Matt D Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Is Ultimo's WWE run the most disappointing? He just couldn't catch a break Low Ki's is pretty hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Austin actually told me that was it on Twitter. I'm not just CM Punk's favourite gimmick poster, you see. I don't know about others on here, but I'll say it ... thank you for asking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 What's up with Samoa Joe? Why is he still in TNA? Here are the the last things I remember about the guy: - his match vs Kobashi, which was pretty great and the real catalyst for me getting into 90's AJPW - going to TNA, meh. - Kurt Angle going to TNA and people creaming themselves because Angle vs Joe, meh. - A rumour about him being up for the Umaga spot but turning it down and Eddie Fatu picking up the ball and scoring the touchdown -......... - Now With a ton of indie dudes being in the E some way or another, I would have guessed Joe would be there being Joe Sam, the Samoan Guy. Um, "profit?" /underpantsgnomes Edit, to add hooptedoodle: I'm going to try to "multiquote" more often, y'all. Shitty week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Is Ultimo's WWE run the most disappointing?He just couldn't catch a breakDragon was very upfront in interviews that his goal with WWE was he just wanted to work MSG a couple of times and anything else was a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKash202 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Samoa Joe was recently on Stone Cold's podcast. I think you need to go listen to that. I won't spoil anything. Good show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Is Ultimo's WWE run the most disappointing? He just couldn't catch a breakAll of windham's singles runs? Widowmaker, stalker, nwa stable?Arguably the tag title run with captain mike was aborted too. And don't forget the New Blackjacks. Better yet, forget the New Blackjacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimoDANK Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 What's the story with KENTA and DBryans sister? That old dog KENTA a heartbreaker? I'd assume she didn't like the beating KENTA was handing out. Odd tidbit to throw in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Territorial Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Is Ultimo's WWE run the most disappointing? He just couldn't catch a break Was Ultimo's run really any worse than Mistico's (so far)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Ultimo had a longer history of quality matches with opponents all over the spectrum, plus he had a much better attitude* *hearsay, I'll admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Mistico's is the bigger disaster. But Ultimo's was more disappointing for me as a fan because I love him, and there were some interesting dudes for him to wrestle with at the time. Mistico, I didn't really watch before hand other than a handful of match so I didn't have that emotional connection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Or what Jae said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 A nice weekend's Botchamania ep could be made comparing and contrasting Ultimo and Mistico's runs. I'd like that very much, actually. As far as non-injurious botches, does Shit Arsa have anything as relatively humiliating as Ultimo's slip on his own cape at 'Mania? Having an arena laugh at your clumsy ass on THE GRANDEST STAGE OF THEM ALL has to be hard to top. Whenever Sin Cara's in the ring, I expect one of his botches at this point to be met with a very vocal, "FOR GOD'S SAKE!" from the audience. Edit, to mark that I've now referred to Sin Cara under three different gimmicks/names (yep, I'm counting Shit Arsa), in one post. Surely a record ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 A nice weekend's Botchamania ep could be made comparing and contrasting Ultimo and Mistico's runs. I'd like that very much, actually. As far as non-injurious botches, does Shit Arsa have anything as relatively humiliating as Ultimo's slip on his own cape at 'Mania? Having an arena laugh at your clumsy ass on THE GRANDEST STAGE OF THEM ALL has to be hard to top. I was waiting to reach the end of the pages to mention that, looks like I was beaten to it haha. What a grand entrance he made to MSG (I'm not sure this was his first MSG match but nevertheless, it was funny). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Mistico's WWE run was more disappointing than Ultimo's. Ultimo was already past his prime while Mistico wasn't that far off from his. Mistico is just flat out blowing it purposely. By the way, I was at MSG when Ultimo slipped and I didn't even notice it and not that many people seemed to notice it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Did Ultimo Dragon slip again when he got into the ring at WrestleMania XX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Mistico's is just an epic horror story. They hyped him perfectly, acknowledging where he came from and making him seem like a future main event player. Then once they turned those stupid fucking lights on for his matches it all went to hell. I feel like there will be whole shoot videos of people who witnessed the whole mess first hand, telling the horrible tale from their perspective like a Wrestling Rashomon. And the host of those shoot videos will ask every guest how big Mistico's dong is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I feel like there will be whole shoot videos of people who witnessed the whole mess first hand, telling the horrible tale from their perspective like a Wrestling Rashomon. And the host of those shoot videos will ask every guest how big Mistico's dong is. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Wow. I'm in awe of how perfectly you executed that. Well done. I somehow forgot all about that shirt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Mistico's is just an epic horror story. They hyped him perfectly, acknowledging where he came from and making him seem like a future main event player. Then once they turned those stupid fucking lights on for his matches it all went to hell. I feel like there will be whole shoot videos of people who witnessed the whole mess first hand, telling the horrible tale from their perspective like a Wrestling Rashomon. And the host of those shoot videos will ask every guest how big Mistico's dong is. The truth of the matter, in my eyes, is that both Mistico and Kharma were presented and debuted nearly perfectly. It's actually not that far off for the Shield and the Wyatt Family either. Even Fandango. For various reasons, not everything has been a success, but I think that bodes really well for the next few years, especially when you look at some of the guys they have in NXT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Oh they've been sooooo much better about rolling new guys out. Del Rio had those vignettes and beat Mysterio out of the gate, for example. Now debuts feel like events. As they should. They've got a good group of older talent who can make new guys look good, and some solid mid card talent that probably won't be going anywhere up anytime soon(Ryder, Kofi, Swagger) to put new dudes over too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 A 50% success rate is probably good for new majorly hyped acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 With Sin Cara there was a combination of factors. You could obviously point to the constant botches and the injuries. But the other problem was he was a cruiserweight luchador thrown into today's WWE. There is no cruiserweight division and no one on the roster besides Mysterio (and bad Sin Cara.. if he's still with the company) who work a lucha style. So, even when Sin Cara's top rope stuff was crisp, his opponents were reacting to it a few seconds too late. It looked crummy. I remember being so frustrated when a few years back Daniel Bryan was stuck doing a job to Sin Cara simply because he could take his top rope finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKash202 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Good point Johnnyj. Konnan always speaks on WWE dropping the ball with Mistico. There should have been a few people brought along with him to WWE that were able to work his style. Instead of having him in the ring with people that have NO CLUE how to work the lucha style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 For some reason, I really want them do have use JBL in a Bill Watts Walking Tall situation where he comes out of retirement as a babyface to deal with some young punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 So, with his Sangre Corre Frio lighting, he really needed the Mexican equivalent of Mortis to feud with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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