Jiji Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I love the spread of talent in the league the past few years. This year, in particular, with the East off to such a good start and some of the Western Conference teams struggling, has such a high entertainment value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Kobe has now made it official that he's done after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Man I can't even put together a top 5. I'm pretty comfortable saying Curry, Lebron and KD are the top 3So many guys are in a tier after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 When CP3 is on he's about as good as anyone but the Clippers always choke so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I don't see how Kawhi isn't in the Top 5 right now. To be able to score 20+ a game combined with his obscene defense puts him up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Am I nuts for thinking Kawhi is a Top 5 player right now? He just destroys gameplans. You were nuts when you said it last year, but you are less nuts for saying it again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I don't see how Kawhi isn't in the Top 5 right now. To be able to score 20+ a game combined with his obscene defense puts him up there.. He is the 4th best small forward. PG13 is putting up 25/8/5 with similar all world defense (yall should be watching the pacers).It's fair to say the other 2 ahead of him have built up a tad bit of cred. No need to defend Lebron on that front, but anyone doubting Durant needs to check that TS%. Leonard isn't top 5, but that is no fault of his own. These dudes are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I really wouldn't be surprised to see the Pacers back in the ECF this year. PG-13 is really friggin' dynamite. CJ Miles is also a very underrated player. Vogel's on the short list of best coaches in the NBA, too. I don't think they have enough to get past a healthy Cavs team in 7 but they're a joy to watch.The "Top 10 Players In The World" right now list is so friggin' weird and hard and awesome. I blame Steph and Golden State. We're looking at a new form of basketball in a lot of ways and this style of play, as well as the quality sportswriting explaining it, really have changed how fans rank players.I mean, how far down the list would you get to before a names like Jimmy Butler or Damian Lillard or Kyle Lowry even came across your mind as a Top 10-type player? Mike Conley hasn't even made an All-Star game and that dude's so good.Jerry West said this week he thought Draymond was a Top 10 player. At first I thought it was just West talking up one of his players but then you think that the team is 19-0 and he's the team's best defensive player and his absurd versatility makes them go, especially when they decide to unleash THE LINEUP OF DOOM and he has a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_MJ_ Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Paul George is having a damn good season numbers wise. Apparently, I need to start checking out some more Pacers game to see how he is doing it. George did not seem excited to play the 4 spot before the season started, so I wonder if it's helping him so far. Kobe is officially on his going away tour. Not even the past hater in me can muster a faux tribute. All star spot locked. The Warriors are obviously playing the best ball right now, but I'm mad we won't see them play against a Spurs, OKC, or even a Cavs team until Christmas. Geez. The West isn't look so hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Regarding the Pacers, this was from last Tuesday: The degree of difficulty of some of those shots is off the charts. Lots of them were contested but it didn't matter. 19 of 26 from beyond the arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I wonder how many of those 7 misses were Monta clanging it off the front of the rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I don't see how Kawhi isn't in the Top 5 right now. To be able to score 20+ a game combined with his obscene defense puts him up there.. He is the 4th best small forward. PG13 is putting up 25/8/5 with similar all world defense (yall should be watching the pacers).It's fair to say the other 2 ahead of him have built up a tad bit of cred. No need to defend Lebron on that front, but anyone doubting Durant needs to check that TS%. Leonard isn't top 5, but that is no fault of his own. These dudes are good. It will be fun tonight to see the Spurs clash with your Bulls. Maybe you will give him a little more credit after seeing him in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I've watched enough Kawhi to know he is a force. His shooting numbers are absurd, especially for a guy seeing double teams for the first time. I've watched a fair amount of every DFS relevant team this year. I'm really not trying to short change Kawhi, but you can't be the 4th best small forward and also be a top 5 player and he just flat out isn't as good as PG13. If Curry didn't exist I think the ESPN machine would be pushing the PG for MVP narrative down our throats right now. George is shooting at a slightly less efficient clip than Kawhi, but he is also facing more double teams and taking more shots (and making some of the most absurd shots this side of Steph Curry). He is doing it all with a far worse supporting cast. Curry, Bron, KD are my top 3 right now and George is leading that 2nd tier for me. Kawhi is getting close, but think of all the names in the mix for that 5th spot (ANTHONY DAVIS! WESTBROOK! etc etc.) You've caught us at the right time, by the way. Bulls are playing like shit and Jimmy has a bum foot. I wouldn't be suprised to see D Rose show up tonight though. Dude only plays well against good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It's crazy how comparable his career ends similar to one of his contemporaries from another sport, Derek Jeter. All world championship winning superstar who ended his career as a multi-million dollar subpar albatross for his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I'll take Kobe's candidness over Jeter's well crafted prewritten responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The bigger albatross hanging around the Lakers neck is Kobe's contract. Baseball and the Knicks don't have to worry about the salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I know you meant Yankees, but LOL. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 HAH! I did. Anyway, tough loss for the Spurs tonight. Their defense held up but their horrible offense from last week came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Six guys in double figures. That's what I want to see. Good W against Miami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Jazz are putting up a fight against the Warriors tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Up by 3 with over 6 to go. Time for Steph to return. Edit: LOL, Curry ties it up in just seconds by jacking up a transition 3. LOVE IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I really thought I would get more schadenfreude from Kobe's collapse, but it's mostly just sad. Like seeing your dad get beat up. Small sample size, but Philly is way worse when their 2 best players are on the floor. So Philly has turned 3 years of being a laughingstock into 2 players that can't play together, 1 that might never play due to injuries, 1 that wants nothing to do with the team, and some more draft picks. We went through this last year with MCW and Wroten. This happens when two bigs have a range of 5 feet. Neither one can step out even for a mid-range jumper with regularity forcing the worst guards in the league to do even more. Seriously, this could very well be the worst team in the history of the NBA. If they cannot win with Kobe going 4-20 as a sixth man on the court they may not see a win for a long time. I would love to know what prop bets the players have regarding who loses to the Sixers first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Even with the Spurs loss, OKC lost again so Spurs have a little bit of a buffer for the 2nd spot early in the season. Loving Houston just falling apart at the seams. Time to blow up the whole thing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 One too many greedy heat checkers from Curry, possibly. ... Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 1) Golden State vs. Utah was a great game. Utah's size is like a kryptonite for the Dubs. But this team is unreal and I'm lucky I get to watch them.2) One point about the Sixers: They've lost their last five games by a total of 24 points, and have had leads in the fourth quarter against all of them, and that includes some really good teams. That's a combined 10-13 more baskets/stops away from a five-game winning streak. I'm far from a "hope springs eternal" person and I'm not even a huge Sixers fan. But they haven't looked truly, truly terrible save for a few games this year, which is to be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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