Technico Support Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 For all the bitching about Bayley kicking out of Jax's finisher, I noticed the majority, if not all, of her covers after hitting the legdrop were cocky, loose covers (foot on the chest, two hands on the chest, etc). As Gorilla would say, "you gotta hook the leg, Jess." Holy shit that crowd was fucking insufferable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 For all the bitching about Bayley kicking out of Jax's finisher, I noticed the majority, if not all, of her covers after hitting the legdrop were cocky, loose covers (foot on the chest, two hands on the chest, etc). As Gorilla would say, "you gotta hook the leg, Jess." Holy shit that crowd was fucking insufferable. Yeah, I think Byron made note that it had to be her inexperience to be covering her like that. It would have been an interesting story if she were undefeated for say six months or something and they really built up this match. Like that's the one thing I didn't like about this match. It felt like a main card WWE angle. It was really rushed time wise. Usually, NXT is a little better taking their time building up stuff. They should have done Bayley/Eva Marie at this Takeover and while building up Nia's reign of terror for the next one. You know it could be Bayley has power down in NXT. Behold the power of the wacky inflatable waving arm tube men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 It would've been perfect if they had done the Bayley/Eva match from the NXT show on this Takeover instead. And then built to Bayley/Nia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think the underlying story was Nia was in over her head emotionally. She's physically got everything ready kayfabe wise. There hasn't been a WWE woman's wrestler like her in ages. There certainly hasn't been anyone in NXT like her. But this was her first big match against an opponent whose biggest strengths are her resiliency and guile. Bayley's guts shocked a physical bully and then Bayley found a way to beat her.Give Nia another few months for a rematch and we probably have a different outcome.That match hardly killed anyone.Hoping we get a Bayley/Emma feud with some Dana shenanigans. Dana might be my favorite person in NXT right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 For all the bitching about Bayley kicking out of Jax's finisher, I noticed the majority, if not all, of her covers after hitting the legdrop were cocky, loose covers (foot on the chest, two hands on the chest, etc). As Gorilla would say, "you gotta hook the leg, Jess." Holy shit that crowd was fucking insufferable. That was fine for the first two. But five finishers later and Bayley is still kicking out, even with strong covers, and then winning with a submission she shouldn't be able to do because Nia had just broken her shoulder and spent the entire match crushing her ribs. The whole thing was staggeringly poorly laid out. Which is extra crazy because all the women's matches have been laid out so well to mask the flaws of the talent involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoychers Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I thought THIS was Jax's finisher, not the legdrop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 She's used that, the leg drop, and Samoan drops as finishers. She hit 4 leg drops, 3 Samoan drops, and two uranages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Showed a friend who is a casual fan some of Takeover- his opinion of Nia Jax- she'd make a damn good Klingon. Maybe use Klingons for inspiration to make her more menacing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I still like the idea that we all thought it was Bayley who was in over her head going into the match, but as it turned out, Nia was the one in over her head. I am fine with Nia having to learn that it takes more than size and a few leg drops to be champ as the story of that match. However, I get where people who think it was too early to run the match are coming from. I agree. Big picture, pulling Becky Lynch back down for a short program predicated on "I'm the only one of the Four Horsewomen who has never been champ, and I need to correct that" would have left more time to build up Jax/Bayley properly for Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I'm watching this show and laughing at people bitching about the crowd chanting. Apparently these people have never seen a football match from the UK or Europe. That's how they roll over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zheroen Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 It's like being annoyed at a Japanese crowd for being silent during a matwork segment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I'm watching this show and laughing at people bitching about the crowd chanting. Apparently these people have never seen a football match from the UK or Europe. That's how they roll over there. Yeah, those NFL games at Wembley are singalonga Sunday alright. Heh. Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Its about when to sing and chant not that they were doing it period. The post Mania Raws have already jumped the shark. I can only imagine how terrible it's going to be this year with 3 hours of neck beards singing to Bailey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Yeah, they were chanting for her when she was down as a means to show support, and they were with her. The chanting for Bayley was the perfect time to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Complaining about how, when, and why people cheer seems like a ridiculous complaint to me. You guys sound like my crazy uncle who used to get pissed off when he heard children laughing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Complaining about how, when, and why people cheer seems like a ridiculous complaint to me. You guys sound like my crazy uncle who used to get pissed off when he heard children laughing. That works, since most of the people who say "If you don't celebrate and honor every single time that the fans chant "YOU SUCK (s.o.)!" to the Divas, then you just want Corpus Christi-like dead crowds!" sound like the type of people who would watch the Moon landing and tell people "Screw those astronauts, what the hell did they ever do? I watched this happen, I'm the real hero here!", so it's pretty even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The singing at Takeover was not in support of the wrestlers. They were just drunk people singing to hear themselves sing. Hence singing all night no matter who was in the ring or what was going on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Complaining about how, when, and why people cheer seems like a ridiculous complaint to me. You guys sound like my crazy uncle who used to get pissed off when he heard children laughing. That works, since most of the people who say "If you don't celebrate and honor every single time that the fans chant "YOU SUCK (s.o.)!" to the Divas, then you just want Corpus Christi-like dead crowds!" sound like the type of people who would watch the Moon landing and tell people "Screw those astronauts, what the hell did they ever do? I watched this happen, I'm the real hero here!", so it's pretty even. It is probably somewhere in between those two. It is kind of like the last Raw I went to when a lady and her kids were very vocal, and some dude shh'd her. She looked him dead in the face and said, "you're at a wrestling show, and you're complaining that kids are cheering." Except she said it like, "Bitch, if you don't turn around and shut the fuck up, I will kill you and your entire family." People go to wrestling shows to have a good time, and I guess you can complain about how they have that good time, but why the hell would you do that? Wrestling is supposed to be fun, and those people went to the show and had a great time, I for one can't find fault in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The singing at Takeover was not in support of the wrestlers. They were just drunk people singing to hear themselves sing. Hence singing all night no matter who was in the ring or what was going on. You are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The singing at Takeover was not in support of the wrestlers. They were just drunk people singing to hear themselves sing. Hence singing all night no matter who was in the ring or what was going on. You are wrong. They were singing when nothing was happening, in matches they weren't engaged in, because they were drunk and like to sing. That's like...completely normal with UK wrestling shows. I don't know what you'd take offense to about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The only match on the show I'd say they were not engaged in was Corbin/Crews, which was also the match with the least chanting.They would chant for babyfaces to show support, and would boo heels. Try Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 What am I trying to do? Saying UK crowds like to sing to hear themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyuubi Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I think the wise move here was that they did not have Eva Marie perform at all or even win the NXT women's title because god forbid, we would have a completely different discussion how the crowd was rude vs. the booking is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Sugar Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The only match on the show I'd say they were not engaged in was Corbin/Crews, which was also the match with the least chanting.They would chant for babyfaces to show support, and would boo heels. Try Again. The crowd wasn't into this match, which was unfortunate because I thought they did a really good job. They popped for Corbin winning, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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