Ramsey Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 NAKURAMA IS COMING TO NXT?!?!?!?!? NAKURAMA!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 And his new name will be...JOHN CEEEEENAAAAA! *dee dee dee deeeee dee dee dee deeeee* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 What's so confusing about the Bryan situation and the reason why it is so prime for conspiracy theories is that there are unquestionably people on the roster who are in terrible shape and allowed to continue. Plus, the WWE is now raiding the indies and Japan for guys who have a lot of miles on them. Yet, all of these guys get a pass and Bryan is the one guy not cleared to continue. In a way it feels like they are making an example out of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincey Greene Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'm no lawyer so bear with me. With the (laughable) independent contractor status and the nature of downside contracts, if Bryan is getting cleared by doctors right and left could he sue for loss of income? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I apologize for re-opening this can of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The people that think WWE is not letting Bryan wrestle because he's too over, they hate him, or because he'll ruin Roman's push are truly touched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 You would think though with the reactions he gets when he appears on TV and the merch he still moves that they would put him on TV more in some kind of angle. Almost like Steve Austin as the Raw Sheriff, make him the foil to The Authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Roman's getting mixed reactions either way, so he essentially IS the next Cena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 It is weird that they don't have him on TV more or anything. Honestly, that part is because he's over and is considered by a vocal part of the fan base as the alternative to Reigns. He obviously means something to them because they won't just release him, but they could be using him better if he's over. Of course, maybe they think that it will have minimal returns relative to the fans shitting on Reigns or whoever else they see as contra Bryan, but Reigns isn't getting over with those guys anyway, or at least not for another ten years until he does his own U.S Championship Open Challenges, busts out a Code Red, and the mouthbreathers on Reddit and Cageside Seats and the like can express shock at how good he is in-ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 They've got a ton of little flippy indie guys with less physical mileage on them who don't know how to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I wonder if they used him on NXT in a out of ring role, would his fanbase still disrupt things on Raw/SD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'm no lawyer so bear with me. With the (laughable) independent contractor status and the nature of downside contracts, if Bryan is getting cleared by doctors right and left could he sue for loss of income? Meltzer talked about this a few weeks ago, regarding Bryan getting out of his contract on the same basis. Since he's still getting his downside and merch, Bryan would have to prove he'd still make more elsewhere. Meltzer is not a lawyer either (god I'd love to hear him on a case) but that sounds right, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincey Greene Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'm no lawyer so bear with me. With the (laughable) independent contractor status and the nature of downside contracts, if Bryan is getting cleared by doctors right and left could he sue for loss of income? Meltzer talked about this a few weeks ago, regarding Bryan getting out of his contract on the same basis. Since he's still getting his downside and merch, Bryan would have to prove he'd still make more elsewhere. Meltzer is not a lawyer either (god I'd love to hear him on a case) but that sounds right, I guess. Wonder what NJPW would give a WWE headliner who could work their style... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'm no lawyer so bear with me. With the (laughable) independent contractor status and the nature of downside contracts, if Bryan is getting cleared by doctors right and left could he sue for loss of income? Meltzer talked about this a few weeks ago, regarding Bryan getting out of his contract on the same basis. Since he's still getting his downside and merch, Bryan would have to prove he'd still make more elsewhere. Meltzer is not a lawyer either (god I'd love to hear him on a case) but that sounds right, I guess. Wonder what NJPW would give a WWE headliner who could work their style... 12 more concussions and a wheelchair. Strong style! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Cibernetico Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The "intergender controversy" is basically "Dave and Bryan don't like girls wrestling guys on Lucha Underground" Too be fair - there a couple other people who carry on about it too (Bix being a big one) but yeah it really flared up because of LU Bix is a joke. He has a problem with a worked match between men and women (all parties agreeing to the match), but he has no issue not outing the known racists within the business who are actively working from within to keep racist gimmicks alive and well in the 21st century? The guys morals are really off. Fantasy gets a long easy, but reality gets swept under the rug? The guy is full of shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Sadly, it'll always be a part of the biz since it's easy heat. Carry out some other country's flag + speak some not-'Murican = instant boos and "USA" chants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The "intergender controversy" is basically "Dave and Bryan don't like girls wrestling guys on Lucha Underground" Too be fair - there a couple other people who carry on about it too (Bix being a big one) but yeah it really flared up because of LU Bix is a joke. He has a problem with a worked match between men and women (all parties agreeing to the match), but he has no issue not outing the known racists within the business who are actively working from within to keep racist gimmicks alive and well in the 21st century? The guys morals are really off. Fantasy gets a long easy, but reality gets swept under the rug? The guy is full of shit. What's this part about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The idea of Bryan on NXT is awesome. I'd love to see that. I just don't know what his role would be since Regal is the commissioner. What's this part about? DON'T ENGAGE. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Bryan on TV in any capacity would create the demand for him to wrestle again. Happened every time Shawn Michaels showed his face on television after either of his retirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I actually can't post it here, don't wanna get the guy in trouble, but I just saw a pic of Vince McMahon and Nakamura with their arms around each other, and it's still weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Vince: Good to see you again, Tajiri! You grew your hair out! 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Cibernetico Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The "intergender controversy" is basically "Dave and Bryan don't like girls wrestling guys on Lucha Underground" Too be fair - there a couple other people who carry on about it too (Bix being a big one) but yeah it really flared up because of LU Bix is a joke. He has a problem with a worked match between men and women (all parties agreeing to the match), but he has no issue not outing the known racists within the business who are actively working from within to keep racist gimmicks alive and well in the 21st century? The guys morals are really off. Fantasy gets a long easy, but reality gets swept under the rug? The guy is full of shit. What's this part about? Bix released something from the WCW lawsuits a while ago and he purposefully excluded the name(s?) of the people being accused of racism as that person(s?) may or may not worked for the WWE at the time of Bix's posting. Instead of being a good journalist and doing the right thing to let people know who is who and what is what, he decided to protect these people. Racism is real and actually impacts the bottom line in a company. Look how Muslims have been portrayed in WWE and there has been no black WWE champion (the WCW world title doesn't count as it was considered secondary for the 'B' brand for some time for what reason? What about the rampant sexism in WWE? There are so many issues within pro wrestling that people like the ones listed in the lawsuit should be named so the company can perhaps be forced to knowledge and change instead of keeping 'the good ole boys' club together and thriving for more generations to come. Bix is a coward plain and simple and its not just him. I don't respect any journalist that does that, who has zero spine and is all about protecting people who are doing wrong. Instead of being a force for change, he is now a silent collaborator, and silent collaborators usually agree with the stuff they turn their heads from. Re: Bryan WWE can easily make him a commentator for NXT. He will get to call matches featuring Joe, Balor, Zayn, Crews, and tons of other guys he worked with and plus the crowd will not 'high-jack' the show. If WWE puts him as any featured ringside guest/commentator for the main show and its going to be 'Daniel Bryan' chants all night. WWE would have to edit the auto of every Roman Reigns match. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Well that's the problem. It doesn't matter what his doctors say. WWE's own doctor says he shouldn't wrestle. I'm not a lawyer but 20 years from now when he's in a wheelchair like Dynamite Kid and decides to sue, it's going to be hard to defend if they waive their contracted physician's diagnosis and let him come back. I wouldn't let him come back. He's already shown to have piss-poor judgment regarding his own health. Actually it was the WWE that showed piss poor judgment when they let him fly overseas, and work matches after the concussion occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Vince: Good to see you again, Tajiri! You grew your hair out! He would say Tajiri, but he would think he was talking to Jimmy Yang. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincey Greene Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Is it funny or sad that we all know he means Michael PS Hayes anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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