Elsalvajeloco Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 That should be fun I guess that is a Fight pass card or FS1? It's happening at night for the US audience and in the morning for local audience so it's a FS1 card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Tony Ferguson is getting a rematch against Michael Johnson at UFC 197. Ferguson wanted to fight again before his kid was born. Khabib isn't ready yet and Alvarez just fought obviously. Risky fight for both guys, especially for Johnson who is down 0-2 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Two replacements have been announced: Francisco Rivera is replacing Henry Briones against Brad Pickett on the Silva vs. Bisping card. Bryan Barberena has been pulled out of his fight (originally set to fight Jonavin Webb in Pittsburgh) to replace Andrew Holbrook against Sage Northcutt. It will be contested at welterweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 Since Barberena is facing Sage now, Nathan Coy is fighting Jonavin Webb in Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Per Dana's Twitter - Cain Velasquez is OUT with a back injury It's now Stipe vs Werdum for the title on February 6th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Damn.. hadn't realized the fight was so close already. Was gonna be pulling for Cain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Jesus fucking Christ with the injuries. Fuck this. WAR STIPE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I hope Stone Cold Stipe makes another return and smashes another mudhole into Werdum. This immediate rematch was ridiculous anyway. Not surprised Cain got injured again. He's 33 now. His body won't let him get away with over training anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 He's 33 now. His body won't let him get away with over training anymore. I don't know if we can assign that to overtraining considering there is a champ at AKA who is 3 years older than him and who is his primary training partner. Even with less MMA experience, Cormier ain't a spring chicken given that he wrestled frequently prior to getting in to MMA. Without being in the gym with them everyday, your frame of reference of what undertraining and overtraining is nil. I mean Khabib got hurt in Russia and not AKA. Some guys just aren't that durable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 He's 33 now. His body won't let him get away with over training anymore. I don't know if we can assign that to overtraining considering there is a champ at AKA who is 3 years older than him and who is his primary training partner. Even with less MMA experience, Cormier ain't a spring chicken given that he wrestled frequently prior to getting in to MMA. Without being in the gym with them everyday, your frame of reference of what undertraining and overtraining is nil. I mean Khabib got hurt in Russia and not AKA. Some guys just aren't that durable. Look at this video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Yeah, that's some Lion's Den shit straight up right there. Also, what relevance does a video from 4 and 1/2 years ago have to do with something in January 2016? Did one the reps hop into a DeLorean and shoot a debilitating impulse down his spine? VileOne, you are the worst when it comes to discussion about MMA training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 And exhibit B. This is from September 2014. http://espn.go.com/blog/mma/post/_/id/21156/velasquez-on-whether-hes-injury-prone-werdum ESPN: All sports have athletes who, for one reason or another, can’t stay healthy. Are we there with you, yet? Do you think that’s fair or have you just been unlucky? Velasquez: I really think it has to do with the way I train. If I’m hurt a little, I’m still going to train. I guess my head is pretty strong and I can push through pain, but it’s bad because it’s definitely messed up my body at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Neither proves anything, really. The reply with the video is quite laughable and I thought you linked the wrong video. But apparently, you're serious and that's quite sad. What is AKA been doing the last 3 or so years that qualifies as overtraining versus what they were doing when Cain Velasquez was an up and coming fighter? Also, what are people like Daniel Cormier and Ruslan Magomedov doing differently to stay relatively injury free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 When did I say AKA? I said Cain's over-training. For years it was put over how Cain is a freak and a gym rat. Is it so insane to think that's finally catching up with him? And then you see him do stupid stuff like in the above video. Yeah it's impressive and insane that he can do that. But is it crazy to think doing that in the gym on a constant basis is maybe hurting him in the long-term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 When did I say AKA? I said Cain's over-training. For years it was put over how Cain is a freak and a gym rat. Is it so insane to think that's finally catching up with him? And then you see him do stupid stuff like in the above video. Yeah it's impressive and insane that he can do that. But is it crazy to think doing that in the gym on a constant basis is maybe hurting him in the long-term? So basically, you have no idea what you mean and just scotch taping a bunch of stuff you kinda heard. Ok, gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Cain said it himself. His own words. He's booked for yet another title fight and he's injured yet again. This has become the story of his UFC career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Cain said it himself. His own words. No, you pulled a quote from some interview from about fourteen months without a hint of context. You're basically talking out of your ass like you do whenever you talk about MMA training. What is AKA been doing the last 3 or so years that qualifies as overtraining versus what they were doing when Cain Velasquez was an up and coming fighter? Also, what are people like Daniel Cormier and Ruslan Magomedov doing differently to stay relatively injury free? If you can answer those two questions with substantial, concrete evidence, then MAYBE I can take you serious. Otherwise, it is the same as before when you've discussed this. Just absolute rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 It seems like I've hit some sort of nerve here. I'm not pinning this on AKA in this case. I'm pinning it on Cain. I feel like doing crap like what he did in the 2011 video is proof that he does some pretty boneheaded stuff in training, and it's not surprising he's constantly getting hurt when he trains like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 It seems like I've hit some sort of nerve here. No, it's because you've done quite a horrendous job explaining this among any other time you've tried to discuss MMA training and/or what could be done to fix these problems. The MMA training regulation several months back was perhaps the silliest. Instead of rational explanations or reasoning, all I've seen is very Sherdog-ish conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I don't understand how any of y'all could be rooting against Werdum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Because Stipe is fucking awesome and always has been. That's how. Given the history with other fighters I've been behind since they started, namely Johny, Stipe will win the title and then lose it in a rematch via a bullshit decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 I would actually give Stipe a good shot to at least be very competitive against Werdum if he had maybe a month to train. I don't know with basically one or two weeks to train. I think the upside is that the Arlovski fight was basically 2 or 3 strikes exchanged. With just over a month between fights, you can do worse. Speaking of Johny, Bigg Rigg Steakhouse is no more: http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/other-sports/moresports/2016/01/21/johny-hendricks-weight-cut-will-work-failed-restaurant-scary-new-dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Ross Pearson vs. Abel Trujillo has been added to the Brisbane card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I would actually give Stipe a good shot to at least be very competitive against Werdum if he had maybe a month to train. I don't know with basically one or two weeks to train. I think the upside is that the Arlovski fight was basically 2 or 3 strikes exchanged. With just over a month between fights, you can do worse. Speaking of Johny, Bigg Rigg Steakhouse is no more: http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/other-sports/moresports/2016/01/21/johny-hendricks-weight-cut-will-work-failed-restaurant-scary-new-dog Yeah, I saw that. I'm glad he has a better idea to manage his nutrition now. That's also interesting about venison, regarding it containing creatine. I never had any idea, but then again, I've never eaten venison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm pulling for Stipe if he shows up like he did against Arlovski and acts like Stone Cold Steve Austin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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