The Natural Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Frank Castle/the Punisher. Still not watched the Punisher: Season One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 So, uh... Runaways. Holy hell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: So, uh... Runaways. Holy hell Yeah, that about sums it up. That had been my least favorite episide until the last 5 minutes. Too much parents, not enough of the kids. But holy fuck those last 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Also, I never understood the frustration of knowing the big upcoming plot point (The deal with Alex and the password) but talking with people who havent read the comic, were if I tell them what it is, I'm a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I'm surprised how much they foregrounded that. Here's my thing right now, tagged just in case the adults are spectacularly more interesting here for the same reason one of the core ideas of the book is absent: they aren't super villains. Most of them aren't even evil, and the ones that are, are much more grounded real world evil. That is absolutely great for those characters, who had very little personality in the comics, etc. But for the kids... We've lost THE hook of the series. "Every kid at some point thinks their parents are evil. But what if they actually were" so now we're stuck with a bunch of extremely privileged kids with complicated families that are not running away. Hell, two of them seemed to be building new, closer relationships with a parent (at least until the end of this one.) Every time Alex talks about "we have to bring them down" it feels almost out of place, because nobody else is really trying to. And since the Yorkes aren't time traveling despots, and the Deans aren't would be alien conquers, and the Wilders have a criminal past but they aren't running all street crime in L.A. and the Hernandez parents are dead but presumably definitely weren't ostracized mutants, and though the Steins are scientists (and Victor is a horrible person) they aren't mad scientists, and the Minorus are dark wizards, they're software engineers... It makes them better characters, they made a choice to work for Jonah and found themselves somewhere terrible, and stuck, not one note super villains. But it's stalled the momentum of the kids story in a lot of ways. Okay that was a lot of bitching about a show in actually really digging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 5:19 AM, Brian Fowler said: So, uh... Runaways. Holy hell You oversold this. I was expecting more. Actually, no, that's not fair. I was expecting the "big plot point," so anything else would have been disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Enjoyed the episode, but I'm kind of with Matt on that ending being oversold. Folwer also kind of stated my biggest problem with the show. The parents are much more interesting, but the kids and core idea/s of the story have kind of suffered for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 It's a trade-off. I'm okay with it in large part because I've read the comic... But I do think it might be a weaker approach to the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 1:50 AM, The Natural said: So Matt Murdock/Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, what do you think about Iron Fist? They look like someone just made them sit through an episode of Iron Fist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I really didn't like a major part of Runaways this week. Someone has to die! Oh, the box is destroyed nevermind then. Carry on. The stuff with the kids was absolutely great though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Funny thing is I loved the scene over that, but the ending took away tons of impact from it. A lot of the character work before that was really great. And I love the Yorkes way too much. I'm starting to hear complaints about Nico not being likable or attractive enough to warrant the interest from Alex and Karolina in some places. I don't buy that, personally, but it's there. I have some complaints about Gert and Molly myself (Though the extra infusion of OL helped tons for me). I still really like this show and will atch it like clockwork, but some of the shows flaws are showing much more now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 We watch every week and enjoy it enough but it’s definitely just a show to me. You guys are more into it than me. But then I only ever just liked the comic. It always felt like “superhero comics for people who are embarrassed by superhero comics” to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I caught up on RUNAWAYS over the holidays, and it's a show I want to like more than I actually do. The first four episodes are terrific, but by the middle part of the season, they're clearly running out of excuses not to have the Runaways actually run away and smart plotting gets sacrificed for melodrama. I feel like the episode where they did Parent Day at the school was really the nadir, where you could REALLY see the show straining to keep all these characters together. And the most recent episode basically did the same annoying thing in both the kids and parents' stories, where they presented the characters with this big point of conflict where they were going to have to make a tough decision, only to have someone destroy it at the last minute, basically rendering the whole affair pointless besides creating more melodrama to fill another episode. I think it would help if there was a real standout character or performance being given, but with 18 prominent characters in basically every episode, nobody's really given enough time to stand out. As it is, it's just good enough to keep watching, but not compelling enough that I'm breathlessly awaiting the last 2 episodes. Still, that's a lot better than most of Netflix's recent Marvel output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 It definitely needs to hit the finale really well to justify it. Julian McMahon and James Marsters have both been fucking incredible with what they get, but, as mentioned, there are too many to characters for a couple great performances to completely carry things. As for Nico's relative hotness... I'm way too old to even have an opinion. She's a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 But she's 23 in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Yeah, i think the show has potential, but it's not urgent viewing for me. Writing has been decent - and often, very good - but there are just too many characters to work with I feel like the finale is going to/has to include some sort of twist that will turn the show on it's ear, something that will make the kids leave and become "runaways" while at the same time getting the audience behind them. The most logical turn would be to reveal the parents as the sort of supervillians they are in the comic. But, they've done a great job building the parents up as interesting, somewhat sympathetic characters that I'm not sure how easily it would be to get to that point. Right now, the parents generally come off as flawed but concerned about their kids' lives, and the kids come off as teenage drama kings and queens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 If you know nothing about the comic book, the title must be mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 If you've never read the comic, that'a a really whiny group of ingrate kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I wonder if there is anyone watching the show that hasn’t already read the comic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 From what I've seen on Reddit there are a bunch. Even have separate places for people who read the comics and didn't. 10 minutes ago, Keep Calm, Akira Hokuto On said: If you've never read the comic, that'a a really whiny group of ingrate kids. I mean, they watched there parents murder a teenager, and now have evidence they have done it multiple times. What reaction would you expect from someone who found that out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Thoughts on Episode 9 Most likable Gert has been all season. Quite enjoyed the hateful bitch line. The ending has me hyped fucking up. Good job there. Karolina has 3 parents and they are all fucking awful. I won't get TOO far into the Karolina/Nico scene, as even I feel it was kinda underdeveloped, but fuck it, if it happens in comics now I'll be pretty damned happy. Also, no way Alex is traitor. No way any of them are traitors. If anyone filled the "traitor" quota, it's Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hey, actual forward momentum! Both in character and plot! Yeah, I'm hyped for the finale now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Starting (very early) to appear that Runaways is getting renewed. Which I was expecting, but, you know, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Agents of SHIELD returned Friday night... goddamn, who knew Fitz would evolve into such a badass character. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 8:05 AM, El Dragon said: Starting (very early) to appear that Runaways is getting renewed. Which I was expecting, but, you know, who knows. Aaaaand done. Runaways renewed for a 13 episode second season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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