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Your right, I keep forgetting the publicly traded part. That and the SJW's are more powerful than they were even in 2007. I wonder how WWE would try to work around a public suspension. . . .

Holy shit, people taking issue with *murder* being referred to as SJWs is a new low.

Since the low before this was something I said, I'm sure, glad to hear I've been dethroned.

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Can somebody explain to me what exactly people are wanting Vince to be charged for? Assuming he didn't straight bribe someone, or at least that they can't prove he did so, I don't see anything illegal he did? He told Snuka to keep his mouth shut, and then he laid out Snuka's story? How is that different from what any lawyer would do? As for lying, he could just say he had no knowledge beside what Snuka told him.

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I'm amused at the outrage for this. This story has been well known in the wrestling world forever, and now that the case is re-opened, NOW you want to call him a piece of shit and damn him to hell??? You people...

 

The literal only person to call for his head in this thread is the same guy that uses the term "SJW," so maybe you just mean "you person."

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I'm amused at the outrage for this. This story has been well known in the *entertainment* world forever, and now that the case is re-opened, NOW you want to call him a piece of shit and damn him to hell??? You people...

I changed one word, and now it's a comment about Bill Cosby.

MAGIC!

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I'm amused at the outrage for this. This story has been well known in the wrestling world forever, and now that the case is re-opened, NOW you want to call him a piece of shit and damn him to hell??? You people...

 

You realize most of the comments are not about outrage for Snuka doing this but what are the implications going forward if he is found guilty and if anyone else will go down with him based on urban legends related to the murder. Also how many people really defended Snuka as a good guy prior to being charged?

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If anything I'm surprised a lot of people still found Snuka to be a good guy before this blew up.  Would have figured when it became an urban legend people would have pretty much ignored any good he did and wonder why nobody charged him before.  If somebody is tied a murder story at all, even if it was swept under the rug, they're a piece of shit.  It's easy for me say since I didn't grow up liking him.  But is there anybody who was a Snuka fan who is hurt about all this?  Kind of find that hard to believe.  It is startling they just recently decided to re-open the case since it's so long ago.

 

And Buy Me a Burrito, you're right in what's been discussed in the thread.  Don't blame you for ignoring this now, but FWIW it appears her family will finally get closure on this.  Way too long to get justice on what appears to be a clear cut case, but it'll come.

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From a historical wrestling perspective, I don't think people quite understand just how thoroughly this changed things when it happened. I think there's a very decent chance that we never have the sort of Hulkamania run we had if this didn't happen. Snuka was drawing amazingly after his babyface turn. 

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Ugh. . . . I am calling him a piece of shit, lest i be mis interpreted as a supporter or someone on the fence. Haven't followed the case at all up to this point, and though I have heard about it, it fell into the nether regions of "sleaze thread" type rumors. Not a patriculary huge fan of Snuka to begin with, and am not one now. Am I surprised that there is fruit to the allegations? Not really, I've read too many history books to really be shocked anymore at goings on behind the scenes, and there was some smoke there.

 

As for the SJW labeling. I was calling no one here that name, nor referring to anyone else who would have been offended by a brutal murder. But, lets face it, considering the amount of death that has occurred in wrestling, for Vince to face consequences for actions that may or may not have taken place during a police interview thirty plus years ago it going to take a lot more than just disgruntled fans to light that fire.  It would take an internet firestorm caused by people usually labeled "SJW" or other terms. Again I was lazy invoking the term, and if I offended anyone I apologize. 

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From a historical wrestling perspective, I don't think people quite understand just how thoroughly this changed things when it happened. I think there's a very decent chance that we never have the sort of Hulkamania run we had if this didn't happen. Snuka was drawing amazingly after his babyface turn. 

Which has me curious as to what happened after the rumors came out.  Did people know?  Did he get blackballed anywhere?  Did fans know and ditch him in a hurry?  I know he's wrestled long after the incident, even in WWF/E for a time or two.  But I wonder just how widespread this was known at that time.

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To be honest, I had never heard about the Argentino incident until I read about it in, of all places, Penthouse.

 

The magazine did a very strong expose on the Snuka case around 1990 or so, focusing how the case went cold and why.  I recall some high school classmates passing around said magazine during a class trip.  I may have been the first high school student in recorded history to read a Penthouse solely for an article :)

 

Snuka was still being booked strong by the WWF up until the first WM.  I remember there being talk on the playground why Snuka didn't have a match on that card, given he was arguably one of the top 5 babyfaces in the company at the time.   I believe Snuka later admitted to having a heavy cocaine addiction at the time, which led to Vince punishing him by first demoting him to "outside enforcer" for the WM I main event, then firing him.  And he was let go shortly before "Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling" premiered, where he was a main character (though he did not voice the cartoon), which made the timing even more strange

 

When he came back to the WWF in 1989, I watched WM V at a closed-circuit location in New Jersey.  When Howard Finkel introduced Snuka prior to the Bravo-Garvin match, the crowd at the building I was at (William Paterson University) went nuts.  Snuka's arrival got one of the loudest reactions that night.  I doubt anyone knew or cared about the Argentino case that night.

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And he was let go shortly before "Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling" premiered, where he was a main character (though he did not voice the cartoon), which made the timing even more strange

 

 

The man who provided the voice of Jimmy Snuka had a son who went on to become WCW World Heavyweight Champion.  (Lewis Arquette - David Arquette)

 

I was about 9-10 years old at the time the death happened and I vaguely recall hearing about it on the news.  Sad to say, I didn't really care too much at the time.  I think the general consensus was that he wasn't charged, she was probably on drugs, and that was it.  I'm not saying that was right, but that seems to be what I remember talking about with friends or hearing the adults say. 

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Social:

 

adjective
1.
pertaining to, devoted to, or characterized by friendly companionship or relations:
a social club.
2.
seeking or enjoying the companionship of others; friendly; sociable;gregarious.
3.
of, pertaining to, connected with, or suited to polite or fashionable society:
 
 
Justice:
 
noun
1.
the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moralrightness:
to uphold the justice of a cause.
2.
rightfulness or lawfulness, as of a claim or title; justness of ground orreason:
to complain with justice.
3.
the moral principle determining just conduct.
 
Warrior:
 
noun
1.
a person engaged or experienced in warfare; soldier.
2.
a person who shows or has shown great vigor, courage, or aggressiveness, as in politics or athletics.
 

For a phrase that is supposed to be an insult, it's really not that insulting, is it? To accuse someone of being willing to fight vigorously for a society that has more fairness than it currently does, and that's a bad thing? If you stand opposed to Social Justice Warriors, aren't you basically claiming that society would be better if there was less justice, and fewer people willing to fight for that justice?

 

I can't help feeling that the opposite of a Social Justice Warrior is an Antisocial Injustice Coward. Is that the position these people who throw out SJW* like being one is the most shameful thing in the world are taking?

 

* The first time I saw that acronym, I thought Sex and the City ended ages ago, there's no point still hating it now. But then I remembered her last name was Parker, not Walker.

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To be honest, I had never heard about the Argentino incident until I read about it in, of all places, Penthouse.

Howard Stern was on the cover, I remember that issue very well. A lot my pre-teens ideals were changed by that issue...

Post-to-username synergy is a thing. A sick, sordid thing...

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For a phrase that is supposed to be an insult, it's really not that insulting, is it? To accuse someone of being willing to fight vigorously for a society that has more fairness than it currently does, and that's a bad thing? If you stand opposed to Social Justice Warriors, aren't you basically claiming that society would be better if there was less justice, and fewer people willing to fight for that justice?

 

I can't help feeling that the opposite of a Social Justice Warrior is an Antisocial Injustice Coward. Is that the position these people who throw out SJW* like being one is the most shameful thing in the world are taking?

If you just stick with dictionary definitions "National Socialism" doesn't sound too bad. Social Justice Warriors tend to be whiny, reactionary bullies who spend their free time looking for excuses to lord over the less-enlightened from their comfortable perch on a high-horse. They're especially obsessed with various manifestations of thoughtcrime - Donald Sterling and Hulk Hogan's private conversations demanded swift retribution (their privacy a lesser consideration - any good inquisitor knows the moral threat of heresy demands rooting out by any means necessary).

I much prefer the S1Ws to the SJWs. At least the S1Ws can get jiggy.

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Wow another "validity of SJW" argument...

 

Just look at it this way...

 

Social Justice Warriors : Liberals : : Tea Party : Conservatives

 

The more you realize that the real problem in this country isn't one side or the other but the push towards extremism and absolutism from both sides, the wiser you are. Putting conviction over civility, acting as though even respecting opposing viewpoints (and God forbid compromising with them) is a betrayal of those convictions, trivializing or demonizing opposing viewpoints because it's easier to hold onto your own if you just assume anyone who disagrees with you is evil or stupid, that's what's tearing everything apart...

 

Dr.King didn't march on Washington to say, "Fuck you you redneck cracker motherfuckers, now excuse me while I make snide, sarcastic putdowns about you for the next half hour or so..." He wanted to educate people. SJW's don't want to educate. They want to punish, mock, and condescend. 

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As for the SJW labeling. I was calling no one here that name, nor referring to anyone else who would have been offended by a brutal murder. But, lets face it, considering the amount of death that has occurred in wrestling, for Vince to face consequences for actions that may or may not have taken place during a police interview thirty plus years ago it going to take a lot more than just disgruntled fans to light that fire. It would take an internet firestorm caused by people usually labeled "SJW" or other terms. Again I was lazy invoking the term, and if I offended anyone I apologize.

No one took issue because you were personally attacking them or because you were lazy. The term "SJW" itself is a term of derision that mocks people that care about issues like racism and sexism. The term itself is bullshit. It's nothing like the damn Tea Party - they named themselves.

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Y'all seem to define and apply the term differently than those who embrace it. Also: replace "SJWs" with "liberals" and your posts read a LOT like Ann Coulter's writing. Just sayin', that's generally not a good comparison.

 

I don't think everyone has to abide by the self-definitions of insular groups.  If I draw equivalence between something an SJW says and something Robert Mugabe says, do I get a prize?

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