RIPPA Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Also - almost $11 million of Drew Bress contract became guaranteed yesterday afternoon so he will be the Saints QB next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 In depth piece on the process of the NFL going back to LA - more specific the owner in-fighting over it http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/14752649/the-real-story-nfl-owners-battle-bring-football-back-los-angeles The dueling proposals did not only represent the NFL's most recent, best opportunity to return to Los Angeles. They had also become the centerpiece of a chaotic power struggle among the league's 32 owners, between the so-called new-money group, with members who all supported Inglewood, and the old guard, most of whom favored Carson. Going into the meeting, most believed Carson had more votes. But one moment, many would later recall, seemed to halt its momentum. Michael Bidwill, president of the Cardinals and a Carson supporter, argued that the NFL doesn't exist just to make rich owners richer. Owners needed to consider what would be best for the league, and ... Jones cut him off: "When you guys moved the team from St. Louis to Phoenix -- it wasn't about the money?" As Bidwill tried to answer, Jones moved in for the kill: "You did it for the money." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 In depth piece on the process of the NFL going back to LA - more specific the owner in-fighting over it http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/14752649/the-real-story-nfl-owners-battle-bring-football-back-los-angeles The dueling proposals did not only represent the NFL's most recent, best opportunity to return to Los Angeles. They had also become the centerpiece of a chaotic power struggle among the league's 32 owners, between the so-called new-money group, with members who all supported Inglewood, and the old guard, most of whom favored Carson. Going into the meeting, most believed Carson had more votes. But one moment, many would later recall, seemed to halt its momentum. Michael Bidwill, president of the Cardinals and a Carson supporter, argued that the NFL doesn't exist just to make rich owners richer. Owners needed to consider what would be best for the league, and ... Jones cut him off: "When you guys moved the team from St. Louis to Phoenix -- it wasn't about the money?" As Bidwill tried to answer, Jones moved in for the kill: "You did it for the money." Jerry Jones, for all his faults, doesn't have time for that bullshit. That New York Times piece on NFL owners from last week makes it really clear that he understands what the game is, and he's playing to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincey Greene Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Panthers signed a punter named Swayze Waters. I only know he's a CFL guy but Swayze Waters is immediately in the running for best name ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Panthers signed a punter named Swayze Waters. I only know he's a CFL guy but Swayze Waters is immediately in the running for best name ever. The best part is that he looks like he could be the star of the straight to video Point Break 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonL21 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Apparently, Roger Goodell is going to push for a new rule where two personal foul penalties will get a player ejected. I doubt it gets past the competition committee, though. Way too much room for a ref to ruin a particular game. Especially, on a bad call. You would have make big hits reviewable I would think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Apparently, Roger Goodell is going to push for a new rule where two personal foul penalties will get a player ejected. I doubt it gets past the competition committee, though. Way too much room for a ref to ruin a particular game. Especially, on a bad call. You would have make big hits reviewable I would think Wouldn't that make it WAY to easy to fix a game/shave points too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Ginger Bowl Cut Jr. agrees to play next season in Oakland in the shit flooding stadium. . . not that he really had much choice at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APO Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Apparently, Roger Goodell is going to push for a new rule where two personal foul penalties will get a player ejected. I doubt it gets past the competition committee, though. Way too much room for a ref to ruin a particular game. Especially, on a bad call. You would have make big hits reviewable I would think Wouldn't that make it WAY to easy to fix a game/shave points too? Yup. Unless stuff like hands to the face and facemask penalties are changed, it's way too easy to kick an impact defensive player/star O-lineman out with that proposed rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMark Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I'd definitely limit the definition of what's "yellow cardable" but I think it's a good idea. Rules regarding ejection are a little discretionary at the moment. I think it's a good rule, but that's a separate issue from NFL referees being shit. I don't think they're crooked, just shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 When personal foul = D lineman swats at a pass, misses and glances Tom Brady's helmet, then Brady cries enough that the ref throws a flag just to stop the temper tantrum, this is a bad rule. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 When personal foul = D lineman swats at a pass, misses and glances Tom Brady's helmet, then Brady cries enough that the ref throws a flag just to stop the temper tantrum, this is a bad rule. Not only that, some of those big hits over the middle are just two really fast people running towards each other. We like to say that the DB was head hunting, when in reality he'd have to be super human to be able to aim his hit accurately at that speed. If they start tossing people for what Aqib Talib did in the Super Bowl, I understand, but if they start tossing people for things outside of their control I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Apparently, Roger Goodell is going to push for a new rule where two personal foul penalties will get a player ejected. I doubt it gets past the competition committee, though. Way too much room for a ref to ruin a particular game. Especially, on a bad call. You would have make big hits reviewable I would think Wouldn't that make it WAY to easy to fix a game/shave points too? Why do you think he's proposing it? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 When personal foul = D lineman swats at a pass, misses and glances Tom Brady's helmet, then Brady cries enough that the ref throws a flag just to stop the temper tantrum, this is a bad rule. Not only that, some of those big hits over the middle are just two really fast people running towards each other. We like to say that the DB was head hunting, when in reality he'd have to be super human to be able to aim his hit accurately at that speed. If they start tossing people for what Aqib Talib did in the Super Bowl, I understand, but if they start tossing people for things outside of their control I don't understand. Exactly. That and the personal foul calls that wouldn't have been personal fouls had the receiver or runner not lowered his own helmet. In the end, the refs just can't be relied on to make correct calls, so why have a rule where a guy can get tossed from a game because of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I think we should do away with full speed football, guys are only allowed to play at half effort at most. Also QB's aren't allowed to be touched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I think we should do away with full speed football, guys are only allowed to play at half effort at most. Also QB's aren't allowed to be touched. Are you Tom Brady? You and your tiny little wide receivers who run nothing but rub routes can go straight to hell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMark Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 When personal foul = D lineman swats at a pass, misses and glances Tom Brady's helmet, then Brady cries enough that the ref throws a flag just to stop the temper tantrum, this is a bad rule. It's terrible officiating, which isn't quite the same thing. A league with as much money as the NFL should be able to fix both problems in their rule books and problems with the people calling them; Making ejections less vague is one of the former. Of course, if it goes through then some work on what a Personal Foul is needs to be done: is excessive celebration a personal foul? I know it's fifteen yards, but someone doesn't need to be chucked for it. However, the Carolina player who came in head-first and late on a guy who'd been tackled deserves to be one brain-fart away from being gone. I would like to hear officials mic'd up all the time, just to get a sense of the conversations they have with players. At least, on TV; it's not like I'm asking for the referee on the PA every moment of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I've been thinking about that, paired with what I and others said earlier about how certain things are too close and shouldn't lead to ejection. If the league really wants to do "2 personal fouls and you're out," then they need new classifications for penalties. Talib trying to unscrew that guy's head like he was looking for Pez is not in the same ballpark as bumping into into a QB two steps too late. They'd need a new category for the really egregious, obviously-awful stuff and just eject guys for that. Shit, I'd be for one-and-done instead of two penalties if they were redone along these lines. If throwing a punch is an automatic ejection, certainly trying to remove another man's head is, too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Matt Forte has been told that the Bears will not re-sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glfpunk Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Has anyone been able to locate stats on how often a player has received more than one personal foul penalty in a game the last few seasons? I'm having a hard time finding stats on it but just from memory it seems like something that doesn't happen very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Matt Forte has been told that the Bears will not re-sign him I can see him being that guy that has one last good year on the Patriots then hangs it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Has anyone been able to locate stats on how often a player has received more than one personal foul penalty in a game the last few seasons? I'm having a hard time finding stats on it but just from memory it seems like something that doesn't happen very often. Maybe everyone is (over) reacting to the Vontez Berverct B.S. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Can we have them figure out what a catch is before trying to figure out what a red card penalty is? Crawl before walk, NFL. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Has anyone been able to locate stats on how often a player has received more than one personal foul penalty in a game the last few seasons? I'm having a hard time finding stats on it but just from memory it seems like something that doesn't happen very often.Maybe everyone is (over) reacting to the Vontez Berverct B.S. ?Norman & Odell, more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The other issue is some personal foul penalties shouldn't be personal fouls. I'd argue certain offensive line penalties aren't malicious but should stay 15-yarders. I'd limit it to unnecessary roughness calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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