The Natural Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Defenders: Daredevil's costume. The mask/helmet is much improved here and in Daredevil: Season Two to the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Daredevil is going to look weird as the only one in the show with a costume. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Or will they look weird for not wearing costumes? I really wish Danny at least would wear his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Carp with technology but managed to set up the Defenders on my phone. Yeah me. 1/4 Defenders done. Good start, more for the opening episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So, that Defenders ending. Spoiler Sister Maggie? Matt's mom is in the show? I like the idea of the show having a villain that isn't in the comics so that no one can bitch about aesthetics or loyalty to comic book metaplots. Iron Fist still enrages me by not wearing a kung fu outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So, how long did it take them to actually team up? I've heard reports that Matt/Jess don;t even meet until episode 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 12 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: Well, I did not expect that ending. Reveal hidden contents Maggie!!!! This was really good, the best of the Netflix shows since Jessica Jones. Now with 100% more correct thread! About halfway through they actually all four team up. The one thing I really disliked was: Luke Cage's prison sentence basically getting the "how much black magic did father have to use" Thor treatment of hand waving away the consequences of his own story so we could get to the team up story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Defenders is... not terrible but not good. I was so fucking sick of Th Hand by the end of DD S2 that amking thme the focus in Defenders made me almost say "oh fuck this shit!". Elektra was easily the worst part of DD S2. I'd so gladly let them do away with that crap and give me a proper Bullseye arc over anything to do with Elektra Overall Defenders is a solid thumbs in middle slightly turning down for me James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I feel like we've known it was going to be about The Hand since DD season 1. Anyway, yeah, I dug it, although I still wish Elektra had a different actress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Halfway through the Defenders. I'm liking it more than @J.H. but I'm also tired of the Hand. Elektra/the Hand was my least favourite thing about Daredevil: Season Two. Daredevil's first season was so much better with the writing focusing on Daredevil vs. Kingpin's origins instead of cramming everything into Season Two. Better performances in Daredevil: Season One as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 15 hours ago, Mike Zeidler said: So, how long did it take them to actually team up? I've heard reports that Matt/Jess don;t even meet until episode 3. The team up is near the end of episode #3. Matt and Jess meet in episode #2's ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Man, the first episode of Defenders felt like somebody found the most boring deleted scenes from each of the 4 shows and haphazardly edited them together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 We're three episodes in and I like how they interacted with each others' supporting casts before bumping into each other. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuntmanCrowley Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I really don't have any complaints with this. Loved the fight scenes, actually thought they did a fair shake with Iron Fist, trying to really hammer home he was the youngest of them, not only in age but mentally and emotionally. The chemistry was really well done between Cage/Iron Fist IMO and now I want them to have goddamn Heroes for Hire. Also, on aside.....have they built up Daredevil to be the most competent fighter in the MCU....I realize that the Netflix and MCU are different mediums currently, but I feel like hand to hand he is more "competent" than anyone presented thus far, despite being non super-powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_MJ_ Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I just got to episode 3 and I think it is taking them too long to get to the point. With only 8 episodes, they should have met and team up by episode 2. Oh yeah, Danny Iron fist still sucks. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The scene in the 1st episode with Danny and Colleen in the helicopter was the most unintentionally hilarious thing I've seen in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Unlike his own show, this one gets that Danny is a fucking dumbass. It goes a long way to fixing him, just acknowledging that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamal Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I enjoyed Defenders. It wasn't great but it was decent enough. The MVP was definitely Jessica. I enjoyed all of her scenes/interactions most and the show made me eager to see the second season of her show. I also dug all of the moments with the various supporting casts. And while I didn't mind Elektra in DD season 2, I did find the writing for her here all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 So let me get this, Jessica Jones has super powers, Luke Cage has super powers, there friends with a blind lawyer who can do karate acrobatics. In the greater world there is a guy who was frozen during World War 2 and now is alive and running around, a guy who can turn into a giant green monster, two guys with flying suites of armor, a Norse God that walks on earth, and a kid who flings himself around New York solving crimes. But a guy who can channel his chi is a bridge to far? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, muhammedboehm said: So let me get this, Jessica Jones has super powers, Luke Cage has super powers, there friends with a blind lawyer who can do karate acrobatics. In the greater world there is a guy who was frozen during World War 2 and now is alive and running around, a guy who can turn into a giant green monster, two guys with flying suites of armor, a Norse God that walks on earth, and a kid who flings himself around New York solving crimes. But a guy who can channel his chi is a bridge to far? He also punched the heart of a dragon. More seriously, though, other than arguably Thor*, the other known heroes in this universe (afaik nobody knows anything about Dr. Strange outside the characters in that movie) are basically all sci-fi based, while Danny is mystic. It's a totally different vibe. Luke and Cap got their powers from experiments, Peter, Bruce, Jessica and Matt from accidents, Tony and Rhodey from engineering. Danny punched the heart of a dragon. *Thor being more alien then actual God in this continuity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 After The Defenders, I really never want to see The Hand on TV again. The show was good right up until the third act. The Hand's master plan was dumb. Black Sky was dumb and served no actual purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_MJ_ Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) I agree with whoever said Jessica Jones character is the most entertaining out of the bunch. Yeah, her fight scenes are never going to the best out the four if that's what you are looking for but she's more well-rounded. I like Luke Cage, but they haven't given him much to do on this show and the way they wrote him as a skeptic was eyerolling at times. The scenes with Matt's friends not wanting him to be Daredevil are such a drag now. Let's jump over that hurdle already. Edited August 19, 2017 by _MJ_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Just finished Defenders. Thought it was solid, but this should definitely be end of the Hand for a good long while though saying that I wouldn't mind more Madam Gao (just her). That old lady is still one of my favorites from these shows, and it was kind of awesome getting to see her be a badass. I was surprised at how long it took to get the crew together, but I also kind of liked that seeing as how only two of them actually knew each other. Thought the general team dynamics were good. I really hope we get more Danny/Luke team ups in the second seasons of their shows. What little we got here was nice and felt more natural than I expected. I was impressed with how well they kept up the character arcs for everyone, support characters included. The action scenes were generally solid with Jones looking way better than he did in his own show and Ritter getting some nice scenes herself. On 8/18/2017 at 9:43 PM, Brian Fowler said: The one thing I really disliked was: Hide contents Luke Cage's prison sentence basically getting the "how much black magic did father have to use" Thor treatment of hand waving away the consequences of his own story so we could get to the team up story. Spoiler Time had passed in the show and Foggy was fighting in court for him during all of it. Did they really hand wave it away or just not bother us with details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Not all that much time, as far as I could tell. Plus, my point is more the way it just kinda undid the ending of Luke Cage, it lowers the stakes. It's not a deal breaker, but I think ending Cage season 1 there was the real mistake, since they knew they wouldn't be able to follow up on it because of this show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 It didn't bother me at all. Luke Cage ended with Fish finding the file that would exonerate Luke, so I just figured they were going to start Defenders with Luke getting out of jail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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