't give the guy every opportunity to get over. But I honestly don't think Sin Cara lived up to the hype/rose to the occasion. I mean he couldn't even pull off his own special entrance consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I cannot understand why they would hotshot him to the main roster like they did. This isn't the era where you sign a guy from the competition and immediately throw him on television, he could have easily sat in developmental and then they do the press of "signing one of Mexico's top lucha guys" and bringing him to television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Why does WWE run house shows up against Smackdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Because it's Friday and people want to go out and do stuff. There's so many more people who watch the WWE than watch Smackdown ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I cannot understand why they would hotshot him to the main roster like they did. This isn't the era where you sign a guy from the competition and immediately throw him on television, he could have easily sat in developmental and then they do the press of "signing one of Mexico's top lucha guys" and bringing him to television. I think they were like... "Alright, you don't want to go to development? Fine you fucking asshole, don't go! Let's see if you can get over wrestling your style, and performing under really shitty blue, and gold lighting." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Outside of the shitty lighting I feel more or less that all of Mistico's failure to become something in WWE is on him. He just never really adjusted. For all the talk of WWE failing to give him guys who could play base for him people seem to forget Rey Mysterio and various other high flyers in WWE never had the same amount of problems adjusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Yeah, but some of those guys you're talking about worked previously for the other company from the 90's. And like Mistico, those guys had a lot of trouble adjusting to the american style when they first came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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