ChesterCopperpot Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Junior: 99.3% Piazza: 83% Bagwell: 71.6% Raines: 69.8% Hoffman: 67.3% Schill: 52.3% Clemens: 45.2% Bonds: 44.3% Edgar: 43.4% Mussina: 43% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Wow, that's a lot higher than I expected for Hell's Bells. Guess he'll get in eventually. I will all but guarantee that whoever didn't vote for Griffey will say: "No one gets in during the steroid era" OR (and I pray it's this one) "If Ruth didn't get 100, no one does." Either way, they're assholes. Congrats to Junior and Piazza. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Votes Percentage437 Ken Griffey Jr. 99.3%365 Mike Piazza 83.0%315 Jeff Bagwell 71.6%307 Tim Raines 69.8%296 Trevor Hoffman 67.3%230 Curt Schilling 52.3%199 Roger Clemens 45.2%195 Barry Bonds 44.3%191 Edgar Martinez 43.4%189 Mike Mussina 43.0%180 Alan Trammell 40.9%150 Lee Smith 34.1%92 Fred McGriff 20.9%73 Jeff Kent 16.6%68 Larry Walker 15.5%54 Mark McGwire 12.3%51 Gary Sheffield 11.6%46 Billy Wagner 10.5%31 Sammy Sosa 7.0%11 Jim Edmonds 2.5%8 Nomar Garciaparra 1.8%3 Mike Sweeney 0.7%2 David Eckstein 0.5%2 Jason Kendall 0.5%1 Garret Anderson 0.2%0 Brad Ausmus 0.0%0 Luis Castillo 0.0%0 Troy Glaus 0.0%0 Mark Grudzielanek 0.0%0 Mike Hampton 0.0%0 Mike Lowell 0.0%0 Randy Winn 0.0% The whole list. So what's worse, that three didn't vote for Jr. or that three DID vote for Mike Sweeney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 They don't need to be mutually exclusive. If the three that didn't vote for Griffey did it for strategy purposes, I have no issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Thats a narrative i heard today. "I know Junior is getting in, so im using that slot to vote for X." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 God damn just fuck this worthless hall. The two guys who are in both deserve it, nothing but respect. But neither of them were close to Bonds, and fuck it is absurd. Two fucking people on a ballot with ~a dozen worthy guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The hall of fame fucking sucks and fuck everyone. No Bonds you pieces of shit. Fuck you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Niners and I disagree on a lot, but Bonds is our unifying force, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Well I want to know what goes through someone's mind when they vote for David Eckstein. Maybe they also voted for Bonds so I'm not saying they voted him over Barry but it just reinforces the idea that these people are mostly clueless. I don't want to pick on Eckstein but fuck it he's a millionaire so why should he care. Look at him. .280 career hitter. Okay, cool. Fine. He was a solid hitter. I guess. That .701 OPS doesn't look great. It doesn't even look good. He was an okay fielder. Ah fuck it. Why bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Unrelated: if ever a player should walk onto that hall of fame stage with Drake playing, it's Piazza Started at the bottom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Yeah he went from 0 potential to 100 real fucking quick. Please note I have no issues with Mike Piazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Lowest pick to ever make the hall (and Griffey is the highest, first ever number one to make it) having been taken in the 62nd round, 1,390th overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 There's something wrong with this world when Trevor Hoffman gets 65% more votes for the HOF than Alan Trammell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 @josecanseco Congrats to Junior the 3rd teammate off my Springfield Nuclear Power Plant team to make the Baseball Hall of Fame! hug for Mike Piazza too 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Well I want to know what goes through someone's mind when they vote for David Eckstein. Maybe they also voted for Bonds so I'm not saying they voted him over Barry but it just reinforces the idea that these people are mostly clueless. I don't want to pick on Eckstein but fuck it he's a millionaire so why should he care. Look at him. .280 career hitter. Okay, cool. Fine. He was a solid hitter. I guess. That .701 OPS doesn't look great. It doesn't even look good. He was an okay fielder. Ah fuck it. Why bother. I think it is probably a favor for a guy the writer likes. God help us all if it is more than that. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 @josecanseco Congrats to Junior the 3rd teammate off my Springfield Nuclear Power Plant team to make the Baseball Hall of Fame! hug for Mike Piazza too Art Howe outright stole Mr. Burns' "Get up there and hit a home run!" strategy when he managed the A's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 That fucking sucks that Edmonds fell off the ballot. Bonds should be in no doubt in my mind but the Baseball writers don't seem to grasp the Musem part of the equation. Just put in on the fucking Plague like Rose and Clemens. Hell Shoeless Joe as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 LeBatard is claiming responsibility on Twitter. I am, to put it mildly, skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 He lost his ballot two years ago when he donated it to Deadspin. It's a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Then I am, to put it mildly, VERY skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I was looking through the guys with the most hits and confused by the limited push at the time for some guys like Al Oliver, Vada Pinson and other similar guys who were borderline in theory but had no support at all? Anyone more familiar with those types of guys not getting in while guys with technically shittier careers did? Weird voter intangible necessities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So, is Jim Edmonds the best player ever to be a one and done on the ballet? Ken Griffey Jr. put up 77.7 WAR in his career, Edmonds put up 64.5. One is the highest percentage of votes ever, the other can't stay on the ballet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Wasn't Lou Whitaker one and done. I don't know if he was better or worse, but one ballot was criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Edmonds was a Brewer, The Cardinals fan voters automatically didn't vote for him and forced the rest of the votes for him to not be tabulated via hacking. Maybe it was his lack of total hits? Sub 2k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So, is Jim Edmonds the best player ever to be a one and done on the ballet? Ken Griffey Jr. put up 77.7 WAR in his career, Edmonds put up 64.5. One is the highest percentage of votes ever, the other can't stay on the ballet. I would take Willie Randolph, Andres Galarraga and Ken Singleton over Edmonds (in regards to one and doners) I also would have thought that whole cadre of Jays from the early 90s would have gotten more consideration but Joe Carter, Jimmy Key and Dave Stieb all only lasted a year. And yes Whitaker was one and done (and using BR's version of WAR - Whitaker was 74.9 while Edmonds was 60.3 - but using WAR is stupid but that is another discussion) This all being said - I don't know exactly how to "fix" this issue. 1st year guys can't be exempt because the ballot already is bulky to begin with. Unless.... they could someone figure out a way to do a sorta 1st year guy play-in ballot and say only the Top 5 make it to the real ballot. (Then they could be exempt). I mean the writers would just fuck that up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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