clintthecrippler Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I legitimately don't know whether I think a retcon that Riddick and Dominic are actually the same person would be the greatest thing ever or the worst thing ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just a reminder - there is a Fast & Furious thread around here somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I watched 12 Rounds 3: Lockdown with Dean Ambrose and it's. . . not bad. Nothing special, but not a waste of 90 minutes. Ambrose does decently in his role. The ending is just there, but the action scenes were solid and the movie is grittier than I had anticipated. The heel had good heat throughout and you'll want to see him get his. With a better script and direction, Ambrose would make for a pretty good action film star, sort of a junior Bruce Willis in the Die Hard mold. It suffers from a flimsy plot and precious few surprises, but Ambrose and Roger Cross carry it to a solid outing. Kind of disappointed Ambrose didn't do a Dirty Deeds on anyone. WWE Studios' movies are the type of thing my dad (when he was alive) loved. Seriously: He adored The Condemned. That is honestly the best compliment I can give them. Grim, middle-aged guys who like to see people getting shot for no reason and explosions for no reason: That's the audience WWE are catering to here. It's not so bad. You won't make hundreds of millions of dollars; but you'll probably make an OKish profit from all these Movies4Men channels and DTV audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Ape Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 WWE Studios' movies are the type of thing my dad (when he was alive) loved. Seriously: He adored The Condemned. That is honestly the best compliment I can give them. Grim, middle-aged guys who like to see people getting shot for no reason and explosions for no reason: That's the audience WWE are catering to here. It's not so bad. You won't make hundreds of millions of dollars; but you'll probably make an OKish profit from all these Movies4Men channels and DTV audience. I listened to a podcast last night that went into how apparently the new thing is ridiculously small-budget movies being churned out ad nauseum by the same production company and some of them being flops and some of them being hits with a super-high return on investment. Oculus ran on this philosophy because one of the guys at the helm was Jason Blum (the guy who produced Paranormal Activity, which is the most successful movie of all-time as far as ROI goes), and it ended up making around $44M at the box office versus a $5M budget. The bonus here is with so many cheap movies being cranked out like that, if it flops, it's no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 WWE Studios' movies are the type of thing my dad (when he was alive) loved. Seriously: He adored The Condemned. That is honestly the best compliment I can give them. Grim, middle-aged guys who like to see people getting shot for no reason and explosions for no reason: That's the audience WWE are catering to here. It's not so bad. You won't make hundreds of millions of dollars; but you'll probably make an OKish profit from all these Movies4Men channels and DTV audience. I listened to a podcast last night that went into how apparently the new thing is ridiculously small-budget movies being churned out ad nauseum by the same production company and some of them being flops and some of them being hits with a super-high return on investment. Oculus ran on this philosophy because one of the guys at the helm was Jason Blum (the guy who produced Paranormal Activity, which is the most successful movie of all-time as far as ROI goes), and it ended up making around $44M at the box office versus a $5M budget. The bonus here is with so many cheap movies being cranked out like that, if it flops, it's no big deal. So the Cannon Studios business model is becoming a thing now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Ape Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 One might say the business model has been perfected. The Visit was a Blumhouse production, and that's already made over 30 mil versus a $5M budget, and people are calling it Shyamalan's best in a long while (though that's not really saying much). Interesting what happens when a director used to big blockbusters needs to scrimp and watch bidget resources carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 You know the movie industry is fucked when they go 'man, the business model of major label record companies in the 90s is a clear improvement on what we were doing'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I'm kind of in favor of this if it also involves a certain amount of creative freedom with this buckshot of small investments so every now and then a Savage Steve Holland or someone gets to make something offbeat and fun of simple and human. You know the movie industry is fucked when they go 'man, the business model of major label record companies in the 90s is a clear improvement on what we were doing'. I thought the recording industry model was to give a bunch of kids a huge advance and then trick them into spending it all on your producers and equipment so they end up with a four albums left on their deal and owing you hundreds of thousands dollars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 The business model of the recording industry has always been and always will be a slow, extended period of highway robbery/pimping. In the film industry they actually seem worried about whether they will succeed or fail, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 At least in the movie industry, the "labels" haven't somehow convinced all the artists to pay all costs and take all financial risks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 And then the bloodthirsty apes attack? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 WWE Studios' movies are the type of thing my dad (when he was alive) loved. Seriously: He adored The Condemned. That is honestly the best compliment I can give them. Grim, middle-aged guys who like to see people getting shot for no reason and explosions for no reason: That's the audience WWE are catering to here. It's not so bad. You won't make hundreds of millions of dollars; but you'll probably make an OKish profit from all these Movies4Men channels and DTV audience. They need to target the Steven Seagal "Direct to DVD" market. My mother buys all that shit out of the bargain bin and would totally watch Under Seige starring Roman Reigns or something. They keep trying to look like a legitimate movie studio with the limited theater releases, but we clearly understand it's just cover for VOD/direct to DVD release. There's no shame in creating product strictly for that market. Hell, some of those movies are actually pretty good. Set a budget, hiring a young director looking to pad their resume, and write a solid script. The money practically makes itself. It turns out that the mastermind is Helen Mirren playing her character from RED - Victoria - who is revealed as the mother of Owen and Deckard Shaw! This then leads to the FnF crew teaming with/fighting the RED crew to stop those evil Brits from taking over the world... Being that the person has expressed interest in FnF, your plot makes sense. Wait, you're not a screenwriter for the franchise, are you? Dishing out the good stuff for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Doesn't even have to be a young director. Joel Schumacher made "Blood Creek" and it wasn't god-awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Ape Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I'm kind of in favor of this if it also involves a certain amount of creative freedom with this buckshot of small investments so every now and then a Savage Steve Holland or someone gets to make something offbeat and fun of simple and human. That's often bandied out as the biggest perk of this model. The budgets for movies like this are so low that it's not worth sticking your head in. Directors under Blumhouse get almost complete creative control as long as they turn the completed work in on time and on budget. Rob Cohen, who directed the first The Fast and the Furious, became the toast of Hollywood, and became toxic just as quickly after Stealth bombed, got in on the Blum deal running The Boy Next Door. Amusingly enough, after the $4M budget ran out and Jason Blum rejected Cohen's request for more dough (at Blumhouse, budgets are hard and fast, no exceptions), he went behind Blum's back and got $300,000 from Universal to reshoot scenes and make better special effects. It ended up raking in over $50M. (Also worth mentioning: at Blumhouse, the actors and directors are given union scale, with incentives based on the movie's profits. So when you get someone like Jennifer Lopez on board, you can almost guarantee she'll be on the talk show beat promoting the hell out of it, since if the movie makes more money, SHE makes more money.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 If WWE Films knows what's up they'll start making Abbott and Costello-style New Day movies. The New Day Meets Jacob Goodnight is right there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 They need to target the Steven Seagal "Direct to DVD" market. My mother buys all that shit out of the bargain bin and would totally watch Under Seige starring Roman Reigns or something. Why not Ryback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 If WWE Films knows what's up they'll start making Abbott and Costello-style New Day movies. The New Day Meets Jacob Goodnight is right there. Why isn't this being filmed right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 If nothing else, when they do the SCOOBY DOO (animated?) reboot, there should be a scene when the van breaks down and some shadows loom over the gang until the reveal: "WWE Sports Entertainments Supsterstars The New Day? What are you doing here?" "We were out here in the swamp looking for truffles, Big E. has a big truffles thing." "Mmmmmm..mmmmmmm" "Hoooooonk...." "That's Xavier agreeing. He only speaks in trombone! Anyway, you guys look like you could use some help." "Well, we are stuck here and we're supposed to be hunting a ghost." "A g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-ghost?" "HOOOOOOOONK HOOOOOOOONK" [Xavier and Big E. hold each other and tremble] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 They need to target the Steven Seagal "Direct to DVD" market. My mother buys all that shit out of the bargain bin and would totally watch Under Seige starring Roman Reigns or something. Why not Ryback? He's busy filming the Universal Soldier reboot with Rob Van Dam Googling now. You'd best not be teasing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Black Mass was pretty good, maybe not as gritty as I wanted (for a film with a guy strangling the shit out of people, still), but good. Johnny Depp plays Dracula for apparently the second time in the last five years and has a very good Renfield to second him. In retrospect I could have waited for the DVD but it saved my ass from being drowned in a storm tonight so I can't complain. Also has closing credits identical to Straight Outta Compton, which was weird considering that was the last film I saw in the exact same theater. EDIT: Oh, and there are scenes I wanted to cackle at but didn't want to come off like a total madman in the room. There was at least one that everyone else got with me on, but I resisted otherwise. My sense of humor isn't that of most others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Black Mass was pretty good, maybe not as gritty as I wanted (for a film with a guy strangling the shit out of people, still), but good. Johnny Depp plays Dracula for apparently the second time in the last five years and has a very good Renfield to second him. In retrospect I could have waited for the DVD but it saved my ass from being drowned in a storm tonight so I can't complain. Also has closing credits identical to Straight Outta Compton, which was weird considering that was the last film I saw in the exact same theater. EDIT: Oh, and there are scenes I wanted to cackle at but didn't want to come off like a total madman in the room. There was at least one that everyone else got with me on, but I resisted otherwise. My sense of humor isn't that of most others. I really didn't like Black Mass, The Departed did the Whitey Bulger story much better sorta like how Tombstone did the Wyatt Earp story better than "Wyatt Earp." There was some bad accents too, not Rob Morrow in Quiz Show bad but still pretty bad. I have no idea what Cumberbatch and Edgerton were going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Honestly, there are probably half a dozen gangster films better than Black Mass that have came out in the last couple years: The Town, The Departed, The Drop (I'm sensing a theme here...) but I still appreciated the acting. EDIT: God's Pocket needs to be mentioned here. It's like the film that should never have been but is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 The Departed is definitely not from the last couple of years... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Is anyone else enough of a tool to get teary-eyed watching WALKING WITH DINOSAURS 3D on HBO Family? No? Never mind, I was just checking for a total tool I know. I'll let him know he's a femmy baby as soon as I find a box of tissues I need for a totally unrelated eye-allergy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Yeah, watching 12 Rounds 3. The amount of exposition in this film is hilarious. *good cop Ambrose listens to super secret flashdrive he has just stumbled across* Shady criminal: "Look, remember our deal?" Evil Cop: Our deal? Shady criminal: I supply the narcotics and you distribute them while hiding behind your facade as a hero cop Evil Cop *remembers deal*: Oh, right. Because WE ARE BAD. *good cop Ambrose looks shocked but is also probably grateful they revealed the truth so clearly within like 5 seconds of turning it on* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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